Zune?

Just asking, but why should I want a Zune?

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see a compelling alternative to the iPod, and maybe eventually the Zune can speak to my (still hypothetical) 360 or something, but given the current announcements, I feel no urge to switch to Zune.

Is anyone interested in this?

For myself, no. However, competition is always good. Too bad they have a long way to go to beat the iPod "cool" factor.

I'm waiting for the retail product before making judgement. It does have some advantages over the iPod such as larger screen (but equals larger size) and supports DRMed WMA files (if you're tied into that).

I'm waiting for Service Pack 2 for the Zune, before I buy it.....

Not even slightly. The Zune wraps DRM around anything you put on it, even files with no DRM or Creative Commons licensed files.

Want to share something you made over WiFi with the Zune? Tough cookies, it applies a 3 days/3 plays DRM scheme to it, no matter what.

Down with DRM!

Follow up on Ars Technica.

So if the Zune doesn't modify files, does it still apply 3 days/3 plays to anything you share with it, including CC-licensed files and homemade recordings?

Still a no-buy for me at this point.

Yeah I was interested in this until the DRM bomb dropped..

After reading this.. Zune is going to be a spectacular failure.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/features/...

Bleh.. the problem with making your "feature" be dependent on OTHERS having a Zune and be willing to keep wifi on (at least semi on) is that well.. you have to have others who also bought the damn thing.

SocialChameleon wrote:

Not even slightly. The Zune wraps DRM around anything you put on it, even files with no DRM or Creative Commons licensed files.

Want to share something you made over WiFi with the Zune? Tough cookies, it applies a 3 days/3 plays DRM scheme to it, no matter what.

It only applies DRM to a file you transfer over WiFi. It is basically the same as an iPod but with DRM WiFi. Until other players add WiFi it is the only option out there with the ability to transfer music wirelessly.

Edit: I'm in no way pro DRM. I despise the fact that every time my iPod hiccups when I'm on the road I have to wait to re-sinc it with itunes to play my audiobooks.

The more I read the less interested I become...

My feeling is the device's full worth won't be realized until it has been hacked. Then things will become more interesting.

Not zune enough.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh, sorry, couldn't resist.
PA had a funny bit on it today.

Hehe, not zune enough, I crack myself up!

Engadget had a re-design the zune contest.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/10/e...

Part of me holds out hope that there will be some cool 360 integration with it in which case I'll probably end up buying it...but that may be just me dreaming.

Edwin wrote:

Engadget had a re-design the zune contest.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/10/e...

And the one that won looks almost exactly like a real Zune? Am I missing something?

And I'm with you on "down with DRM!" I do not pirate music, I buy it, but DRM still turns me off - to the point that it's a dealbreaker. Even though I'm doing things "the right way", the existence of DRM annoys me. It forced me to get an open-source CD ripper to rip a Sony CD that iTunes couldn't - a CD that I bought, and simply wanted to put on my iPod (aka the most popular music player in the world, brainiacs).

DRM drives away legitimate users and can't stop pirates. Great concept.

I buy it

No, you don't. You buy a license to listen to it. Technically.

You buy a license to listen to it. Technically.

Zune you won't be able to buy anything!

LOL.. i don't know if that will ever get old!

duckilama wrote:
I buy it

No, you don't. You buy a license to listen to it. Technically.

You're purchasing both. If you were purchasing only the license, then the physical copy (CD) would have no value and would be replaceable free-of-charge by the record company, distributor, or whoever. As far as I know, they do not do this (but should IMO).

So, did anyone ever buy one and have impressions to share?

Someone must've. They sold a million of them. Or so they claim.

What I've read summed up: Player is good, pc software is crappy.

If I was Astronaut rich I'd buy that Halo 3 Zune just for the cool stuff that came with it.

I love my zune. Despite the crappy software (which has gotten way better with updates) the zune has an awesome subscription plan that I hope Apple adopts one day

zune library needs more songs still

Have you had any more luck GG finding anyone using the wifi features?

LeapingGnome wrote:

Have you had any more luck GG finding anyone using the wifi features?

lol no! that one time on the subway in NYC and then never again.. I've never even see another Zune outside one of the guys I work with.

TheGameguru wrote:

...the zune has an awesome subscription plan that I hope Apple adopts one day

zune library needs more songs still

That's one of the things I'm hung up on. I'm also in the minority that likes a subscription service, but most of the subscription players out there have poor UIs compared to the iPod.

Kurrelgyre wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

...the zune has an awesome subscription plan that I hope Apple adopts one day

zune library needs more songs still

That's one of the things I'm hung up on. I'm also in the minority that likes a subscription service, but most of the subscription players out there have poor UIs compared to the iPod.

Agreed.. and furthermore.. I've used Rhapsody with the fairly decent Sandisk MP3 players and got frustrated with the constant DRM errors despite repeated synching and reformatting the mp3 player. The Zune was the first to get it perfect.. despite the rough start the Zune Software is very nice and has some features I wish Itunes would adopt.

The Sansa "Rhapsody" branded players do work pretty much flawlessly. I can't say much about the other models, though.

I can't see "Sansa" without thinking that I might wake up one morning to find that it had turned into a giant insect.

Kurrelgyre wrote:

The Sansa "Rhapsody" branded players do work pretty much flawlessly. I can't say much about the other models, though.

yeah.. I had the model right before they went to Rhapsody branded.