Re: Liebeck vs. McDonalds
I was always under the impression that this lady just spilled her coffee, and sued because it hurt.
I had no idea she was burned as bad as she was.
Thank you for enlightening me, Trashie, dthind, and Oso.
Getting Married
Well to begin with, the divorce rates in this country are so high you should automatically be scared. I say you can't get married until the following conditions have been met. 1) You are at least 25 years old, mostly because so much fun can occur between 21 and 25 that you would be a fool to miss this. 2) You have to have been with the person you plan on marrying for three years. One year dating, one year living together and one year figuring out if the last two years are worth spending the next 40 to 60 years with that person. And 3) you have to travel to at least two separate continents with this person to see what other parts of the world are really like. I should throw in a 4th condition but it involves someone both of you being sick and the other one has to help clean it up, but that probably happens sometime in the first two years anyway.
Having Children
You have to be married, so see the conditions from above and you have to watch someone else's kids for two weekends a month for a year and two non consecutive weeks during your vacation time. If that doesn't change your mind, then nothing else will.
Work Meetings
I say that at least once per month you can say in a work meeting after someone has spoken something along the lines of "dude, I call BS on that last part" and they have to tell the truth. We all know somewhere, at sometime someone is making a claim that is total BS and almost the entire room wants to call them on it. This is like liars poker, but only at work. If you catch them and they admit it you get the day off and that person owes you a beer or lunch or something. If you're wrong you owe them.
Also if any meeting goes more than 45 minutes the person that calls the meeting will be required by international law to buy lunch or donuts or something to hold you over. People need to plan what they say a little better and get to the point.
Fad Diets
Creating a new diet that modifies how much you eat is now banned. This isn't a diet, it's called common sense. I plan on starting a diet that says stop eating donuts (unless someone makes you sit in a meeting for more than 45 minutes) and lose weight. Don't tell me that if I eat smaller portions and exercise I will lose weight, then charge me for that advice. That would be in direct violation to this rule. Telling me to drink more water and eat less cheetos and drink less beer is not considered diet advice.
Also if you tell more than three people you are on a diet they will have the right to call BS if you don't lose weight at the rate the diet says you will. Face it, people saying that they are on a diet is a conversation piece now, that's it. While sitting around the proverbial water cooler the conversation goes like this "Hey Marge did you hear we invaded Uzbekistan to save the Furry Woodchuck from mass extinction?. No I didn't but I started my new Red Wine and Beef Jerky diet today, it's really all the rage I hear"…"
Reality Shows
They are scripted and heavily edited. Stop acting like the people are being spontaneous. Other than Ozzy still being stoned from a Black Sabbath tour from 1978, theses shows are contrived and created for your amusement and their profit. It's just amazing how a full camera crew is present when something totally unforeseen occurs.
If you know the time slot or TiVo programming code for more than one reality show you are now required to walk around the block as a punishment as soon as the show starts. A real reality show would have a bunch of people sitting in front of a TV watching themselves get fat and then they would get up between commercials to get another beer and some cheetos.
Super Models
First off, I am somewhat of a hypocrite on this subject. Let's stop calling them super models. Let's just call them hot chicks that don't eat and hopefully get a boob job to make us feel like they look healthy when they are probably 30 pounds underweight and if they didn't have a boob job they would look like a two by four with hair. They aren't super. If you must call them super, then they have to be smarter than a fifth grader first.
Yea, but damn some of them are hot looking"…
Also if any meeting goes more than 45 minutes the person that calls the meeting will be required by international law to buy lunch or donuts or something to hold you over. People need to plan what they say a little better and get to the point.
My boss is frequently guilty of this during his "meeting seasons". The bastard 
[...] and if they didn't have a boob job they would look like a two by four with hair
Perfect visual 
Mmm... I just love to pull up to Starbucks each week and fill up with 15 gallons of delicious coffee.
The 2x4's entirely on my end.
Let's just call them hot chicks that don't eat and hopefully get a boob job to make us feel like they look healthy when they are probably 30 pounds underweight and if they didn't have a boob job they would look like a two by four with hair. They aren't super. If you must call them super, then they have to be smarter than a fifth grader first.
