The big "How do I choose an HDTV?" thread.

LeapingGnome wrote:

I don't get the chase for brightness. Are you setting up your TV outside or something? I wish more reviews mentioned how DIM the TV can get. Lots of times at night with the lights off, I wish my TV in the living room or bedroom could be even dimmer than the minimum brightness. I don't think I have ever turned brightness up past 60% on any of my TVs, and that is in the middle of the afternoon with sun shining through windows on either side. A very bright TV is a downside to me, not a positive.

Problem is, sometimes the room the TV is in has a ton of windows. Like my great room. Has 4 sliding doors. My bed room has 2 sides of windows...

LG C1 is now setup. Damn that cable is super unfriendly for wall mounting. 90 degree plug is a super pain to pull through the wall and the cable is way shorter than the Vizio. Ended up using an extension cord.

Looking good now. Xbox autodetected and changed some HDR and VRR settings which was nice. Is there an HDMI input that is better than others for gaming?

ccoates wrote:
Balthezor wrote:

Just me, but Vizio TVs crap the fan a lot? My parents TV did and so did my brother in laws. Wizkid and Evildead now have broken ones.

Never owned one myself, but staying away for sure.

To be fair, for the price point of most Vizio's, getting ~5 years out of the set isn't bad.

I got about 6 years out of my Vizio E50-C1 before the panel started flickering. Not bad for $450 in 2015.

Mine was 5 years for $1550. Pretty poor for a mid-high tier TV.

I've found videos showing how to do LED backlight replacement on TCL TVs like mine (and it doesn't even look all that hard), but so far, I haven't been able to source the replacement LED strips I need. My TV is 49" and it seems like all the strips I find are for the 55" and higher models. Feels like I'm just below the "repair instead of replace" threshold. But I'm hoping to track down the right strips somewhere still.

The strips are cheap (if I could find the right one), so I figure, if chucking the thing into e-recycling is the endgame otherwise, why not make an attempt at repair first?

EvilDead wrote:

LG C1 is now setup. Damn that cable is super unfriendly for wall mounting. 90 degree plug is a super pain to pull through the wall and the cable is way shorter than the Vizio. Ended up using an extension cord.

Looking good now. Xbox autodetected and changed some HDR and VRR settings which was nice. Is there an HDMI input that is better than others for gaming?

I think one of the selling points of the LG C1 is that every HDMI port is HDMI 2.1/120hz capable. So they should all be good to go.

On my U7G, only two of the ports are HDMI 2.1. That means when I was using eARC with my soundbar, I had to choose which console would connect to the other available port (very few soundbars right now have 120hz passthrough).

*Legion* wrote:

I've found videos showing how to do LED backlight replacement on TCL TVs like mine (and it doesn't even look all that hard), but so far, I haven't been able to source the replacement LED strips I need. My TV is 49" and it seems like all the strips I find are for the 55" and higher models. Feels like I'm just below the "repair instead of replace" threshold. But I'm hoping to track down the right strips somewhere still.

The strips are cheap (if I could find the right one), so I figure, if chucking the thing into e-recycling is the endgame otherwise, why not make an attempt at repair first?

I don't think the back light went on mine but some other processing board instead. Half the screen went fuzzy while the other half was showing an image then it just stopped turning on all together. The power light doesn't even come on.

Edit: Wasn't hard to find a picture. Maybe it's common with these things. https://www.reddit.com/r/VIZIO_Offic...

I am contemplating taking it into a repair store near me then selling it afterward. I was surprised to hear they still exist.

ccoates wrote:

I think one of the selling points of the LG C1 is that every HDMI port is HDMI 2.1/120hz capable. So they should all be good to go.

On my U7G, only two of the ports are HDMI 2.1. That means when I was using eARC with my soundbar, I had to choose which console would connect to the other available port (very few soundbars right now have 120hz passthrough).

Awesome! Before I had to do some funky stuff. Xbox needed the "gaming" low latency port but I wanted HDR for TV content. Since I went through a receiver that had two outputs I had to use them both. That made getting all the inputs to line up a nightmare when the universal remote IR missed one. Pretty much I was the only person who could fix it when it went out of whack.

EvilDead wrote:

LG C1 is now setup. Damn that cable is super unfriendly for wall mounting. 90 degree plug is a super pain to pull through the wall and the cable is way shorter than the Vizio. Ended up using an extension cord.

Looking good now. Xbox autodetected and changed some HDR and VRR settings which was nice. Is there an HDMI input that is better than others for gaming?

I do think that only some of the ports do eARC and such. My Xbox can turn my TV on and off, which is mostly nice. It's not nice when I want to use my Elite controller on a different Xbox, forget to sync it to that one first (using a USB cable), and end up turning on my downstairs TV.

And Leap, I totally hear you on a too-bright TV. My LG OLED is a bit too bright in a dark room at night.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I do think that only some of the ports do eARC and such. My Xbox can turn my TV on and off, which is mostly nice. It's not nice when I want to use my Elite controller on a different Xbox, forget to sync it to that one first (using a USB cable), and end up turning on my downstairs TV.

And Leap, I totally hear you on a too-bright TV. My LG OLED is a bit too bright in a dark room at night.

OK thanks. Had to look up eARC and will have to check if my receiver even supports it. I have used regular ARC with it before.

Don’t forget those of us with Xbox Series S or X. They have a night mode now.

TheGameguru wrote:

Don’t forget those of us with Xbox Series S or X. They have a night mode now.

They DO? I might need this! I've got one, but had no idea.

