2007/08 Soccer Thread - Euro Fever!

Euro 2008. My heart hopes for Croatia, or the Czechs. Maybe even Romania.

My head says put your money on Germany or Italy. Look for Spain to make a dramatic run to the Semis.

Prederick wrote:

Euro 2008. My heart hopes for Croatia, or the Czechs.

Czechs - largely disappointing. I feel sorry for Switzerland and Frei, I wonder how they couldn't have made so many chances pay. With Barnetta, Behrami and Fernandes their squad could pull off some really nice moves, but with Frei gone, they'll have hard time trying to score anything.
As for Portugal-Turkey game... Who's this Kazim Kazim guy? He looked like second Ronaldo to me.

I love modern footy. A Polish born man playing for Germany beats Poland today. 2-0 to Deutschland.

1-0 Croatia over Austria. Meh. Modric scores from the spot.

In other news, Drogba may be headed for AC Milan, while Barcelona have apparently nabbed the insanely talented Daniel Alves.

Also, did anyone see Joao Moutinho's setup for Raul Meireles's goal yesterday for Portugal? 'Twas a thing of beauty, take it one touch, spin 360 degrees before passing to the open man for the goal. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what the U.S. MNT is desperately missing. A players who can take the game and in one moment, change it.

I'm in full Euro fever and loving it. Cant wait for tomorrows games that I actually want to go to sleep so tomorrow comes sooner

Your right Mountinho was great that game and if he keeps this up and Portugal go deep he wont be at Sporting next year. Always great to see young players use tournaments like this to propel their careers. Not the best start for Portugal style wise as its pretty clear theres still a problematic hole at striker. Scolari's tactics are killing me also. Hes insists on using Ronaldo as a lone striker late in games and its painfully obvious the guy is lost at the position. He stands way deep with his back to goal trying to figure out when hes supposed to make runs. The second goal only came because they pretty much abandoned the striker role and he was on the wings again to spark the counter. I rather they go 6 midfield and do counter attacking football protecting a lead then Ronaldo as a striker.

If they build on each game I think they honestly have a real shot at winning the tournament. The back 4 is pretty damn solid and once they have a lead they have the midfield to tear a team apart on the counter. Just gotta figure out the getting the lead part with an average striker as I don't think Pepe has a crazy run from defense in him each game.

Wow. Spain. Jesus.

Also, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, when he wants to (which isn't often enough) is one hell of a player.

Prederick wrote:

Wow. Spain. Jesus.

Also, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, when he wants to (which isn't often enough) is one hell of a player.

Yeah, for once they looked... as good as their roster advertised. A little bleh on the back line at times, but through the midfield and up front where there strengths certainly lie, they just dazzled.

I need to go buy a home defibrilator kit after Ricardo's performance yesterday. Thanks to him, that 3-1 final score could have easily gone the Czech's way.

VicD714 wrote:

I need to go buy a home defibrilator kit after Ricardo's performance yesterday. Thanks to him, that 3-1 final score could have easily gone the Czech's way.

Yea hes going to be a problem going forward in the tournament especially since Portugal will have to meet a combination of Croatia and Germany to get to the final most likely.

Funny part is I was checking his bio today and hes listed as 6feet which makes no sense to me because he plays the position like hes 5'5. He must have the shortest arms and no leaping ability if hes 6feet.

This might be the best soccer I've ever seen hands down. Since Wednesday the Portugal game, the Turks last minute goal, the Croats doing it over the Germans, Romania taking it to Italy, the Dutch with 4 great goals that just kept getting better and right now Spain and Sweden are duking it out.

Wow Europe really doesn't miss England and wont miss France and Italy in the later rounds (hopefully Romania wins :D).

I was out for whole week, but fortunately, I haven't missed Holland - France. Great, great game, what else could I say? Also, Romania and Italy produced really entertaining display, especially when you think about how their first games went.

btw: How do you feel about referees this year? We've seen some really bad decisions out there, and few results were definitely affected by this. (Poland have drew with Austria after 93th minute penalty scored by hosts ;] If you haven't seen what penalty was given for, search it in youtube, it was really ridiculous)

12:00 PM - Prederick goes to work.