Any working model, high fashion or catalogue or whatever, would never get a boob job, because it would put them out of work. Sample sizes are not made for women with noticable chests (read: anything above an A cup), and many current fashions don't even look right on well-endowed women (tube tops, halters, anything high-waisted, etc.). So your rant is about twenty years too late: Kate Moss's body type is the current industry ideal, not Cindy Crawford's.
Any working model, high fashion or catalogue or whatever, would never get a boob job, because it would put them out of work. Sample sizes are not made for women with noticable chests (read: anything above an A cup), and many current fashions don't even look right on well-endowed women (tube tops, halters, anything high-waisted, etc.). So your rant is about twenty years too late: Kate Moss's body type is the current industry ideal, not Cindy Crawford's.
Fashion models are their own beasts. Most of them are in work because they make the clothes look good, not look good in the clothes. I spent a short time in the modeling industry and believe me, guys, most of these models aren't particularly attractive. Swimsuit models on the other hand, pure lust.
On the topic of marriage, if two people want to get married and ruin each others lives, go knock yourselves out. If it doesn't effect my life in any way I couldn't care less.
I'd like to throw my own solution to pointless internet arguments. If it goes on incessantly long. A majority vote is taken by the board denizens and if found guilty of idiotic behavior the two main culprits must travel to a neutral destination and engage in "Thunderdome" type combat. The survivor is declared winner of the argument and therefore "right".
You know, I happen to think tube tops look just fine on a girl with an ample chest. I don't care what the fashionistas say!
You know, I happen to think tube tops look just fine on a girl with an ample chest. I don't care what the fashionistas say!
Agreed.
It sure didn't hurt Jill in Resident Evil 3.
It sure didn't hurt Jill in Resident Evil 3.
Sorry to burst the bubble, but Physics were suspended to make that happen...
How about the fact that MTV rarely plays music videos? And that fact that G4TV rarely airs any shows about technology. Mind boggling to say the least. I've seen some of the most ridiculous crap on both channels.
Fashion models are their own beasts. Most of them are in work because they make the clothes look good, not look good in the clothes. I spent a short time in the modeling industry and believe me, guys, most of these models aren't particularly attractive. Swimsuit models on the other hand, pure lust.
Agreed. Thumb through any Vogue or watch a slideshow of Fashion Week, and you'll see a surprising amount of them look like horses: 12-year-old, vaguely Ukranian horses, even down to the stomp.
Just out of curiosity, Trainwreck, what did you do in the modeling industry?
Trainwreck wrote:Fashion models are their own beasts. Most of them are in work because they make the clothes look good, not look good in the clothes. I spent a short time in the modeling industry and believe me, guys, most of these models aren't particularly attractive. Swimsuit models on the other hand, pure lust.
Agreed. Thumb through any Vogue or watch a slideshow of Fashion Week, and you'll see a surprising amount of them look like horses: 12-year-old, vaguely Ukranian horses, even down to the stomp.
Just out of curiosity, Trainwreck, what did you do in the modeling industry?
I was a part-time model from around 19-21. Nothing big, mostly catalogs and internal test stuff. Really did it on a whim, befriended a photographer and one day she asked if I wanted to model for this job she was doing. Tall moderately attractive asians aren't in great supply so there was a demand for my body type. Pretty boring, really, but you couldn't beat the pay. 500 dollars for a few hours of what they call work got no complaints from me, and the free clothes didn't hurt either. Must have had 30-40 pairs of sneakers at one point. If there's one bad thing from all of that it would probably have to be my expensive taste in clothes. I like Marc Jacobs, Prada, and Dolce & Gabbana too damn much. Good thing I moved to an area where I can't buy any of their clothes.
The 2x4's entirely on my end.
No need to brag there matey.... we get that you got some decent sized wood...
You know, I happen to think tube tops look just fine on a girl with an ample chest. I don't care what the fashionistas say!
