Happy Hump Day Survey!

I should probably take this to the podcast recommendation thread, but The Canon -- wherein film critics Devin Faraci and Amy Nicholson argue about whether a movie is worthy of being in the canon of great/influentual movies -- did Clerks recently, and digresses into Kevin Smith's entire career, and a slapfight about Tusk. It might be of interest to all you Kevin Smith fans. (Or a source of apoplectic rage.)

Cool, gonna download that.

And likely never listen to it, such is my job/life now.

Flintheart Glomgold wrote:

although who goes to Malls anymore?

As someone who has been to two different malls in the past 3 days, during February Vacation - teenagers. Bored teenagers.

McIrishJihad wrote:
Flintheart Glomgold wrote:

although who goes to Malls anymore?

As someone who has been to two different malls in the past 3 days, during February Vacation - teenagers. Bored teenagers.

So nothing has changed since I hung out at malls in the late 80s and early 90s.

Also, another Blue Brothers scene.

I watched Clerks too late in life to ever find it funny. Granted, in my particular case, "too late in life" might mean "at any point in my life because I have no sense of humor".

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I watched Clerks too late in life to ever find it funny. Granted, in my particular case, "too late in life" might mean "at any point in my life because I have no sense of humor".

As much as there is always a place on my dvd shelf for Clerks (or until dvds are obsolete), it (and other Kevin Smith movies) is definitely not a movie I'd begrudge someone for not liking. There is a long list of comedies I would defend first.

I used to put Kevin Smith in the same boat as Tarantino and Linklater because they all hit about the same time; while those two grew as directors I don't see that so much in Kevin Smith (even though I enjoyed Red State he seemed to be trying too hard).

Along that line:

and

I've been wanting to use this clip since day one and can't believe I forgot about it yesterday.

Flintheart Glomgold wrote:

I used to put Kevin Smith in the same boat as Tarantino and Linklater because they all hit about the same time; while those two grew as directors I don't see that so much in Kevin Smith (even though I enjoyed Red State he seemed to be trying too hard).

Along that line:

and

Clip from Before Sunset

I recently rented Before Sunrise and Before Sunset thanks to the Now Playing podcast going over the trilogy leading up to their review of Boyhood. I still need to see Before Midnight, but I'll say were it not for Before Sunset, I likely wouldn't be so fond of Before Sunrise. But if I saw it in high school? Well, maybe. I can definitely agree that Linklater grew as a director, though really the entire creative team there did. That's just an interesting set of films where it's all about following the characters and where they are in life.

In fact, for some reason, even though I don't know much about Clock's tastes, it does jump at me as a series of films that Clock might enjoy. But don't hold me to that.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I watched Clerks too late in life to ever find it funny. Granted, in my particular case, "too late in life" might mean "at any point in my life because I have no sense of humor".

Were you ever an angry youth that was so full of themselves in regards to their own intellectualism? I used to think it helped if you worked in the service industry to understand Clerks, but honestly, all it takes is a sense of superiority over those around you, particularly to identify with Randal.

I'll be honest, though, even as an adult, I find the dynamic between Randal and Dante to be an interesting one. It's also kind of interesting that Flintheart linked Before Sunset, because Clerks and Clerks II are kind of the same thing, but with a lot of crude humor mixed in with the self-absorbed intellectualism. But I feel like there's an awareness that a lot of that is bullsh*t (partially because Randal says so at the end of Clerks), whereas the Before movies, particularly the first one, are quite romanticized. The second one sort of breaks down the tragedy that is that perfect fairy tale evening of the first film, but it doesn't simultaneously really step back and say "Maybe we're doing some horrible stuff here, or maybe we truly f*cked up". But that's also because the people feel more real, and for good reason considering how the films were developed.

Michael Zenke wrote:

I get where you're coming from. For me I think it's very interesting, when I was in high school and college his movies were pretty much universally loved by my peer group. Now I think there's a lot of retroactive hate by folks that are older and more secure in their lives and don't like to be reminded how stupid it is to live in the real world. My favorite of his movies is probably still Dogma, and that one in particular gets a lot of hate from people I know. Who have gotten older and a little more churchy than they used to be back in the day. So it goes.

Even as someone that is a lot more knowledgeable about the Bible and my faith than I was in high school, I feel like I'll find Dogma "cute" in the same regard as a dog thinking it is people is cute upon rewatching it. But watching that clip you shared does have me itching to see Dogma again, truth told.

Did you ever watch the "deleted scenes" on the special edition DVD? It's more like every scene, damn near EVERY scene, was cut down. Part of me wants there to be a Blu-Ray release of Dogma that contains both the theatrical cut and the extended director's cut that is bound to be three hours long. I just want to see what it's like to have EVERYTHING in there, because that sucker was LONG before it was edited down.

Ugh, Before Midnight really bummed me out. I so love the first two movies and was really sad about the third one. It's still very well written and the couple still seems really authentic, but I didn't like where he took the story.

HAPPY HUMP DAY!!

What fictional family did you want to be part of when you were a kid? What about now?

The House of Amber, both then and now

When I was a teen: House Atreides. At basically any point in time.
Now?... I'm not sure, really. Sooooo, still House Atreides?

Skywalker?

garion333 wrote:

Skywalker?

Hehe, I almost wrote the Shan family. Or maybe Onasi. <3

DiscoDriveby wrote:

HAPPY HUMP DAY!!

What fictional family did you want to be part of when you were a kid? What about now?

When I was a kid I wanted to be in any family but my own; but if I had to pick back then though I would have said the Strattons from Silver Spoons because that kid got everything and seemed to get away with everything.

Today I would just like to take the wife and kids to the Star Trek universe (Next Generation) cause space travel and holodecks.

Then: Griswold

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Now: Belcher

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Eleima wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Skywalker?

Hehe, I almost wrote the Shan family. Or maybe Onasi. <3

Pffffft.

Horn/Halcyons.

Then:
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Now:
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TheHarpoMarxist wrote:

Then:
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I don't know what this is. Is that Ione Skye?

Then: The Murrys from A Wrinkle in Time. Either that or the Pevensies from the Narnia books.

Now: The Beifongs

Then: Frodo and Bilbo from LOTR maybe? My name might be Brodo?
Now: I don't really want to be part of a family, fictional or otherwise.

Huxtables (or any family but my own, really). Now? The Weasleys.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Now: I don't really want to be part of a family, fictional or otherwise.

You can be part of my family. We watch Ghibli movies together.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Now: I don't really want to be part of a family, fictional or otherwise.

Damn, man, that's about the most depressing thing I've seen in a long while and I've been hanging out in the divorce thread lately.

garion333 wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Now: I don't really want to be part of a family, fictional or otherwise.

Damn, man, that's about the most depressing thing I've seen in a long while and I've been hanging out in the divorce thread lately.

I like being alone for the most part. I had enough family issues growing up to last me a lifetime, and I'm not very good at relationships. I get plenty of family love from GWJ.

That first pic is from the little known, quickly cancelled TV series Covington Cross, obviously

Then:

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Now:

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Then: that never really happened?
Now: that doesn't really happen either?

I dunno, maybe it's because my family is fairly boring and undramatic, or I'm too much of a tuffalobuffalo, but that seems like a weird fantasy to me.

If I'd have to go with one, I'd make it the Leverage crime family, because a) it's a found family anyway, so that feels less weird b) they're a fun hyper-competent bunch, and you'd learn a sh*t ton hanging around them, and c) it'd be awesome to live in a world where white collar criminal scum gets properly punished.