2007/08 Soccer Thread - Euro Fever!

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I dunno Portugal had that same 'speed' and it didn't work out so well. Problem is all the teams left have very weak CB's. I just cant see them stopping Kloser or Ballack in the air. The only chance they have on set pieces is that their goalies are 1000000000x better then Ricardo and might actually come out and grab a cross or at least punch Ballacks face off before they let him take a easy header.

Russia is interesting also as Arshavin (love him and love him more that Wenger is after him) is speed all over the place. If you look at Portugal and Spain their quickness was more down the wings and with the strikers for Spain. Their central midfielder's Deco/Xavi/Cesc don't exactly outpace anyone just outwit them. Arshavin seems to be outwitting defenders while running right at them hard with that short guy dribbling style Messi has.

Spain have a chance but like Portugal its only a punchers chance. If they land the first blow otherwise they fold under the pressure like they usually do and the Germans do what they always do and win a 4th Euro. History is just sometimes too strong.

jowner wrote:

I dunno Portugal had that same 'speed' and it didn't work out so well. Problem is all the teams left have very weak CB's.

I can't agree. To some extent Spain plays very alike Portugal, but I made very lengthy post above why it sucks in Portugal's case and I'm not really sure that Spain will try to make the same mistakes (but as for now yesterday game have proven me wrong).
As for CBs: it isn't that bad, Ignashievic is really good stopper, same thing with Puyol. But I think that having good full backs will be more decisive, because that's the part where Portugal really failed. Turkey has Altintop, Russia has the best wing back duo of Anyukov and Zhirkov and Spain has very talented but somewhat reckless Ramos and Capedevilla. Add to that presence of Senna in Spain and Semak in Russia and I think that they might close attacking channels far better than Portugal did.

In open play sure but what I was getting at is the classical dead ball for Germany's attack. Not the open play and passing channels. Just push it deep win a corner whip one in for Kloser + Ballack and see how well the other team deals with that. Like I said the teams left do have the advantage of way better keepers compared to Portugal as I think they will at least mix up their defense and have the keeper charge out and grab some balls something Ricardo couldn't do. Pretty easy to expose a team when you know the goalie has 0 confidence to come out and challenge for a cross.

Yesterday against a very good Italian defense the Spanish looked completely toothless on corners. To my surprise even on one I noticed that Puyol and Marchena didn't even get into the box or even outside it. They honestly were better off sometimes taking the corner back to their defense as a box full of Italians wasn't going to lead to any scoring chance.

Might sound strange to put the games all on set pieces but I dunno I think if you break the teams down in all other positions, players and styles they do a pretty good job of canceling each other out and this is the only significant advantage one team has over any/all of the teams left. They had 3 corners and not many more then 2 freekicks into the box that game and scored on 2 of them. Just too damn efficient.

edit: And thats just going forward. Defensively they look ironclad on set pieces with two towers and a crazy goalie who probably comes out for too many crosses the opposite of Ricardo.

That was officially, the craziest weekend of soccer, I have ever seen in my life. Fraking Turkey. Wow, simply wow.

jowner wrote:

Can't see anyone beating the Germans now though. They are efficient, they are clutch, they have the best set piece team left in the tournament by a mile. Schweinstieger to swing them in, Ballack and Kloser to meet them in the air.

I think Spain can take Germany, but the way this tourney is going, the final will probably end up being Turkey v Russia.

Amazing game that I didn't exactly get to watch. Up here in Canada they kept telling us the loss of feed was worldwide. 1 time for a short period ok whatever but 3 times all in the second half was just damn painful.

Up here in Canada they kept telling us the loss of feed was worldwide.

It was. Power outage in the Vienna station, which was serving most networks. (UEFA requirement.)

Yeap just caught the ESPN article on it.

But it apparently wasn't worldwide as Swiss and kinda funny Al-Jeezera coverage was never interrupted. Al-Jeezera > ESPN.

THANK YOU GERMANY.

Not soley because I was rooting for you (I was) but because I wanted Turkey to lose SO BAD.

Why?

Because there are a sh*tload of rich douchenozzle Turkish study abroad students at the local college. And they're some of the biggest assholes i've ever met. So I dearly, dearly was hoping Turkey would lose.

Basically, I owe Spunior a huge hug.

Prederick wrote:

THANK YOU GERMANY.

Not soley because I was rooting for you (I was) but because I wanted Turkey to lose SO BAD.

Why?

Because there are a sh*tload of rich douchenozzle Turkish study abroad students at the local college. And they're some of the biggest assholes i've ever met. So I dearly, dearly was hoping Turkey would lose.

Basically, I owe Spunior a huge hug.

That's exactly the way I've felt... about Germans.
Damn.

Well, that wasn't the most exciting game, but at least it didn't go to overtime. And Spain did deserve the win.

Oh my, I love being right ;]

It was a great tournament, and I'm sad to see it end, but it was kind of nice to see the Spaniards finally get some silverware.

Happy to see Spain pull it off. The 10th generation "Hey I'm German" fans were starting to come out of the woodwork over here in Canada so its nice to see them firmly fallen off the bandwagon for 2 more years.

Not the best final game but two teams came and played attacking positive football (for the most part when the Germans weren't trying to kick them or influence the Ref) unlike 2006 which wrapped up with one of greatest recent players being goaded into the saddest way to end a career. The PK's and Italy winning didn't help either.

Within the game it was surprising that Spain didn't bottle it and the Germans did. Lahm got skinned. Schweinsteiger's crosses were horrible. The purely accidental cut Ballack got sent him on some rampage of kicking people and arguing with the ref. By the end you could really tell Spain was keeping their cool and Germany was more interested in turning it into a riot.

maybe the best tournament I've seen start to finish. Would be nice if England misses 2012 also but they apparently want to bump the teams to 24. Don't like that idea as I really don't think the actual tournament would be better to watch. 24 would dilute the field and extend the length.

Anyways on to the transfer season!!!

Ronaldinho is off to Milan, Hleb is off to Barcelona.
I guess we'll need 2008/2009 thread, but I don't know whether Prederick wants to start it.

UCRC wrote:

Ronaldinho is off to Milan, Hleb is off to Barcelona.
I guess we'll need 2008/2009 thread, but I don't know whether Prederick wants to start it.

Yes, yes I will.

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