Hellgate London catch all

BadKen wrote:
necroyeti wrote:

I was happy to see that Best Buy was still selling this for $30 when I was there the other day. Right next to a whole stack of Auto Assault game time cards.

Except you can play Hellgate single player and still enjoy it. Its multiplayer features were never very strong in the first place.

True, but you're also getting a hobbled version of the game that doesn't include any of the cool equipment that was subscriber-only. I take your point, but I think $30 (even in canadian dollars) is a bit much for what you get. Of course, that is Best Buy's problem, not Hanbitsoft or Namco or anyone else, and probably a discussion for another thread anyway.

What was my point again? @[email protected]

necroyeti wrote:
BadKen wrote:
necroyeti wrote:

I was happy to see that Best Buy was still selling this for $30 when I was there the other day. Right next to a whole stack of Auto Assault game time cards.

Except you can play Hellgate single player and still enjoy it. Its multiplayer features were never very strong in the first place.

True, but you're also getting a hobbled version of the game that doesn't include any of the cool equipment that was subscriber-only. I take your point, but I think $30 (even in canadian dollars) is a bit much for what you get. Of course, that is Best Buy's problem, not Hanbitsoft or Namco or anyone else, and probably a discussion for another thread anyway.

What was my point again? @[email protected]

The price is especially bad since I bought it for 20$ at an EB games outside Vancouver.

I wonder if any unofficial HGL fan communities will be able to resurrect the unreleased content as a mod or patch for the singleplayer campaign. For subscribers were the paid content additions also available in the singleplayer campaign?

Irongut wrote:

I wonder if any unofficial HGL fan communities will be able to resurrect the unreleased content as a mod or patch for the singleplayer campaign. For subscribers were the paid content additions also available in the singleplayer campaign?

Nope. Subscriber-only content was online-only as well.

No.. the subscriber-only content was online only. It would be cool if someone could somehow get that stuff and release it for singleplayer... I somehow think that Flagship wouldn't be very litigious about protecting the IP.

nihilo wrote:

No.. the subscriber-only content was online only. It would be cool if someone could somehow get that stuff and release it for singleplayer... I somehow think that Flagship wouldn't be very litigious about protecting the IP.

Hanbitsoft might.

Namco is blocking HanbitSoft from relaunching Hellgate in the US: Link

LobsterMobster wrote:

Namco is blocking HanbitSoft from relaunching Hellgate in the US: Link

I never knew Namco cared so much about my well being.

LobsterMobster wrote:

Namco is blocking HanbitSoft from relaunching Hellgate in the US: Link

Meh.. screw Hellgate. Bring back Mythos, dammit!

Thread necro

Hellgate SP revival was released on Halloween adding many of the multiplayer fetures to single player. They have since patched it.

Get it here if you have any interest.

How do I install?

* Download the Revival SP modification from hellgateaus.net
* Install the launcher (install.exe)
* When prompted by the installer, select the modification package to install. Choose 1 package:

1. sp_revival1.mod.zip - The standard modification.
2. sp_revival1_elite_mod.mod.zip - The standard modification with Elite for Normal mod players mod.

* Follow the prompts to install.
* On success confirmation, use the Unleash Hell! option from the main menu.
* If have have problems launching the program, check the correct DirectX version is chosen.
o Options -> Program Settings -> DirectX version.

New Launcher
Programmed by NiteHawk. Art by Decibel. Music by Sven.

* Automatic character backup
* Automated installation procedure.
* Original configuration restoration.
* Support for multiple modifications.New interface to launch the game.

General Changes

* Changes to the loading screen art.
* Main GUI graphics borrowed from Abyss.
* Censoring removed from monsters in affected regions.
* Luck noticeably affects the quality of drops at increased levels. (Luck caps at 1,000.)
* Sexy Holloway voices are back!

Posters
A new poster rotation and some additions.

Players

* Maximum character level capped at 55 for optimal end game difficulty.
* Melee damage bonus from strength now 3%. (Abyss 2.0 fix.)
* Sprint cool down reduced.

