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I recently picked up the only Nightwish album I was missing and am now looking to branch out a bit. That last album, "Century Child," is now my favorite, one reason being that they finally got a male vocalist that doesn't make me cringe. Figures it'd be Tarja's last.

I like old Metallica but I've also looked into Megadeth (too many CDs, overload!), Evanescence (not bad but it'd be nice if she knew more than one song), and Leaves Eyes (why is it their best song is only available on a single?). I took quick looks at Therion, Dream Theatre and some others but I'm not sure where to start. I don't have a ton of money to spend on music so I like to get a lot of bang for my buck; I'm not looking to buy an album for one good song.

In general, I like complex and technical guitar and good lyrics. Obviously, I'm a big fan of the whole metal/opera mix. I can't stand the screaming and gutteral groaning that seems so prevailent in the genre. I strongly prefer good and discernable melodies to chaotic cat-strangling.

Any recommendations?

Hold on, let me blow the dust off of my CDs.

There we go. For older metal you can try Fear Factory, Sepultura, Static X, Powerman 5000, and if you have really immeresed yourself in this fantasy of rock, you might even be able to handle some Manowar.

There are screaming lyrics, but, you did ask for metal.

For new metal I would just go ahead and refer to old metal.

Dethklok and Dragon Force! Not much else needs to be said, really.

Actually, I'm kind of offhandedly looking for more stuff that sounds like Dethklok but is a little more serious. Anyone know which bands most directly inspired the parody?

You could also check out Tool or The Mars Volta even though they are more well prog rock than metal

Hmmn.. and for some reason iTunes classifies placebo as metal. But only just.

Worth trying out pandora.com with your favourite songs and be surprised what it spits out at you.

I took quick looks at Therion, Dream Theatre and some others but I'm not sure where to start.

Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons, Images & Words, Awake, and Scenes From a Memory. Do not go any later than SFAM
Therion - Theli, Vovin

Some other albums:
Amorphis - Am Universum
Evergrey - Recreation Day
Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade of Gray
The Gathering - Mandylion
Green Carnation - Light of Day, Day of Darkness (this one only has one good song, but it's 60:00 long)
Spiral Architect - A Sceptic's Universe

If you love the bombastic nature of metal/opera, Blind Guardian is probably for you. Get a copy of "Nightfall in Middle Earth"

Even if you hate growly vocals, Opeth and Maudlin of the Well are pretty much required.

I dig classic Anthrax. Very much in the same vein as Metallica, thrash metal-wise, but with more songs about Stephen King novels, and Judge Dredd (waaaaay pre-Dredd movie). Among The Living is the album I'm most familiar with. I do warn that it feels way more dated than good, pre-black album Metallica does, though.

I'm honestly under the impression that there isn't another band out there like Metallica. Their musicianship is second to none in the popular music world, to say nothing of metal - their music is actually interesting as well as butt-kicking.

I should probably check out some Dream Theater some time. I had their first big album back in the day.

I'll Echo Legion on Dream Theatre. Also check out Blind Guardian for some sweet sweet fantasy metal.

If you like Dream Theater, be sure to check out the Jordan Rudess/John Petrucci duet album. I can't remember what it is called but it's all the awsome of DT minus the vocals You will find a similar sound out of their experimental band "Liquid Tension Experiment"

I like white zombie, and was introduced to them from naughty dog's way of the warrior lol. Anyway I liked that album La Sexorcisto: Devil Music, Vol. 1.

Forgive me for stating the obvious, but you might give Ozzy a go, if you haven't already.

To further back up the heaps of praise for Dream Theater, Scenes from a Memory is just about my favorite metal album, ever.

-The Back Horn - "Requiem" (you might have heard it in the Casshern trailer)
-2nd for Green Carnation
-Into Eternity - "Elysium Dream"

It always makes me sad to hear when someone can't bear growling in metal. I didn't like it
at first but eventually I got used to it.
Some bands worth tolerating growling vocals for:
-In Flames
-Amon Amarth
-Gardenian
-Insomnium
-At the Gates

HammerFall - Pick up anything by these guys. I really like them. Good riffs, classic soaring power metal vocals and great fantasy themed lyrics.

Blind Guardian - Kind of old school but some great stuff here too. Very Tolkien driven at times in terms of lyrics.

