Elite Dangerous Catch-All

I can post my CH Throttle/CH Flightstick bindings later. I think there's some value in setting them up for yourself, so you know where everything is, but I'm weird like that.

Edit: A download link. I also posted it on the CH Hanger site.

I've been using my basic controls here for a while, and just added the additional modes as an experiment. You'll have to go through the CMC file and compare the settings there to the bindings in Elite. I tried to keep them pretty close to the default keyboard settings, but Frontier has been adding some bindings in the past few patches.

Goonch wrote:

Just put in for the pre-order. I'm in for the duration!

Hey Goonch, do you live in Clifton or work there?

Went to try my hand at trading and... I apparently suck at it. Everything I tried to do, I found the system that supposedly imports the item bought it for about 200 less than what I paid...
Went back to bulletin board until I save enough for a cobra + insurance, then I'll go fighting.

Taharka wrote:

Went to try my hand at trading and... I apparently suck at it. Everything I tried to do, I found the system that supposedly imports the item bought it for about 200 less than what I paid...
Went back to bulletin board until I save enough for a cobra + insurance, then I'll go fighting.

The trading data on the map is a bit messed up at the moment. The most reliable thing to check is how far below galactic average something is; that makes it much easier to find somewhere to offload it at a profit.

Gremlin wrote:
Taharka wrote:

Went to try my hand at trading and... I apparently suck at it. Everything I tried to do, I found the system that supposedly imports the item bought it for about 200 less than what I paid...
Went back to bulletin board until I save enough for a cobra + insurance, then I'll go fighting.

The trading data on the map is a bit messed up at the moment. The most reliable thing to check is how far below galactic average something is; that makes it much easier to find somewhere to offload it at a profit.

The only way to do that, though, is to go to the system, right?

Gremlin wrote:

I can post my CH Throttle/CH Flightstick bindings later. I think there's some value in setting them up for yourself, so you know where everything is, but I'm weird like that.

Edit: A download link. I also posted it on the CH Hanger site.

I've been using my basic controls here for a while, and just added the additional modes as an experiment. You'll have to go through the CMC file and compare the settings there to the bindings in Elite. I tried to keep them pretty close to the default keyboard settings, but Frontier has been adding some bindings in the past few patches.

Is that for the Flightstick or Fighterstick?

I've been using a CH Throttle + Fighterstick map I found that has a full explanation + shifting modes + quick reference PDF that's working well for now but I can't try everything out yet with only being in the combat training demo.

Gremlin wrote:

I can post my CH Throttle/CH Flightstick bindings later. I think there's some value in setting them up for yourself, so you know where everything is, but I'm weird like that.

Edit: A download link. I also posted it on the CH Hanger site.

I've been using my basic controls here for a while, and just added the additional modes as an experiment. You'll have to go through the CMC file and compare the settings there to the bindings in Elite. I tried to keep them pretty close to the default keyboard settings, but Frontier has been adding some bindings in the past few patches.

Awesome, thanks for posting this.

I agree that there is a lot to gain from going through the process yourself, and I will no doubt spend quite a bit of time doing that. I spent many hours that way with IL2 Sturmovik/Pacific Fighters and with MSFS.

But as Tamren mentioned above, those of us who are late to the party and only doing preorder have a little less information to work with. Having a look at a couple examples of mapping gives some insight into both the variety of commands available and the way that other people envision the groupings.

The other set I've been looking at was linked from (I think) CH Hangar, by Dom Davis. He has a slightly different arrangement than you, and also seems to be using a virtual device with 32 (?) DirectX buttons rather than having the button presses send keypresses. He has a custom bindings file which maps the buttons to the game functions. I find the keypress method easier to understand, but have to wonder if there is some advantage to the DirectX buttons. He wrote "due to limitations on the number of buttons available some buttons are mapped to key presses", so does seem to prefer the buttons.

Edit: LOL, Crhis beat me to the Dom Davis reference.

Crhis wrote:

Is that for the Flightstick or Fighterstick?

The image in Gremlin's posting shows the FighterStick.

Hrdina wrote:

Edit: LOL, Crhis beat me to the Dom Davis reference. :D

It's a good place to start I think and then you can make modifications as you go. I'll definitely be switching parts mind as I have an EDTracker on the way and Voice Attack to set up yet. I want all the controls.

Just spent my Saturday morning watching about 3 hours of Veloxi's last stream. Holy sh*t was that a mistake.

Boughted.

I have no will power.

Crhis wrote:
Hrdina wrote:

Edit: LOL, Crhis beat me to the Dom Davis reference. :D

It's a good place to start I think and then you can make modifications as you go. I'll definitely be switching parts mind as I have an EDTracker on the way and Voice Attack to set up yet. I want all the controls.