Monsters

* The 5 lies now have first time loot tables and champion loot tables thereafter.
* Shulgoth, Occulis, The Brain, The Beast of Abbadon & Sydonai have all had their loot tables updated.
* 2 bosses have a more monstrous appearance.

Quests

* Quest objectives have been progressively increased and reach a cap of 100 in act 5.
* Better palladium and experience returns for quests.
* 6 common dye kits are awarded between certain quests.
* Joey offers the cube as a reward for 'Joeys Secret'.

Difficulty

*
Mob density in Elite mode increased.
* Optional difficulty modification: Elite mode for normal players.
o Enjoy Elite mode multipliers such as increased champion and mob density while using keeping optimal damage ratio from normal mode.
o This additional package must be installed and Elite mode chosen for this modification to work.

Inventory

*
Inventory increased by x2 and personal stash by x10.
* Most consumable stack sizes increased to 100.
* Scrap stack sizes increased to 10,000.

Vendor and Wares

*
Vendors sometimes sell Unique armor and Weapons at premium prices.
*
Vendors sometimes sell Legendary mods.
* Crates and boxes now only drop Palladium and consumables.
* Legendary augmentations cost multiplier balanced.
* Vendors sell the new items: Grenades, Skill & Attribute Retrainers and Zombot Plans.

* The crafter provides less common items.
*
The crafter and merchant resets every 2 minutes.

Items

*
Maximum augmentations on items 5.
*
Maximum item upgrades 20. (Careful not to nano too high.)

*
Stun Baton (Warts Leg) equitable by all factions.
*
Dye Kit colour sets tweaked.
* Elite and Templar chests drop rare items not found anywhere else.
*
Various Zombot and Fawkes Force Five parts drop throughout the game.
* Sydonai named armour only drops from Sydonai.
* Restoratives now drop randomly throughout Hellgate at half the rate health and power injectors do.
* Increased firing rate of sniper rifles.
* Size of sniper rifles rescaled to realistic sizes.

Mutant Items

Mutant items are the weapons that only drop from named bosses and commonly have the bosses name in the title. It appears these items were originally planned to be marked as Mutant but were instead given legendary quality. In this patch, we have changed these items to Mutant quality, distinguishable by its purple appearance. These items no longer have a low fixed level but scale to character level. There are a total of 6 bosses that drop various Mutant items.

Techsmith Loot

Previously only available from the Mind of 314, these curious items now spawn elsewhere in the game too. Your best chance to find these items though is still the first time through the Mind of 314 in either difficulty. You are not likely to find the items resetting this instance.

* Techsmiths Phlogiston Emitter
* Techsmiths Gyrozooka
* Techsmiths Utility Blade
* Techsmiths Protector
* Techsmiths Odd Glove
* Techsmiths Noxious Effluviator

Retrainers

*
Attribute Retrainer available from the vendor for 500,000.
*
Skill Retrainer available from the vendor for 750,000.

Pets

* Mantrawraith pet drops from a certain boss + 1 rare version.
* Cokomoko pet drops from a certain boss. + 1 rare version.
* Zombot can be assembled if you find all the parts.

Fawkes

* All Hallows Visage and Fawkes Flames Guards now drop from a certain boss.
*
Fawkes Grenades available from the vendor for 150.
*
Zombot plans available from the vendor for 100,000.
* Fawkes Force Five can be constructed with the right parts.

Unlocked Subscriber Uniques

* Gau's Equalizer
* Wargod Rifle
* The Phoenix
* Blessed Revolver
* The Eradicator
* Snakesword
* The One Hundredth Soldier
* Existential Core
* Beryl Dragon
* Voltaic Eel Vat
* Harmonic Suppressor
* Master's Hand

Transmogrifying Cube

* Recipes to create random Ammo, Relics, Rockets, Techs, Fuels & Batteries.
* Recipes to create random Weapons and Armour.
* Recipes to create all sorts of consumables.
* Recipe to create Fawkes Force Five.