Chiggie Von Richthofen wrote:

You might even be able to handle some Manowar.

Wow. Do you think he's ready? I mean, can he really handle 'The Crown and the Ring'?

If you're looking for Metal/Opera mix I'll suggest Coheed and Cambria. I guess they fall more into "progressive rock" than "metal" but I'm not entirely clear on the distinction. The lead singer has a high vocal range, which apparently doesn't work well for some people.
I recommend their most recent album, "Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV: Volume 1: From Fear Through The Eyes Of Madness," but they're all good. Each album tells one part of a continuing story.
And I'll stop there, you can find out more if you're interested.

Scaphism wrote:

The lead singer has a high vocal range, which apparently doesn't work well for some people.

<-------------- understatement of the year

When I saw them open for...someone...people were heckling them. That was before they hit the really big-time.

As I have said, but not in a longtime:

Rush = progressive classic hard rock
Dream Theater = progressive operatic metal
Coheed and Cambria = progressive punk/emo (say what you like, they are very clearly part of that scene)

I'm not trying to push it on anyone, but when people say they're interested in "Opera/Metal" I first think of Dream Theatre and then think of Coheed and Cambria.

To remain constructive you might check out some early Grinspoon, an aussie rock band. Their early stuff is pretty metal - influenced by Helmet and the like.

Some other pretty good female fronted metal bands:
Within Temptation (similar to Nightwish)
Lacuna Coil (this is the band that Evanscence pretty much ripped off)

If you've only just loooked into Megadeth, you should start with Rust in Peace. Countdown to Extinction and Youthenasia are a little more radio-oriented, but still pretty killer.

Anthrax is worth looking into, but be aware that the old stuff has a different singer and a very different sound, so if you like 80's Anthrax, 90's Anthrax may not appeal to you and vice versa. Among the Living and Persistence of Time are my faves from the old (Joey Belladonna) material. Sound of White Noise and We're Coming For You All are my faves of the new stuff.

Dream Theater is worth checking out for the instrumental pyrotechnics, but the singer is not everyone's cup of tea. He's not operatic exactly...more like pseudo operatic. I tend to agree with Legion's assessment of their discography, but I'd cut it off before SFaM.

I'd suggest Strapping Young Lad, but it might be a little out there for you. Devin Townsend, the band's leader, has done some great work though, and his Ocean Machine album is pretty much essential listening. Once that sinks in a little, check out Strapping Young Lad's City album and see if that doesn't BLOW YOUR F*CKING MIND. Also, any band that makes a video based on Evil Dead 2 scores big points in my book.

A smalltime Eugene band called Floater had a couple of albums - Sink and Glyph - that were really fantastic. Intelligent lyrics, interesting instrumentation, cool melodies and excellent use of obscure movie samples.

I haven't heard much of their newer stuff, but you can hear tracks on iTunes, CDBaby, and their official website, www.floatermusic.com

I'm suggesting you check out The American Tragedy. They're a really awesome band from Shreveport, LA. They have really clean vocals, excellent guitar work and they throw down a good beat. You can pick up their albums on CD Baby. Their latest, "Welcome to the Show" is really fantastic.

Scaphism wrote:

To remain constructive you might check out some early Grinspoon, an aussie rock band. Their early stuff is pretty metal - influenced by Helmet and the like.

Helmet is the bomb. Or was the bomb, up to and including Betty. Aftertaste, and their recent pitiful resurrection, we don't talk about.

I shall agree with this man, for he speaks wisely:

*Legion* wrote:

Therion - Theli, Vovin
If you love the bombastic nature of metal/opera, Blind Guardian is probably for you. Get a copy of "Nightfall in Middle Earth"

I'll also recommend Dark Tranquillity, because I just f*cking love them, been at two concerts so far. Try downloading "The Gallery" or "Punish My Heaven", those two songs are awesome. It's growling vocals so maybe not for you, but you need to check them out.

I don't like Dream Theater at all. The guitar is awesome, but nothing seems to click for me, it gets boring after a while(Note: I only heard their album Scenes from a Memory). I actually prefer some "Symphony X" songs.

Coheed and Cambria are great too, but not metal, more of a rock thing. It's a bit scary that I just found out that the singer is male... >_>

If you like Hammerfall, check out Falconer - "The Clarion Call", Warcry - "Alejandro"(Spanish metal, but cool), and Mago de Oz - "Hasta que el Cuerpo aguante". (These are just the song names, if you like them you can buy the whole album).

