Car lovers?

JillSammich wrote:

I really dislike Porches anyway so the fact that he was double parked makes me say double eff off to this guy.

double eff to the FF!

I've had a soft spot for wagons, especially fast ones, since the original Audi RS2 avant. I think the FF is just fine, and the Merc CLS wagon is gorgeous.

I love porches though. You can sit on them and just watch the world go by. Maybe have a nice glass of ice tea.

Screened-in porsches are the best though. No bugs!

I'm disappointed by the production WRX, after having loved the concept car.

MannishBoy wrote:

I'm disappointed by the production WRX, after having loved the concept car.

No argument here. And I'm disappointed that there's no hatchback. But I'm still curious to know if the STI will look any better. We'll see once teams start rallying them, how they look sideways covered in mud.

On the other hand, how about the Subaru Levorg?

1.6-liter or 2.0-liter boxer engine, both turbocharged for your speeding pleasure. The first is rated at about 170 horsepower, the second at about 300 horsepower. Both are equipped with Subaru's Lineartronic CVT gearbox

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MannishBoy wrote:

I'm disappointed by the production WRX, after having loved the concept car.

Yep. Totally disappointing.

Looking forward to seeing the new Mustang on December 5, though. Kinda. I'm thinking it's going to be a watered down "world car" and not appeal as much to the American market.

MannishBoy wrote:

I'm disappointed by the production WRX, after having loved the concept car.

Oof, that is bloody awful looking. And not in the way some of them have been in the last few years, in the sense of "I don't know that I like the way that looks". This definitely an ick.

cheeba wrote:

Looking forward to seeing the new Mustang on December 5, though. Kinda. I'm thinking it's going to be a watered down "world car" and not appeal as much to the American market.

When I first read about how they wanted to get away from the Retro look(which has been phenomenal), I was kinda sad. That said, they went the Euro look with some other cars(Focus, Fusion) and those look absolutely phenomenal, so I'm at least somewhat hopeful that it'll look good, if not the retro look I love so well.

MannishBoy wrote:

I'm disappointed by the production WRX, after having loved the concept car.

It looks like a hotted up Corolla. Ugh.

Am I the only one that thinks it doesn't look too bad? I mean, I wouldn't write home about it, but it's not like a Nissan Juke or something...

Or maybe my apathy is discoloring my taste in most modern cars. I want more viable electric cars, performance or otherwise. Teslas are cooler than anything else on the road now, IMO (racing abilities notwithstanding), while Nobuhiro Tajima is certainly proving the electrics worthy for sport.

But that Levorg is certainly prettier than the new WRX...

MannishBoy wrote:

I'm disappointed by the production WRX, after having loved the concept car.

Is it just me, or are more and more cars just starting to look like bland sedans? Not that this looks bad, but after seeing the concept, this is just... plain.

WipEout wrote:

Am I the only one that thinks it doesn't look too bad? I mean, I wouldn't write home about it, but it's not like a Nissan Juke or something...

It's boring. Take out the hood scoop and quad exhaust, and it looks like any other boring sedan. It has no aggression to it. Anyway, WRXs are supposed to be ugly! (And blue.)

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MannishBoy wrote:

I'm disappointed by the production WRX, after having loved the concept car.

I've never been a big fan of the WRX look but at least it was unique. I'm with Phishposer - Corolla with a body kit.

I think looking at those two pics, the biggest problem from that angle was the loss of the "hips" on the quarters. The bumper is also less aggressive for reasons I can't fathom, but that's not as bad as the hips going away.

I really thought the concept looked reasonably close to production ready, outside of things like mirrors and lights.

I think if you make a coupe version of that car it comes out looking much better, somehow. But then that's not a thing they do.

It definitely loses a lot with the switch from concept to production.

Hey look, Imprezas got an upgrade!

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Any recommendations on car buying websites?

WipEout wrote:

Am I the only one that thinks it doesn't look too bad? I mean, I wouldn't write home about it, but it's not like a Nissan Juke or something...

I think it looks okay, but it's not much different from a plain ol' sedan.

Edwin wrote:

Any recommendations on car buying websites?

Carmax?

Not available in WA. Closest one is 618.02 miles away.

Edwin wrote:

Any recommendations on car buying websites?

http://www.nada.com/

http://www.kbb.com/

What do you mean by car buying web sites? I scoured autotrader and cars.com when I was looking for one. Cargurus.com searches a bunch of web sites but you have to be crafty to actually get to the dealer web sites.

Gravey wrote:

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This is more of a punch in the stomach than the usual concept >>> production transition. It went from being a rocket powered bullet to a Corolla. I know that's already been observed, but it was my first reaction to seeing it, too. I guess they're really going for the sleeper look.

I think Mannish is right about the "hips". That seems like the most drastic change. The wheels are pretty bad too. I like the openness of the concept wheels. The ones that made it just look...flat. Why wouldn't the keep the wheels at least?

EverythingsTentative wrote:

I think Mannish is right about the "hips". That seems like the most drastic change. The wheels are pretty bad too. I like the openness of the concept wheels. The ones that made it just look...flat. Why wouldn't the keep the wheels at least?

The wheels are certainly one thing. They look like cheap economy sedan hubcaps. But the biggest change is that the front and rear of the car are bumped out on the concept, but they're tapered down on the production model. I'm not really a big fan of the trend to make the front of most aggressively styled cars resemble a hair dryer, but they took what I thought was a tasteful rendition of that on the concept and just squished it. Same with the back. It went from having the line of a GT-R along the sweep of the back windscreen and trunk on the concept to a pinched down, "sensible" rear end design in production.

Very bland and not brave or the least bit sporty at all. It's taking a few of the trendier design elements and shrinking them down to nothing. Looks like design by committee in an effort not to offend anyone.

By the way, so you don't read into my moniker or caption too much, I think the late model Evo is atrociously designed, as well. While we're on the topic of hair dryers, at least.

Eh, the WRX and STI have always looked like a modded Corolla. Hot Subaru's have been appealing despite their styling.

it's a pity it was watered down, but it's really not that bad.

I thought the original WRX was unique and fairly aggressively designed for its era. The bug eye headlights were a polarizing feature, but I liked them. The STI hatch from a generation or two back wasn't bad to look at, either. It looked like its purpose was to slide around corners. This one looks more at home in a grocery store parking lot.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Eh, the WRX and STI have always looked like a modded Corolla. Hot Subaru's have been appealing despite their styling.

it's a pity it was watered down, but it's really not that bad.

I just hope the STI will keep the wing, and bring back some gold and pink (or fluorescent green, going by the WRX concept). WRXs have always looked a little uglier and a little crazier than other factory sedans dare to. They tempt you to put your family in them, except you know they'll try to kill you.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Eh, the WRX and STI have always looked like a modded Corolla.

I think the point was the concept looked like it might break that mold. I was actually kind of interested.

Now, not at all.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Eh, the WRX and STI have always looked like a modded Corolla.

I think the point was the concept looked like it might break that mold. I was actually kind of interested.

Now, not at all.