Misc

* Fawkes Red Elixir
* Fawkes Black Elixir
* Zombot Blood
* Zombot Organ

Dye Kits

*
Starter Kits
If you pre-ordered Hellgate: London, you received a special code for a starter dye kit. I have provided 2 of these kits for all new starting characters.
o
Lava
o
Wasp
*
Quest Reward Kits
If you choose wisely, you are be able to collect all 6 kits by completing all the quests in both difficulties.
o
Biohazard
o
Nuke
o
Shadows
o
Royal
o
KungFu Bunny
o
Scorched
*
Stonehenge Kits
The data strutures for these dye kits were incomplete in the 1.2 patch. I have reconstructed there items in resemblance to the original Stonehenge versions but tweaked where necessary.
o Black Knight +All Attributes
o Cold Steel +Armor
o Vanquish +Sprint
o Ivory Haze +Base Shields
o Copper Sky +All Elemental Defense
o Indigo Fire +Thorns (Electricity)
o Dark Vengeance +Luck
o Earth Core +Health Regeneration

*
Treasure Kits
These are special uniques kits that have a chance to drop from rare chests. No resemblance to Abyss kits.
o Twilight +Firing Accuracy
o Golden Dragon +Minion Damage, +Minion Armor, +Minion Health
o Blood Pheonix +Total Armor

Release notes:

* Vendors now offer an array of 18 mods.
* Vendors sell better quality mods more often.
* Superior Quests is now an optional package.
* Bugged quests fixed.
* Player cap level 55 implemented correctly.
* Elite chests rolled back to default loot.
* Treasure passageways have been tweaked slightly higher by popular demand.
* Crates sometimes drop Nanoshards.
* You can now drop/destroy all your potatoes.
* A sell price has been attached to spare Zombot parts.
o Zombot Blood: 250
o Zombot Organ: 1,000
o Zombot Ticker: 50,000
* Zombot Plans, Retrainers & Analysers have been reduced in price.
o Zombot Plans: 50,000
o Attribute Retrainer: 200,000
o Skill Retrainer: 300,000
o Analyser: 5
* Zombot Ticker, Treasure Dye Kits & Fawkes Elixers have been moved...

Optional package descriptions:

1. Zomper: Custom fat zombie skin by Tirex. This one is included in the revival_sp_1_0_1.mod.zip package.
2. Elite for Normal Mode: Reduces the difficulty of Elite mode to the same hardness as normal mode but retains the benefits of:
* Increased mob density.
* 4x champion mobs.
* Allows players to swap between Normal/Elite difficulty by uninstalling the mod.
3. Superior Quests: Increases the objective targets of quests by up to 100 and increases experience & palladium.
Quest objective increase overview:
* Act 1: x1
* Act 2: x2
* Act 3: x3
* Act 4: x4
* Act 5: x5

Cool. That's all I was hoping for. If I can clear others in my pile, I'll install Hellgate on my PC again sometime. I enjoyed it when it first came out, but school and time constraints prevented me from delving too deep.

Thanks for the heads-up.

I've been playing Borderlands quite a lot these past few days and I saw you were playing Hellgate on Steam today and I felt like re-installing it. I read a bit about this user created patch and it seems really good! Are there any plans of someone releasing a multiplayer patch for it? It's a shame the game never shipped with LAN support...

Honestly, with Borderlands out, I don't see why people would still want to play HGL. While the settings are understandably different, the actual combat is just orders of magnitude more satisfying in Borderlands, and the loot more impactful.

Good to see the fans working on it. I'm one of those idiots that bought Collector's Edition and the Lifetime account, played for a few weeks, and shelved it thinking I'd be able to come back to it whenever I wanted. Still a bit of impotent rage tied to that purchasing decision.

Yeah I'm in the same boat, jumped on board for a lifetime account hopeful for many future patches.

The creators for the SP patch are planning on making a LAN modification but will probably be at least a year till it is out.

The ranged combat is definitely more satisfying in Borderlands, but I like the melee and pets better in Hellgate. I also like the skill tree options in Hellgate more. Borderlands is overall a much better game and I'll probably have fun with it for years to come, but I am glad Hellgate is getting some fan treatment.