Yep, gotta love women with breasts (B cup or larger preferably). Not too fond of models in general though they serve their purpose as hangars quite nicely.
Edwin wrote:It sure didn't hurt Jill in Resident Evil 3.
Sorry to burst the bubble, but Physics were suspended to make that happen...
I need to play Resi 3.... didn't know you could use suspenders on physics. Guess it's why really fat people use them!
Fashion models are their own beasts. Most of them are in work because they make the clothes look good, not look good in the clothes.
Haha! Loved that.
Tall moderately attractive asians aren't in great supply so there was a demand for my body type.
You're like the opposite of Asz....
/Randomness
Trainwreck wrote:Fashion models are their own beasts. Most of them are in work because they make the clothes look good, not look good in the clothes.
Haha! Loved that.
I'm not sure that was a joke. You should read some of the things that designers say about the girls who walk in their shows, how the "fabric hangs better" off 5'11, 120 lb. girls and such.
Anyway, that's really interesting, Trainwreck. All the photographers I befriended were too busy doing drugs and breaking into abandoned psychiatric hospitals to be of any similar use to me.
I've read that catalog work is where the big money is, even though fancy-pants editorial spreads are what everyone wants to do. Is that true? And did you ever do any runway work?
500 dollars for a few hours of what they call work got no complaints from me, and the free clothes didn't hurt either. Must have had 30-40 pairs of sneakers at one point.
Ah, to be 19 again. And 5'10. And a size 2. Really, if it weren't for those simple things, I could be rolling in free Marc Jacobs, too. Damn you, nature!
Duoae wrote:Trainwreck wrote:Fashion models are their own beasts. Most of them are in work because they make the clothes look good, not look good in the clothes.
Haha! Loved that.
I'm not sure that was a joke. You should read some of the things that designers say about the girls who walk in their shows, how the "fabric hangs better" off 5'11, 120 lb. girls and such.
I know it wasn't a joke but really, it is. People laugh at the Darwin awards. I guess i'm okay laughing at the inference that breasts are purely decorative and used to fill out/hang or shape clothes in desirable fashions.
[Fun fact] I almost posted this with the word "no" as the second word...
Edwin wrote:It sure didn't hurt Jill in Resident Evil 3.
Sorry to burst the bubble, but Physics were suspended to make that happen...
I don't think it was the physics that was suspended, per se. 
I guess my model comment was geared more towards the Tyra Banks, Cindy Crawford and Claudia Shiffer type and not really the runway / catwalk model. I find nothing appealing abut the heroin look of a Kate Moss. If she gained some weight she would be hot, and stopped doing drugs, but thats a given.
Long ago in college I took photography classes from a woman that was previously a new york fashion photographer in the 80's she said she left the industry because of all the drugs being done so freely.
I guess my model comment was geared more towards the Tyra Banks, Cindy Crawford and Claudia Shiffer type and not really the runway / catwalk model.
Cindy Crawford and Claudia Schiffer are enigmas in the fashion industry. From a modeling standpoint, they are huge. Cindy Crawford's popularity at her peak helped in undermining the belief that all models had to be less than 100 pounds. Unfortunately the old viewpoint has become the norm again.
I've read that catalog work is where the big money is, even though fancy-pants editorial spreads are what everyone wants to do. Is that true? And did you ever do any runway work?
It really depends on the catalog and your contracts. The good thing about catalog work is if the client likes you, you're pretty much guaranteed work for an extended period of time. A friend of mine was an Ambercrombie model and he was compensated quite well. I'm sure the Victoria's Secret models make major money considering the nationwide distribution and frequent updating of the catalog. Most print ads and spreads are one-offs, so you might get paid more for the day, but the long term income flow isn't there. Supermodels can pick and choose their gigs, but us plebs took it whenever we got it so constant income was definitely welcome.
I did a real small bit of runway work, the highlight of my career (if you want to call it that) was being in Bryant Park in 98 and a show I did in Tokyo. If you thought I was a rare commodity in the U.S. a young 6' Japanese guy in Japan was unheard of. I could have stayed in Japan and worked for a while but it would have been too much of a strain. Plus that would've made me have to drop out of college. Wasn't really for me, plus I don't think I had the cut from stone facial structure that most male runway models have. I like fashion, but man those people took it so seriously it became un-appealing.