Yeah, I have a TrackIR buried in my "flight sim box". I figured I would get the stick/throttle set up first before working on that.

I've never seen (heard?) Voice Attack, but with the wife & kids around I don't tend to do much voice stuff when I play.

Can anyone recommend a good YouTube playlist or article that is a bit of a crash course on this game? I purchased it last night, and was unable to locate any videos beyond people just flying around and crashing into each other.

ELewis17 wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good YouTube playlist or article that is a bit of a crash course on this game? I purchased it last night, and was unable to locate any videos beyond people just flying around and crashing into each other.

Frontier have been uploading some tutorial videos to YouTube. They are the Frontier Developments user.

DudleySmith wrote:
ELewis17 wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good YouTube playlist or article that is a bit of a crash course on this game? I purchased it last night, and was unable to locate any videos beyond people just flying around and crashing into each other.

Frontier have been uploading some tutorial videos to YouTube. They are the Frontier Developments user.

Link for the lazy.

I'm also interested in recommendations, there are so many systems not included in the combat training demo that I'm not sure on.

D-Man777 wrote:

Just spent my Saturday morning watching about 3 hours of Veloxi's last stream. Holy sh*t was that a mistake.

Boughted.

I have no will power.

Yaaay, thank you for watching! I'll be streaming again live in about 45 minutes.

Veloxi wrote:
D-Man777 wrote:

Just spent my Saturday morning watching about 3 hours of Veloxi's last stream. Holy sh*t was that a mistake.

Boughted.

I have no will power.

Yaaay, thank you for watching! I'll be streaming again live in about 45 minutes. :)

I'm already there.

You and Jose talking during that stream were echoing what was bouncing around in my head--if our teenage selves could see what we have now...

Watching you play took me back to so many hours in front of my treasured C64, exploring the galaxy at 5 fps. Simpler times in so many ways.

It is the Fighterstick, I misspoke earlier. I think I'll type up my reasoning for the controls, though that will take a bit. Might help other people, no matter which stick they're using.

In other news, I'm testing the tweaks to my bindings by making a trading run down to Imperial space and then back to Lave.

Hrdina wrote:
Goonch wrote:

Just put in for the pre-order. I'm in for the duration!

Hey Goonch, do you live in Clifton or work there?

Hi, I live in Clifton and work in Morristown.

Trading requires you scout your location first to make sure the prices are right. You can write down on a pad, or use excel, or use tools like these:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...
http://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangero... (to use with Slopey's above)

I don't understand how to setup my joystick, which I just dug up out of the basement closet. I have a Saitek AV8R-01 from my old flight simming days.

The controls option in the Single Player Combat Training just has a generic joystick in the drop-down. What do you do with that?

Thanks

Please excuse the fact that I'm too lazy to skim 80 pages to find out the answer to this myself.

I'll definitely buy this eventually, but I'm curious to know from those of you already playing if the bonuses included in the "Mercenary Edition" pre-order (ship, skins, other junk) are of significant in-game value/utility or if I'll be just as well off waiting a month or three for the inevitable sale.

They don't add a lot. The free ship sells for around 40k. The benefit of the pre-order is really the slight price increase that will happen after launch.

I'm also not sure how long it will be until a sale. They are self-publishing, and not releasing on Steam so are not under the same pressure to join in sale events. I think if they are increasing the price at launch, they won't drop it for a good while. But I have nothing to back that up

Gremlin wrote:

It is the Fighterstick, I misspoke earlier. I think I'll type up my reasoning for the controls, though that will take a bit. Might help other people, no matter which stick they're using.

In other news, I'm testing the tweaks to my bindings by making a trading run down to Imperial space and then back to Lave.

Funny, I hadn't noticed before now that you wrote Flightstick before. I looked at your files and said "yep, that likes like my stick" and never thought twice about it.

I'll look forward to reading your write-up.

I flew some more of the combat trainer missions using Dom's mapping. One problem I had was that I kept accidentally hitting the "boost" button, including once when I was on the six of a sidewinder that was down to almost 0% armor. He has that on side-hat on the stick (where you have forward thrust). The L/R directions on that hat are the yaw controls, which I was using when trying to adjust my aim point.

You seem to use a lot of shift-commands, too, rather than modes. My pinky finger brushes that button occasionally, so I have to be very careful about that.

Goonch wrote:
Hrdina wrote:
Goonch wrote:

Just put in for the pre-order. I'm in for the duration!

Hey Goonch, do you live in Clifton or work there?

Hi, I live in Clifton and work in Morristown.