Mago de Oz has a guy called Jorge Salan who is just three tons of awesome guitar playing, pleeease download a song of his called "Running Free", it's just so great.

If you enjoy any of those, be sure to check out ANGRA, brazilian metal. I love their song called Nothing to say.

Anyway, I love music, all kinds, so if you enjoyed any of these, come back and tell me, and you guys keep recommending stuff.

Podunk wrote:

I tend to agree with Legion's assessment of their discography, but I'd cut it off before SFaM. :)

I could see that. I like SFAM but it definitely toed the line of silliness. It wasn't until the next album that it exceeded my threshold, but I have no problem understanding SFAM exceeding someone else's threshold. Once Kevin Moore (the voice of sanity) left the band, there was no longer someone present in the band to say, "Guys, don't do that".

I really like Don Caballero, and while not being "metal" per se, they certainly get heavy.

FeralPug wrote:

I really like Don Caballero, and while not being "metal" per se, they certainly get heavy.

DonCab is cool, as are other "math-rock" bands. I really like Turing Machine.

I'll stand behind Legion's recommendation of Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade of Gray. Progressive rock/metal at its best and one of my favorite CD's of all time.

I would of course be remiss if I did not metion Operation: Mindcrime by Queensryche. If you have not heard that album and enjoy progressive metal, you owe it to yourself to pick it up.

Another progressive metal band that has an incredible library of amazing music is Savatage. They are also the band behind Trans-Siberian Orchestra, if you enjoy Christmas music with a bit of a rock edge to it.

From a more metal perspective, I would highly recommend The Chemical Wedding by Bruce Dickinson, which is dark and heavy and tops anything ever done by Maiden in my opinion.

*Legion* wrote:

Once Kevin Moore (the voice of sanity) left the band, there was no longer someone present in the band to say, "Guys, don't do that".

That's my take as well. If you've even checked out Kevin's Chroma Key albums, you've got a pretty good idea about what happened to everything that was dark and atmospheric about Dream Theater.

Copingsaw wrote:

Another progressive metal band that has an incredible library of amazing music is Savatage. They are also the band behind Trans-Siberian Orchestra, if you enjoy Christmas music with a bit of a rock edge to it.

I don't respect any twenty-something (or thirty-something) man that does not rock Trans-Siberian Orchestra during the holiday season.

*Legion* wrote:

DonCab is cool, as are other "math-rock" bands. I really like Turing Machine.

Also cool in that vein:

Dysrhythmia
Botch
Dillinger Escape Plan

Though Botch and DEP are really more math-core, I guess.

Hey, what about Prototype? They've got a cool fusion of old Metallica-style thrash and Rush-esque prog. They're cool guys too.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Off I go to search!

Copingsaw wrote:

Another progressive metal band that has an incredible library of amazing music is Savatage. They are also the band behind Trans-Siberian Orchestra, if you enjoy Christmas music with a bit of a rock edge to it.

!Did not know! Very interesting.

But one question: when are they coming out with a Trans-Siberian Orchestra's Greatest Hits albums that includes just the rocking, truly Christmasy stuff, and excludes all the grandfatherly-singing junkola? There's like 2 good songs on the one album I have.

Desram wrote:

It always makes me sad to hear when someone can't bear growling in metal. I didn't like it at first but eventually I got used to it.
Some bands worth tolerating growling vocals for:
-In Flames
-Amon Amarth
-Gardenian
-Insomnium
-At the Gates

::nodnod:: I couldn't stand the Cookie Monster death grunt for a long time, but Killswitch Engage, In Flames, and lately Amon Amarth have changed my mind. If you're into prog and can stand a little silliness, check out dir en grey. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here - I know you're an anime fan anyway, so I'm sure you're familiar with them - but I can't recommend them enough.

Slayer, man. Pure and simple. Metal with a punk feel. over 20 years now and they still kick booty.

While they may not be the most melodic band around, the music is tight and the lyrics are well written, unless they are from Tom Araya who apparantly likes "Sifting Spirits" in his songs. Kerry King is the driving force behind the music and lyrics lately, though, so the band is in pretty good hands.

NO opera to be found in it, though.

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