Long ago in college I took photography classes from a woman that was previously a new york fashion photographer in the 80's she said she left the industry because of all the drugs being done so freely.
Well I don't know how pervasive it is now but in the 90's it was still going strong. The running joke was that a model's diet consisted of champagne and cocaine, with maybe a speedball snack. I'm not going to deny that I did it. Like the late Rick James said, "Cocaine is a powerful drug", but I was lucky that since I had grown up in the NYC area, I had a solid base of friends who weren't models who could keep me grounded. It's not hard to see how a young, naive kid could be thrust in the Big Apple and lose their way.
It's a cutthroat industry. As a model you really are a piece of meat, a commodity. Everything depends on how you look and position your body, and is very degrading at some points. Nobody has your best interests in mind so you're left to fend for yourself and since most models are young and impressionable, they're quite easy to manipulate.
Even after all those negatives I don't regret those times at all. It was fun, lucrative, and I got out with my sanity and no lasting dependencies. What more can you ask for?
He also learned that there's more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. Sorry, too easy.
Models aren't pieces of meat. Pieces of meat are comprised of meat.
To be honest, my feelings about models are pretty thoroughly interwoven with my feelings about LA and NY in general.
Getting Married
Well to begin with, the divorce rates in this country are so high you should automatically be scared. I say you can't get married until the following conditions have been met. 1) You are at least 25 years old, mostly because so much fun can occur between 21 and 25 that you would be a fool to miss this. 2) You have to have been with the person you plan on marrying for three years. One year dating, one year living together and one year figuring out if the last two years are worth spending the next 40 to 60 years with that person. And 3) you have to travel to at least two separate continents with this person to see what other parts of the world are really like. I should throw in a 4th condition but it involves someone both of you being sick and the other one has to help clean it up, but that probably happens sometime in the first two years anyway.
I'd also add another step - $$$. Make sure that you two are on the same page financially, as in plans for saving, investing, and how to pay the costs of living together. Most importantly, be open about any and all debt that has been accumulated.
He also learned that there's more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. Sorry, too easy.
I'm surprised it took this long for you all to start taking shots, I was starting to get disappointed. For the record, I'm not ridiculously good looking. I got work because I was a tall Asian, not because I was the Japanese Brad Pitt.
Sorry to be a pedant, but Nixon wasn't actually impeached.
"Nixon resigned following a committee vote to approve impeachment proceedings, but before actual impeachment by the full House."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment
It's a cutthroat industry. As a male model you really are a trained assassin, a human weapon. Everything depends on how you look and position your body, and is very degrading at some points. Nobody has your best interests in mind so you're left to fend for yourself and since most models are young and impressionable, they're quite easy to manipulate into killing the Indonesian president.
So it IS true!
Trainwreck wrote:It's a cutthroat industry. As a male model you really are a trained assassin, a human weapon. Everything depends on how you look and position your body, and is very degrading at some points. Nobody has your best interests in mind so you're left to fend for yourself and since most models are young and impressionable, they're quite easy to manipulate into killing the Indonesian president.
So it IS true!
Um... Prime Minister of Malaysia.
"...actual impeachment by the full House."
Those goddamn Tanners!
I love models.
Lori Laughlin was hot.
I'll probably stop posting new stuff after this one, just so I dont keep bumping my own thread.
The Death of the CD
The CD is dead and just doesn't know it yet. Sure they will be made by the trillions for a few more years, but it is a dead technology waiting to be buried. Same thing applied to VHS machines and tapes when DVDs came out, the countdown has begun. They will probably be replaced by something similar in shape but there will be some form of increased storage, higher sound quality or more track separation.
Even with that, things will probably migrate to wireless sound coming from your home computer and broadcast to your car.
