Car lovers?

Evo wrote:

I thought the original WRX was unique and fairly aggressively designed for its era. The bug eye headlights were a polarizing feature, but I liked them. The STI hatch from a generation or two back wasn't bad to look at, either. It looked like its purpose was to slide around corners. This one looks more at home in a grocery store parking lot.

So you're saying Subaru is finally recognizing their core market?

WipEout wrote:
Evo wrote:

I thought the original WRX was unique and fairly aggressively designed for its era. The bug eye headlights were a polarizing feature, but I liked them. The STI hatch from a generation or two back wasn't bad to look at, either. It looked like its purpose was to slide around corners. This one looks more at home in a grocery store parking lot.

So you're saying Subaru is finally recognizing their core market?

More or less? People do look to Subaru's for dependability and that extra bit of peace of mind with AWD, despite most people having no clue how to take advantage of it.

The problem being is the WRX should be more at home in that parking lot if it were being autocrossed. It was meant to be the crazy kid option.

So much of the bad in the production is in the little things that add up without one noticing it, like the fog light, the door panels, the change in elevation along the front bumper was lost, and a few other things in terms of general geometry, some of which has been pointed out here already.

Ahh, the car lovers thread, much better :).

Anyways! New Mustang debuts today. I'm not sure about it. I figured it would be a bit more rounded, but I thought it would be a bit more of a redesign than this. I can understand their reasoning for keeping it so similar, but it's a bit disappointing to me. Though I am certainly happy about the independent rear suspension, finally.

cheeba wrote:

Ahh, the car lovers thread, much better :).

Anyways! New Mustang debuts today. I'm not sure about it. I figured it would be a bit more rounded, but I thought it would be a bit more of a redesign than this. I can understand their reasoning for keeping it so similar, but it's a bit disappointing to me. Though I am certainly happy about the independent rear suspension, finally.

I like it. Still has some of that retro look and it has a nice aggressive profile.

I also like it. They added a nice fastback-style swoop to the rear glass that gives it a nice look.

I think it looks like they took a mustang and said, "How can we make this look more like a Camaro." The roof looks to be really bubble like and the outside is very rounded while the dash is angular. I think I like it but I don't love it. Maybe I'll love it after seeing it in person.

The front-end seems a bit pinched and I can definitely see what you mean by looking like a Camaro, Homer.

eesh I just read up on it (I've been out of the loop for a while now) and even at 300+HP I'm not sure I can get behind a 4 cyl Mustang...

Eh, I don't really get the Camaro comparison; it's more rounded where the Camaro is all sharp angles and lines. If anything, I feel it looks too much like the new Fusion.

For reference:
IMAGE(http://multimedia.detroitnews.com/pix/10/88/d6/30/e9/69/20131204110931_15FordMustang_05_HR.jpg)
I think it's the rear upper quarter panels that I don't like - the flaring out at the C pillar. I gather that because I really like the convertible:
IMAGE(http://multimedia.detroitnews.com/pix/9d/e9/82/2e/b5/1c/20131205110939_tdndc5-6d046kcv5lft9ed685b_original.jpg)

I dig it. It's a much braver push in design while maintaining some cues of its heritage.

Also: Camaro? Is that car even relevant anymore? (not in my book... )

WipEout wrote:

Also: Camaro? Is that car even relevant anymore? (not in my book... )

It outsells the Mustang.

Stupid Bumblebee.... Should've kept him as a Beetle

Relevant or not, the sides remind me of it:

IMAGE(http://multimedia.detroitnews.com/pix/9d/e9/82/2e/b5/1c/20131205110939_tdndc5-6d046kcv5lft9ed685b_original.jpg)

IMAGE(http://srv2.betterparts.org/images/chevrolet-camaro-06.jpg)

I think it looks great.

MannishBoy wrote:
WipEout wrote:

Also: Camaro? Is that car even relevant anymore? (not in my book... )

It outsells the Mustang.

Absolutely true. Also kind of astounding because it's slower across all models, more expensive across the board, and the interior in the newer mustangs is actually better.

It's the rear that, to me, looks Camaro-ish. I like the Mustang convertible a lot. I like both but if I were to buy one I'd buy the convertible mustang. That darn third child puts the brakes on both of them, though, since neither has seating for five.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Relevant or not, the sides remind me of it:

IMAGE(http://multimedia.detroitnews.com/pix/9d/e9/82/2e/b5/1c/20131205110939_tdndc5-6d046kcv5lft9ed685b_original.jpg)

IMAGE(http://srv2.betterparts.org/images/chevrolet-camaro-06.jpg)

Oh, I get the comparison between the two cars' rear quarter panels-- they do look strikingly similar. But had you guys not brought up the Camaro in the first place, I just would never have thought of it. It's just such a bland car in my view-- Chevy trying to cash in on the now-over-saturated retro design club without bringing anything truly new/innovative to the table. I lump it in with the Charger, Challenger, T-Bird, "New Beetle" (not the New New Beetle, so much), the last Mustang's design, and probably others that I can't be bothered to think of right now: They're all just lazy designs for nostalgia's sake. At least the last couple iterations of the Mustang have tried to maintain relevance with their powertrains and competition with Euro coupes like the BMW M series.