Dysplastic wrote:

Honestly, with Borderlands out, I don't see why people would still want to play HGL. While the settings are understandably different, the actual combat is just orders of magnitude more satisfying in Borderlands, and the loot more impactful.

I still like HGL, and while Borderlands is definitely the better game, there's still gameplay in HGL you can't quite get in Borderlands, primarily with the magic-users.

And I can't afford Borderlands

Arovin wrote:

Thread necro

Hellgate SP revival was released on Halloween adding many of the multiplayer fetures to single player. They have since patched it.

Get it here if you have any interest.

Thanks for posting this and reviving the thread - caused me to pull out my Hellgate disc and reinstall to try it out. Between this and Borderlands, I'm having a ball!

Cymbrogi

All these fixes look really good, and it looks like they did a great, thorough job... but Hellgate just wasn't very fun to me. I don't think these fixes will change that.

And yes, I was a lifetime subscriber. Blind hope makes you do dumb things.

LobsterMobster wrote:

And yes, I was a lifetime subscriber. Blind hope makes you do dumb things. :(

Geez man, waste your blind hope on stuff like dating, not on the important things in life!

LobsterMobster wrote:

All these fixes look really good, and it looks like they did a great, thorough job... but Hellgate just wasn't very fun to me. I don't think these fixes will change that.

And yes, I was a lifetime subscriber. Blind hope makes you do dumb things. :(

I still have high hopes for the universe. And I tend to think that our lifetime subs at least got us some good karma for supporting the devs.

Deadron wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

And yes, I was a lifetime subscriber. Blind hope makes you do dumb things. :(

Geez man, waste your blind hope on stuff like dating, not on the important things in life!

My hope is blind, not retarded!

lethial wrote:

I still have high hopes for the universe. And I tend to think that our lifetime subs at least got us some good karma for supporting the devs. :)

Bill Roper would disagree. He never answered my very polite e-mail.

Hehe, I am sure he didn't even read it, since I am sure he got TONs of "fan" mail over HGL.

Honestly though, I am pissed with the publishers... Actually, not pissed, but frustrated. I am frustrated that somehow the Korean publishers got the rights to the game, and we are left out in the cold.

In my opinion, this is worse than HGL being shut down completely. It feels like we have paid extra to be "made fun" of.

lethial wrote:

Hehe, I am sure he didn't even read it, since I am sure he got TONs of "fan" mail over HGL.

Honestly though, I am pissed with the publishers... Actually, not pissed, but frustrated. I am frustrated that somehow the Korean publishers got the rights to the game, and we are left out in the cold.

In my opinion, this is worse than HGL being shut down completely. It feels like we have paid extra to be "made fun" of. :(

I'm a little frustrated that they pretty much sold everything down to the copper wiring in the walls and made just enough money to keep the executives in the industry, to hell with the rest of the team. In other words, it is offensive to my naive sense of justice that Bill Roper and co. could go on to keep making games while other people lost their jobs due to their decisions.

I guess that's business, though. I'm sure someone will be able to dig up a story about the Hellgate execs doing good by their guys in the last days.

I thought everyone was rehired to work on Torchlight?

lethial wrote:

I thought everyone was rehired to work on Torchlight?

See, there we go.

Very few folks started Runic. I think the Schaeffers and the few that were already up at Flagship Seattle.

I kind of HGL!

LobsterMobster wrote:

In other words, it is offensive to my naive sense of justice that Bill Roper and co. could go on to keep making games while other people lost their jobs due to their decisions.

There's something to be said for hiring failed executives, as they understand that failure is possible and what leads to it.

Some say that the reason Silicon Valley happened in California instead of some other country is because in other countries bankruptcy shames you out of ever being a leader again, while in California it was a badge of honor. Many a successful hi-tech company is led by a former failure.

There's something to be said for hiring failed executives, as they understand that failure is possible and what leads to it.

/nod

There something to be said for having a strong executive team that has experienced a great deal of ups and downs..