Joined the LG C1 owners club today! 65" for $1600 from Costco with a five year warranty. After dialing in some settings the picture is amazing coming from our 8 year old Sony that was top of the line at the time. I haven't tried it with my Series X yet, and I am going to need to upgrade my Roku tomorrow to get a Dolby Vision compatible version.

LeapingGnome wrote:

Joined the LG C1 owners club today! 65" for $1600 from Costco with a five year warranty. After dialing in some settings the picture is amazing coming from our 8 year old Sony that was top of the line at the time. I haven't tried it with my Series X yet, and I am going to need to upgrade my Roku tomorrow to get a Dolby Vision compatible version.

Nice!!!

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

Joined the LG C1 owners club today! 65" for $1600 from Costco with a five year warranty. After dialing in some settings the picture is amazing coming from our 8 year old Sony that was top of the line at the time. I haven't tried it with my Series X yet, and I am going to need to upgrade my Roku tomorrow to get a Dolby Vision compatible version.

Nice!!!

Damn, I paid $1800 a few weeks ago! It was pretty cool when I plugged the series X in and it detected that a I had a new TV and automatically asked to turn on a bunch of supported features (variable refresh rate, HDR..).

Can you try to get a price adjustment? If it was Costco they will do one for 60 days I think.

LeapingGnome wrote:

Can you try to get a price adjustment? If it was Costco they will do one for 60 days I think.

Oh, good Idea. I will check price at my local Costco price.

I'm going to try to get that price match today. Wish me luck!

Edit: That was easy. $212 refunded. Thanks for the suggestion!

Awesome.

LG C1 question: I'm a little confused about game optimizer. Is it a set it and forget it feature (leave it "on") or do I have to keep enabling / disabling between games and movies/TV?

EvilDead wrote:

LG C1 question: I'm a little confused about game optimizer. Is it a set it and forget it feature (leave it "on") or do I have to keep enabling / disabling between games and movies/TV?

The equivalent feature on my Hisense is automatic. I think It's the same on the LG C1.

tl;dr when a specific type of input is detected like a game console, it activates the game mode.

There's some cases where you might not want that to happen, like maybe it detects your PC as a game source or on my PS5 sometimes it seemed like it was activating it during a movie (but I don't have an LG, so that could be firmware/brand specific). But in theory I think it's automatic.

Edit: Oh, maybe I'm wrong. The way it's worded isn't that clear. In the IGN review it says "The first time it senses a game console on a given HDMI input, it automatically allows the settings button on the remote to bring up a special, dedicated gaming menu."

I'm hoping it's like you first described but I have not found a definitive answer either.

Finishing up some redecorating that found the 65" Hinsense U8G moving into the master bedroom, so we needed something for the living room. The LG C2's just came out, but $3,500 vs $2,600 for a 77" C1 means that the latter was the right choice for me, especially since the room it's in doesn't benefit from the panel differences (which I've already forgotten about).

Having it setup and properly wall mounted, it's something else. Like... I love the Hisense we have, and I would have been quite happy with it for a very long time (especially if we had gone larger). Now that I have an OLED in the same house as it, I can see the differences.

Yes, it's amazing, if it's in your budget. And yes, a 77" OLED is pretty absurd by itself. IMAGE(https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/240/joypixels/291/star-struck_1f929.png)

Just took delivery of a Sony Bravia A80J 55 inch.

I mentioned a 2 screen living room setup a while back and my partner's eyes lit up.
We are going to try it McGuiver style first and if it works introduce a video matrix switcher and some dedicated headphone hookups.

Rezzy wrote:

Just took delivery of a Sony Bravia A80J 55 inch.

I mentioned a 2 screen living room setup a while back and my partner's eyes lit up.
We are going to try it McGuiver style first and if it works introduce a video matrix switcher and some dedicated headphone hookups.

I have had a 2 screen living room for almost four years now and it has been really great. Second TV stays off most of the time. Yesterday, when the US Women were playing Haiti and my wife wanted to play Elden Ring, we were both happy. The setup really shines during college football season.

How do you manage sound? Wireless headphones?

LeapingGnome wrote:

How do you manage sound? Wireless headphones?

Believe it or not, everyone else in my family sometimes just plays video games with no sound. I think that's completely bizarre. No one is hearing impaired. I couldn't tell you the number of times I've just walked up and turned the sound on for them (you have to manually wake our sound bar).

And usually if both TVs are in use, they're both for me (sports), so I just manage it however I like. However, yesterday, when useage was split, I had the soccer game sound on at a moderate level. Can't remember whether my wife had the sound on for Elden Ring.

Our TCL LCD in sleep mode sounds like the alien ship from Asteroids when you put your ear right next to it. We think it freaks the cat out. Anyone else experience this? I have no idea if it's been doing it the whole time we've had it.

Do you mean like a high-pitched whine type noise? That is a sign of cheap electronics (aka coil whine) and no real solution other than replace the TV. Sometimes it is even random within the model, so another TV of the same type might not have it.

LeapingGnome wrote:

Do you mean like a high-pitched whine type noise? That is a sign of cheap electronics (aka coil whine) and no real solution other than replace the TV. Sometimes it is even random within the model, so another TV of the same type might not have it.

Not really? It sounds exactly like the alien in Asteroids which isn't that high pitched. It's not loud either. May have always been there. You have to stick your ear right next to it. Might be coil whine.

Some folks are also more sensitive to that type of sound. There's a ton of electronics that give off high pitched buzz, but if I ask friends if they hear it they often think I'm making it up.

Between that and generally having tinnitus it's hard for me to tell, haha.

Yes I am pretty sensitive to buzzing from LEDs and every time I ask my wife, she can’t hear anything.