All that negativity/cynicism aside, this new one is probably the first Mustang I'd want to buy since the Shelby GT350.

Put me in the "like the new design, but absolutely LOVE the convertible" camp.

I am still enjoying my 2011 Mustang GT a lot, but I think perhaps in a few years, a trade-in for a 5.0 convertible might just be in the cards...

So at the end of January I'll be heading...well, somewhere in the world. I should find out about three weeks beforehand. There's a reasonably good chance that it'll be in Japan somewhere if I have any say in the matter (and I do). I found out yesterday that, should I indeed be sent there, getting my vehicle shipped to Japan is not an option. I'm certainly not going to sell it, as it's my custom-designed roadster. I'm also not going to loan it out to my family, as I'd never get it back in one piece. So it's looking like storage.

Does anyone have any tips on long-term vehicle storage in terms of mechanical preparation? I haven't gone Googling yet, which I plan to do, but some thoughts from the car-folks here would be appreciated.

You don't say how long you're going to be storing the car for, but I can offer a few tips.

Definitely hook the car battery to a trickle charger.

If you're going to store the car for more than 6 months between drives, think about putting it up on axle stands. At least buy those round tire holders. That could save your tires and maybe even your rims.

Fluids don't need too much attention. Fill the gas tank with fuel to minimize water absorption from the air in the tank and add a gas stabilizer.

I'd think about changing the oil before storage and then again once you return. Over time the oil will absorb water from the atmosphere and this water will react with the sulphur (and other additives) in the oil to create acid, which is not good. When you drive your car this water is boiled off before this can be a problem, but for any engine in storage this doesn't happen.

As you're in FL, I'd try to store the car inside, if you can, and definitely covered if you can't. Ideally, because of the high humidity down there, run a table top dehumidifier (draining out of the storage space - down a drain, maybe?) in the space you'll be storing the car in. Assuming it's inside, of course.

A dust cover (if inside) will help reduce the dirt on the car as well.

Moggy wrote:

You don't say how long you're going to be storing the car for, but I can offer a few tips.

Definitely hook the car battery to a trickle charger.

If you're going to store the car for more than 6 months between drives, think about putting it up on axle stands. At least buy those round tire holders. That could save your tires and maybe even your rims.

Fluids don't need too much attention. Fill the gas tank with fuel to minimize water absorption from the air in the tank and add a gas stabilizer.

I'd think about changing the oil before storage and then again once you return. Over time the oil will absorb water from the atmosphere and this water will react with the sulphur (and other additives) in the oil to create acid, which is not good. When you drive your car this water is boiled off before this can be a problem, but for any engine in storage this doesn't happen.

As you're in FL, I'd try to store the car inside, if you can, and definitely covered if you can't. Ideally, because of the high humidity down there, run a table top dehumidifier (draining out of the storage space - down a drain, maybe?) in the space you'll be storing the car in. Assuming it's inside, of course.

A dust cover (if inside) will help reduce the dirt on the car as well.

Appreciate it! It would be two years or more storage time. I'd probably take it to Colorado to store it just because the bugs/humidity profile is better, and that's where I'd want to return to.

Coldstream wrote:

Appreciate it! It would be two years or more storage time. I'd probably take it to Colorado to store it just because the bugs/humidity profile is better, and that's where I'd want to return to.

No problem!

Rather than heat and humidity, you'll have to deal with cold. Assuming that you'll be storing the car inside, you'll need to do something about making sure your coolant and washer fluid doesn't freeze.

Either keep it in a temperature controlled garage; or put a car heater under the car in winter (or have someone do it for you); or drain the coolant and washer fluid; put anti-freeze in both (just make sure it's good for the lowest temperature you'll likely see).

Moggy wrote:
Coldstream wrote:

Appreciate it! It would be two years or more storage time. I'd probably take it to Colorado to store it just because the bugs/humidity profile is better, and that's where I'd want to return to.

No problem!

Rather than heat and humidity, you'll have to deal with cold. Assuming that you'll be storing the car inside, you'll need to do something about making sure your coolant and washer fluid doesn't freeze.

Either keep it in a temperature controlled garage; or put a car heater under the car in winter (or have someone do it for you); or drain the coolant and washer fluid; put anti-freeze in both (just make sure it's good for the lowest temperature you'll likely see).

don't put anti freeze in your washer jug.... put winter washer fluid in instead...or leave it empty

Fastmav347 wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Coldstream wrote:

Appreciate it! It would be two years or more storage time. I'd probably take it to Colorado to store it just because the bugs/humidity profile is better, and that's where I'd want to return to.

No problem!

Rather than heat and humidity, you'll have to deal with cold. Assuming that you'll be storing the car inside, you'll need to do something about making sure your coolant and washer fluid doesn't freeze.