2:55 PM - Prederick grouses that he's missing the games.

6:30 PM - Prederick goes on break. Briefly considers checking out who won, but since he doesn't care that much, opts against.

8:55 PM - Prederick returns home. Checks scores on Soccernet.

9:25 PM - Prederick finishes cursing that he's worked through three of the tournament's best games so far.

If you haven't recorded it, most of games are out there in torrents, with pretty decent transfer. I'm not sure that it's legal to download these, but I'm not sure why would anybody have to feel bad about it.

If you havent seen it yet, you really owe it to yourself to check out Turkey vs. Czech Republic. At the very least the final ~15mins. Simply unbelievable.

I can't check atm (I'm taping todays games and dont want to accidentally see any scores), but I think the EURO '08 site, or the soccernet site have video streams of all the games.

Sopcast has them all, and while it's legally gray, it still makes no difference how you watch it because it's for free anyways.

btw: Poland is out, last in group. We were so close, even though we played so poor. And every time it came down to bad refereeing and streaks of luck with stupid flops and unfortutnate misses. It doesn't even bother me, but I'm really worried that everyone in here judges the team by results.

Well, to be honest, I don't think anyone was expecting that much from Poland. Croatia and Germany were expected to go through from the first moment, but Kudos to Poland for putting up a good fight.

Prederick wrote:

Wow. Spain. Jesus.

Also, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, when he wants to (which isn't often enough) is one hell of a player.

I was in Sweden watching the Sweden - Spain game in the middle of Stockholm city (down by the royal castle) on a huge screen. Yellow shirts *everywhere*. Freakin awesome. Good beer, good friends. Had to buy a Zlatan jersey for my 16-month old daughter. She will be wearing it on Wednesday when we play Russia. I need to somehow figure out a way to not work when the game is on.

Go Sweden! We will beat them Russians like it's the year 1700!

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That was the worst soccer I've ever seen the Swedish national team play.

I'd curse, but it feels more appropriate to sigh.

Condolences. The Russians were just electric especially with Arvashin back. Guy was unlucky to miss the 2 first games because if he played like that he would be a lock for a move to a huge club on big money. Then again Zenit with the oil money connections might reject and move and just pay him anyways.

not related to soccer but with the kind of money building up in Russia with oligarchs who have money to blow the talent level is rising over there and they are even getting into the NHL's hair by being able to offer hockey players good money to play in Russia. How whacky would it be a decade down the line if the Russian Hockey league is directly competing with the NHL for talent because the NHL cant get over that hump as a serious sport in the U.S with a serious T.V deal where the real money is at. ./tangent

My favorite part about the game was walking into a sports bar with a Swedish jersey, looking around for the game, only to find out that it wasn't on. When I asked if they could turn the game on, I got a blank stare and the question "What game?".

Americans. Grr.

jowner wrote:

Condolences. The Russians were just electric especially with Arvashin back. Guy was unlucky to miss the 2 first games because if he played like that he would be a lock for a move to a huge club on big money. Then again Zenit with the oil money connections might reject and move and just pay him anyways.

They pay him around 3mil per year just to keep him in there and he has his own limo to drive for weekend games. I wouldn't see a reason to move if I were him

Meh. Ricardo is awful. It hurts but then again my expectations were Germany at the semis would be about right. The Germans were like surgeons today exposing the weaknesses. 2010 is not that far off I guess.

UCRC wrote:
jowner wrote:

Condolences. The Russians were just electric especially with Arvashin back. Guy was unlucky to miss the 2 first games because if he played like that he would be a lock for a move to a huge club on big money. Then again Zenit with the oil money connections might reject and move and just pay him anyways.