Cool, I live in Summit and work in Clifton. My son plays soccer in Morristown, and we go there to eat at Raul's Empanadas when we can.

(sorry for the brief thread derail)

Thanks for the stream tonight Veloxi t'was good fun.. although perhaps I talk too much in chat :p

omni wrote:

Thanks for the stream tonight Veloxi t'was good fun.. although perhaps I talk too much in chat :p

Thank you for watching! I am soooo tired!

Thanks for that, Gremlin. Copy-pasted for when I finally decide on a HOTAS system.

Since I last linked it a few pages back, here's the google doc I use to track/share my configuration.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...

Lots of similarities to what Gremlin described, particularly since I'm using the same throttle (which is a wonderful product). However, instead of the CH FighterStick I use a Thrustmaster T16000-M, which has a much crappier button layout but DOES have a twist stick for yaw, and is about half the price. Anyway, it's probably not the most common combination of peripherals, but the document might have some ideas useful to new players considering how to set up their controls regardless.

Also, many people use VoiceAttack for voice commands which seems like an excellent option, but if you are comfortable with a bit of C syntax scripting you might look into GlovePIE, which I'm using to implement my voice commands as well as a few other slightly more complex pieces of my control scheme. The script I'm using (or maybe a slightly out of date version?) is included at the bottom of the document, if you are curious.

zeroKFE wrote:

Lots of similarities to what Gremlin described, particularly since I'm using the same throttle (which is a wonderful product). However, instead of the CH FighterStick I use a Thrustmaster T16000-M, which has a much crappier button layout but DOES have a twist stick for yaw, and is about half the price. Anyway, it's probably not the most common combination of peripherals, but the document might have some ideas useful to new players considering how to set up their controls regardless.

Also, many people use VoiceAttack for voice commands which seems like an excellent option, but if you are comfortable with a bit of C syntax scripting you might look into GlovePIE, which I'm using to implement my voice commands as well as a few other slightly more complex pieces of my control scheme. The script I'm using (or maybe a slightly out of date version?) is included at the bottom of the document, if you are curious.

Actually, I think the T16000-M is pretty widespread, and the CH Pro Throttle is just about the only quality stand-alone throttle on the market, so the combination is likely more common than you'd think for people who bought their stick first. Though the most common HOTAS is probably still the Saitek x52, which I'm told is actually pretty close to the modeled HOTAS in the cockpits.

Speaking of Voice Attack, I found that someone actually produced a paid profile specifically for Elite, complete with recorded audio for the computer.

Dragon Naturally Speaking can also likely be used, via Dragonfly, but that requires knowing Python and a lot more elbow grease unless you've got dragonfly set up already.

Filthy enablers. I'm in.

ELewis17 wrote:

Thanks for that, Gremlin. Copy-pasted for when I finally decide on a HOTAS system.

Yes, thanks Gremlin!

I've had a read-through, but since it is 1:30 am and I just got back from a holiday party, I'll have to read it again later.

Right before I went out for the evening, I hooked up my old TrackIR 3 Pro (with vector) and had a quick combat trainer mission. Wow, I had forgotten how much better that thing made flight sims. The only downside is having to answer questions from my kids about why I'm wearing a ball cap with a weird reflective thingy stuck to it..

Al wrote:

Filthy enablers. I'm in.

You're welcome!

Veloxi wrote:
Laarrs wrote:
Veloxi wrote:

Hey guys, our next podcast on Tuesday coincides with Elite's launch day, so we're gonna have an online launch party of sorts. I've created a private group under my name (Veloxi, ovbs), and we're likely gonna meet at Chango Dock in i Bootis to get into some trouble and what not on our Twitch stream while doing a roundtable as to why the game is so great. If y'all wanna join, PM so we can get hooked up on Skype. :)

Hmmm, I might be in for that, assuming I can get to I Bootis before Tuesday. What time do you guys record? I usually don't get home from work until 8PM EST, although sometimes I can get back by 7PM.

We record typically at 7 PM Pacific, though I'm thinking we might start streaming before that.

Cool. I'm in the I Bootis area now. I have a Cobra that was originally outfitted for trade missions, but the economy around I Bootis seems to be crap at the moment, so I splurged some money and got the Cobra setup for some good old-fashioned bounty hunting. I hung around Freeport area tonight, dragging ships out of supercruise to make sure they were clean, kinda like a self-appointed sheriff.

What were you planning on doing Tuesday? If we are doing some piracy or something else illicit, I'll change up my loadout, if needed, maybe smack a cargo scanner and the cargo hatch disrupter thingy on the old girl. I could also stream my stuff on Twitch at the same time, if you want. Let me know.