Either keep it in a temperature controlled garage; or put a car heater under the car in winter (or have someone do it for you); or drain the coolant and washer fluid; put anti-freeze in both (just make sure it's good for the lowest temperature you'll likely see).

don't put anti freeze in your washer jug.... put winter washer fluid in instead...or leave it empty

Yeah, good catch. Thanks!

EvilHomer3k wrote:
goman wrote:

I've seen Ford Focuses around town. I kind of like the way they look but they sound terrible. Kind of whiney.

I'm not sure what my next car should be.

My dream car is a Tesla.

My almost but not quite can afford dream car is a BMW 3 series.

My second choice luxury car is an Infiniti G.

My other choices include Mazda 3 or 6, Acura IDX, Subaru Outback (a little too big) or Impreza (a bit too small) Legacy?, Volkswagon Jetta TDI, Passat TDI?

I want to spend around 25k but can go up to 30k. I want leather, a moonroof, and keyless ignition.

I'm looking in that same price range as well. You might also look at a Maxima as it a less sporty version of the G37 iirc.

My needs are slightly different as I'm looking for something that fits 3 in the back seat. I do, however, want leather, moonroof, and keyless ignition. I've driven a couple but still need to look at a BMW 5 series and Audi A6. Does anyone know if prices of used cars drop when the new model year comes in? I've been following prices for the Nissan Maxima and Dodge Charger and have not noticed any significant price drops. Since we plan on buying around August I was hoping that the prices for used 2012s would drop when the new 2014s came out. I found an article on price drops of used cars that seems to indicate that priced drop in the summer more than the rest of the year.
http://www.mojomotors.com/blog/best-...

Okay I got something this weekend. Only took 7 months.. It was on the list above.

Long story short.... It is a 2013 BMW 328i. Last years model year and priced to sell. Couldn't pass it up. It has moonroof and keyless ignition. No leather but that is okay. A bit but not much over what I posted above too. I think my wife is jealous.

I drove a G37 this weekend as a loaner too. It was fun but not as fun as the BMW. I hope I stay happy.

At two years of storage just disconnect the battery and plan on replacing or requiring a jump when you get back? You said it was a custom roadster, so you did the math and believe it is paying for the storage for that time span? What happens if after two years you don't come back to the U.S?

goman wrote:
EvilHomer3k wrote:
goman wrote:

I've seen Ford Focuses around town. I kind of like the way they look but they sound terrible. Kind of whiney.

I'm not sure what my next car should be.

My dream car is a Tesla.

My almost but not quite can afford dream car is a BMW 3 series.

My second choice luxury car is an Infiniti G.

My other choices include Mazda 3 or 6, Acura IDX, Subaru Outback (a little too big) or Impreza (a bit too small) Legacy?, Volkswagon Jetta TDI, Passat TDI?

I want to spend around 25k but can go up to 30k. I want leather, a moonroof, and keyless ignition.

I'm looking in that same price range as well. You might also look at a Maxima as it a less sporty version of the G37 iirc.

My needs are slightly different as I'm looking for something that fits 3 in the back seat. I do, however, want leather, moonroof, and keyless ignition. I've driven a couple but still need to look at a BMW 5 series and Audi A6. Does anyone know if prices of used cars drop when the new model year comes in? I've been following prices for the Nissan Maxima and Dodge Charger and have not noticed any significant price drops. Since we plan on buying around August I was hoping that the prices for used 2012s would drop when the new 2014s came out. I found an article on price drops of used cars that seems to indicate that priced drop in the summer more than the rest of the year.
http://www.mojomotors.com/blog/best-...

Okay I got something this weekend. Only took 7 months.. It was on the list above.

Long story short.... It is a 2013 BMW 328i. Last years model year and priced to sell. Couldn't pass it up. It has moonroof and keyless ignition. No leather but that is okay. A bit but not much over what I posted above too. I think my wife is jealous.

I drove a G37 this weekend as a loaner too. It was fun but not as fun as the BMW. I hope I stay happy.

Congrats! Three in the backseat will be kind of tight though.

LeapingGnome wrote:

At two years of storage just disconnect the battery and plan on replacing or requiring a jump when you get back? You said it was a custom roadster, so you did the math and believe it is paying for the storage for that time span? What happens if after two years you don't come back to the U.S?

If it becomes necessary that I store it because I'm not allowed to take it with me, then the government pays for my storage costs. Happily, there seems to be at least one company out there that uses covered, heated, monitored storage and specialises in military-owned POVs. Besides, I can't imagine storage costing more than 2-3k over a couple of years, which is far below what I'd lose if I tried to sell my car at such short notice. Coming back to the USA after two years is about as close to guaranteed as anything gets in the military. At worst, I'd be extended out there for another year.

Congrats! Three in the backseat will be kind of tight though. :)

Thanks!

Leaping Gnome said three in the back. I also have 3 kids that would sit in the back. But not that far. We have a bigger car for most of the time.