MP3's
I actually dislike MP3's a great deal. I have some nice home sound equipment and can tell the difference if an MP3 is played versus a CD or high quality sound from a DVD is played. Yea I know the ipod ear bud isn't necessarily intended to be a replacement for my home stereo equipment, but the frequencies removed are noticeable. It's actually kind of sad there is a whole generation of people being raised with music that has had so much removed from the sound quality by the time they hear it.
Britney, Lindsey, Paris, etc
Why, please sweet mother of FN Gawd make it stop. This isn't news, it isn't even entertainment it's just human failure that we watch to avoid dealing with real issues. Here is an idea, put the lot of them on a reality show and each week we vote who gets exiled to Uzbekistan never to be heard from again. We have seen more of them than the average OB/GYN visit would provide. There is no mystery, no intelligence, no talent, it's just trash.
Bottled Water
Look up the term Reverse Osmosis. Then look up the quote "A sucker is born every minute". Now go buy a case of something with a French sounding name for $20 and take it home because you enjoy the taste substantially more than the brand from an aquifer in the South Pacific as opposed to the generic stuff you buy at Costco. Yea, it's probably better than tap water, but so is beer (unless it's Budweiser).
Religion
I will keep this tame so I don't get bounced to the serious forum. But the quote ""…is the opiate of the masses.." by either Groucho Marx or Karl Marx still (I think they are equally funny) plays out to be true. At work I listen to people debate on how their view of religion and god is much better than the leading brands view. What a pointless argument. You can't win, you can't really prove someone that their belief is wrong and you're at work, so do work or something. Next thing you're going to tell me is that god exists because a banana fits into my hand and tastes good.
I have had to tell two separate people that the company does not endorse bible study classes during work hours and they just don't understand why. They tell me, all they want to do is spread the truth. I walk away ashamed for my species some days.
Compressed Air
Its intent is to clean things and blow dust and dirt off stuff. I use it to clean cpu fans, psu fans, graphic cards and things that make a difference to my computer. I don't use it to clean my keyboard. Why, because I can turn the thing upside down over my garbage can and the remnants of corn nuts and potato chips from the prior year fall out. We have to lock the compressed air up at work because people will use an entire can to clean their keyboard. How about this, stop being such a slob and eating corn nuts and potato chips at your desk over your keyboard. Unless you clean up after yourself that is"…
Colorizing Old Movies
My rule would be you can only colorize an old movie if you turn a new one into black and white. Equally ridiculous I know but can we just leave the old movies in the format they were made. Sure, clean up the print to remove scratches from not being stored well, but that's it. I don't need to tune into a colorized version of "It's a Wonderful Life" to make mine that much fuller.
Showing Up To In Interview
If you want the job, you need to look the part. If you want to work at Hot Topic, go ahead, wear the AFI shirt, have some piercings and visible tattoos. If you want the job working in a stuffy office because it might lead to a career and you know the office is run by stuffy old people, then showing up in the Marilyn Manson Hoody with your nose pierced and a neck tattoo is not going to enhance your chances of getting a job. I don't make the rules, but don't be surprised when you don't get the job.
"Life Isn't Fair"
True. Get over it. And remember, fair is relative to the person it isn't really a universal constant. I think it isn't fair I haven't won the lottery. I am sure there are starving people in the world that say it isn't fair "That" country throws so much food away and we are starving.
I hear things like "It's not fair we can't leave early on Friday." I have to respond something along the lines of our customers expect us to be open during the week which pretty much means 8:00 am to 5:00 pm. If we are not there for the customers, then someone else will be. That's just the way it is. "It isn't fair that Bob got a raise and I didn't." Well Bob did all the things he is supposed to do and you have trouble staying at work for five days out of seven.
It isn't fair that people with a lot of money can hire a better attorney than I can to get them out of things I likely would not be able to get out of. Yea, it does suck to see that sometimes. That makes me want to make more money, that's all. Yea, I know the justice isn't blind, but I also know sooner or later no amount of money can get you out of jail. Call it karma if you want, but bad things eventually happen to bad people. It just balances out. That's fair enough. Just because I don't see it happen, doesn't mean it doesn't catch up with them.
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