HP and the Deathly Hallows

Okay, Rubb Ed just tweeted another bit of the movie where I had no clue what was going on.

Spoiler:

Dumbledore: "Lily? Severus, all this time?" Snape: "Always." Rubb Ed: OMG BAWLING.

ME: OMGWTF?

Was Snape Harry's real father or something lame like that? They did have that Vader moment in the boat house...

BadKen wrote:

Okay, Rubb Ed just tweeted another bit of the movie where I had no clue what was going on.

Spoiler:

Dumbledore: "Lily? Severus, all this time?" Snape: "Always." Rubb Ed: OMG BAWLING.

ME: OMGWTF?

Was Snape Harry's real father or something lame like that? They did have that Vader moment in the boat house...

Spoiler:

Snape always loved Lily and hated James, partly because James bullied him, and partly because he stole Lily from him (in his mind). Snape changed his Patronus to match Lily's, which was a doe. Dumbledore said "Lily? Severus, all this time?" because he's observing that Snape still has a doe as his Patronus, either to remind himself of his own sins, or as a memorial to Lily. In the books, Tonks does a similar thing when she was mooning (chortle) after Lupin and changed her Patronus to be a wolf.

DudleySmith wrote:
BadKen wrote:

Okay, Rubb Ed just tweeted another bit of the movie where I had no clue what was going on.

Spoiler:

Dumbledore: "Lily? Severus, all this time?" Snape: "Always." Rubb Ed: OMG BAWLING.

ME: OMGWTF?

Was Snape Harry's real father or something lame like that? They did have that Vader moment in the boat house...

Spoiler:

Snape always loved Lily and hated James, partly because James bullied him, and partly because he stole Lily from him (in his mind). Snape changed his Patronus to match Lily's, which was a doe. Dumbledore said "Lily? Severus, all this time?" because he's observing that Snape still has a doe as his Patronus, either to remind himself of his own sins, or as a memorial to Lily. In the books, Tonks does a similar thing when she was mooning (chortle) after Lupin and changed her Patronus to be a wolf.

Spoiler:

Yeah they were childhood friends and he was always in love with her. That's partly why he's looked after Harry all this time. He may look like and remind Snape of James, but he's still Lily's child too. The movie's flashback scene could have been better at explaining their relationship; especially how they fell apart. (Snape fell into "the wrong crowd" and accidentally called Lily a mudblood.)

Regarding the spoiler stuff:

Spoiler:

The book made it much clearer that, despite Snape's affection, he was still a bit of a prick. Still, great scene in the movie.

Spoiler:

It begs the question, if Harry had been a girl would Snape had hated her? In fact, it puts a whole new light on Snape's worst memory back in book 5. Was it his worst memory because James and Co. humiliated him in public? No. It was his worst memory because, in anger, he called Lily a mudblood after she stood up for him and that was the day he lost her friendship.

Also...

Spoiler:

When Snape was dying he asked Harry to look at him. I think he did this in the movie too, or it was implied. I don't remember. Either way, he did this because Harry had his mother's eyes.

cheeba wrote:

Also...

Spoiler:

When Snape was dying he asked Harry to look at him. I think he did this in the movie too, or it was implied. I don't remember. Either way, he did this because Harry had his mother's eyes.

Spoiler:

he did it in the movie. even spoke that line.

DudleySmith wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
DudleySmith wrote:

Some spoilery stuff.

It's still a deus ex machina and a lame one at that. However, I don't suppose I can complain about lame deux ex machinae in a series that ends six of its seven books with one. :)

If you put a bucket of water over a door and push your enemy through the door during a fight, that's not a deus ex machina. Dumbledore has been manipulating everything.

Agree to disagree, lest we forget and follow this down the rabbit hole.

I agree somewhat with Clock, for me book 7 was more about getting out of the corner she wrote herself into than about wrapping up the story properly. The movie was great, I loved the Dragon at Gringotts, the battle was nice, Ralph Fiennes belongs in the gallery of most despicable villains in movie history, and so on, but, Story-wise, neither the movie nor the book are the best examples of good plot resolution. They're not terrible, mind you, but given the expectations people had, I was expecting something a bit better, for lack of a better term. Oh well.

Some people have different views on how the story should have ended.

Oh, slightly NSFW.

So, after they re-release all of the films in 3-d and put out the ultimate blu-ray boxed set...how many years before they re-make the films? Do they do some sort of mini series for the first film since the film had to cut out parts of the book? or is this truly a once off thing?

Ego Man wrote:

So, after they re-release all of the films in 3-d and put out the ultimate blu-ray boxed set...how many years before they re-make the films? Do they do some sort of mini series for the first film since the film had to cut out parts of the book? or is this truly a once off thing?

To be honest I think it feels like a once-off. The books defined the 1993-2000-ish generation, and a lot of adults enjoyed them too, but I don't think we'll see a repeat.

I could see them remaking the Lord of the Rings in 10 or so years over HP

When do you think we'll get a better Star Wars prequel?

Grenn wrote:

When do you think we'll get a better Star Wars prequel?

When Lucas is dead.

They'll remake Star Wars first.

(I actually think that's just a few years away.)

ClockworkHouse wrote:

They'll remake Star Wars first.

(I actually think that's just a few years away.)

I'd love to see a sequel made with Lucas's blessing, but without his meddling. Just shoot things forward a century or three so that the character don't have to be tied into the existing stories.