They pay him around 3mil per year just to keep him in there and he has his own limo to drive for weekend games. I wouldn't see a reason to move if I were him ;)

only a limo? Michael Owen supposedly gets a helicopter ride for training and hes at lowly but rich Newcastle.

3mil Euros? Kaka supposedly makes 150k Pounds a week before bonuses which puts him at 7.8million pounds a year. Hes obviously not Kaka but if he has a good agent he could really extort Zenit this summer as I think some clubs should be calling as the guy is just great.

Another big problem was Germany did a really good job clogging up the passing lanes. At times Portugal didn't know what they wanted to do.

I made the same observation, but I think that attacking side is the one to blame. They kept banging on that wall just as Poland did in first game versus Germany. At first we were surprised that they are so willing to defend and lose initiative but as it turned out, we just had no idea what to do with possession we had. The same thing have happened yesterday, Portugal was mixing short unproductive passes with long, cross balls to wingers which rarely reached target. What's good idea when you're playing against Turks, might not be as good against one of the best organised teams on EURO.
Other than distribution they completely lacked concept in closing minutes. With the kind of possession they had you'd expect them to play fast flicking balls into the box, trying low crosses and through balls. This is probably the part where Simao and Ronaldo failed miserably, as they were constantly deciding to take the most unproductive positions.
The situation that got me laughing was just before the end when Bosingwa had a pretty clear position on the wing, as a result of some intelligent passing, he had four (or so) players in the box, and then, hey, he decides to blast the ball at the Lehmann's goal, putting it ten meters wide.

The only thing I can truly sit here and complain about was the Ballack goal. That was total BS. That call should have absolutely been called back. Then again I have seen plenty worse not get called, so I shouldn't be that surprised by it. Still sucks though. Of course it's all irrelavent if the defense didn't go to sleep for the two previous goals.

After Poland - Austria nothing surprises me. And still, I'm not really convinced that Portugal deserved a draw.

Portugal v Germany: Well, that sucked.

I dont know about the Germans necessarily exposing the Portuguese weaknesses, but they certainly outmuscled, and at times just plain man-handled the Portuguese. And whats worse, for the most part they did it all legally. The Germans, were just too big and strong, for the Portuguese to try standing with the ball, and not expect the Germans to knock them right off of it. As an example, Ronaldo is above average height (6'3" I believe) for a Portuguese, and at one point there was a German defender on him that stood a full head taller.

Another big problem was Germany did a really good job clogging up the passing lanes. At times Portugal didn't know what they wanted to do.

The only thing I can truly sit here and complain about was the Ballack goal. That was total BS. That goal should have absolutely been called back. Then again I have seen plenty worse not get called, so I shouldn't be that surprised by it. Still sucks though. Of course it's all irrelavent if the defense didn't go to sleep for the two previous goals.

Oh, and I am still cursing Moutinho, for missing the open goal off that corner kick. Use your knee or your head pal, not both.

I now refuse to bet against the Turks. Anything is possible at this point.

Someone's going to have to tell me how NED-RUS ends. I have to go to work.

RUS won in OT. Crazy. Russia. Beat. Holland. WTF?

magnus wrote:

RUS won in OT. Crazy. Russia. Beat. Holland. WTF?

I was on a party yesterday and one particularly drunk fellow kept saying every fifteen seconds "I don't f-n believe it. Russia". And he kept saying exactly the same thing over and over until he fell asleep.
But hey, I don't have problem with Netherlands going down, at least they've lost to a better side which simply played nicer football.

Italy is out!!!!! I can sleep easy tonight.

I think I might of punched the first Italian I saw if the final was Germany Italy with a shootout Italy win.

Can't see anyone beating the Germans now though. They are efficient, they are clutch, they have the best set piece team left in the tournament by a mile. Schweinstieger to swing them in, Ballack and Kloser to meet them in the air.

But they give possession out easily, as they like to play organised defence. With Russia/Spain playing clever pressing and using their fast players, they could easily blast them out.