Low-end Gaming Rig

So my current PC has officially overheated too many times and fried itself. AFAIK the hard disk and optical are still fine. Mobo and/or cpu and/or memory are too old/fried and the video card is terribly obsolete.

So I've been looking at some OEM builders and new egg prices. I found a place called Velocity Micro that comes highly recommended by Hard|OCP. I'm looking at either this guy, with the better geforce 7600, plus an extra gig of ram off newegg, or this guy, with the 2 gigs and picking up a seperate eVGA Geforce 7900GT on sale.
The second option comes in a little cheaper overall, but I won't have the option of SLI in the future. I'm not a very picky graphics person. I want things to be fast and responsive, but not absolutely gorgeous. I'd rather have stable than pretty. I want to stay under $1300, and I don't care about hard drive space at all, since I have a practically brand new 160gb disk now and am not any kind of crazy audio/videophile.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Skip it and go to Alienware? Know a better OEM builder?
Thanks guys!

Wow.. those both are way overpriced for the compenents involved.. its pretty easy to build your own PC out of components.. so perhaps give that a choice?

TheGameguru wrote:
Wow.. those both are way overpriced for the compenents involved.. its pretty easy to build your own PC out of components.. so perhaps give that a choice?

Last time I did that I ended up with a rig that overheated constantly and I couldn't find/build an adequate cooling solution. I'd prefer to avoid the hassle and buy something that's been built and tested properly. And those prices are much better than comparable alienware setups.

Mixolyde wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Wow.. those both are way overpriced for the compenents involved.. its pretty easy to build your own PC out of components.. so perhaps give that a choice?

Last time I did that I ended up with a rig that overheated constantly and I couldn't find/build an adequate cooling solution. I'd prefer to avoid the hassle and buy something that's been built and tested properly. And those prices are much better than comparable alienware setups.

I cant imagine why... just make sure you get a nice roomy case with at least one intake and one exhaust fan. Given enough room inside the case you should never have an overheating problem..

unless of course you dont install teh CPU fan correctly..

I know Pigpen had issues with his ibuypower rig. I do agree with Guru that the seem a little expensive for what you get.

That said, I doubt the [H] guys would bless a crappy system.

I am definitely with Guru on this one. The first machine that I built was a mess like you describe. However, as you go along you will definitely get better at it. Like GG said, Get a big roomy case and with plenty of fans and you will be fine. My current rig runs cool as a cucumber, runs all the new games, and I only spent about $500. Also, I would stay away from OEM hardware if you are still a little unsure of what you are doing. There are a lot of necessary things that come along retail products. They can, however, be bought separately if you know what you are doing. Newegg is your friend.

TheGameguru wrote:
Mixolyde wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Wow.. those both are way overpriced for the compenents involved.. its pretty easy to build your own PC out of components.. so perhaps give that a choice?

Last time I did that I ended up with a rig that overheated constantly and I couldn't find/build an adequate cooling solution. I'd prefer to avoid the hassle and buy something that's been built and tested properly. And those prices are much better than comparable alienware setups.

I cant imagine why... just make sure you get a nice roomy case with at least one intake and one exhaust fan. Given enough room inside the case you should never have an overheating problem..

unless of course you dont install teh CPU fan correctly..

And use artic silver (or whatever the best heat sink compound is these days). The default stuff on most heat sink fans sucks

Well, if I had the time and energy to build my own PC again, I would. But A) I've done it at work enough B) I'm in the middle of buying a house and C) I can afford to pay for convenience. As the goblins say, 'Time is money, friend.' And I feel my time is better spent than dealing with thermal compound, fans, wiring, heatsinks, drivers, POST issues and all else. That's someone else's hobby, not mine.

I'm not trying to be rude...wait, yes, I am. Thank you for not answering my questions and for trying to push your personal PC purchasing style onto someone who wasn't asking for it.

Mixolyde wrote:
Well, if I had the time and energy to build my own PC again, I would. But A) I've done it at work enough B) I'm in the middle of buying a house and C) I can afford to pay for convenience. As the goblins say, 'Time is money, friend.' And I feel my time is better spent than dealing with thermal compound, fans, wiring, heatsinks, drivers, POST issues and all else. That's someone else's hobby, not mine.

I'm not trying to be rude...wait, yes, I am. Thank you for not answering my questions and for trying to push your personal PC purchasing style onto someone who wasn't asking for it.

You got it.. never again will I invade your threads..

That being said.. Velocity Micro has better than average reputation for building quality PC's so I wouldnt hesitate to purchase a system from them... other than I'd probably change out the processor for a dual core solution and certainly go with an Nforce SLI motherboard over a non SLI.

TheGameguru wrote:
That being said.. Velocity Micro has better than average reputation for building quality PC's so I wouldnt hesitate to purchase a system from them... other than I'd probably change out the processor for a dual core solution and certainly go with an Nforce SLI motherboard over a non SLI.

That was what I was looking for. Thanks GG.

It seemed like this thread was gonna curtail into one of those things where you ask a windows question and get "Install Linux" as an answer. I figured a little abruptness would head that off. It's not that I can't build my own, I'm just choosing not to, and looking for advice on a different option. Building your own PC is only cheaper if you don't value your time, and despite what your friends may have told you, I'm not cheap!

Mixolyde wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
That being said.. Velocity Micro has better than average reputation for building quality PC's so I wouldnt hesitate to purchase a system from them... other than I'd probably change out the processor for a dual core solution and certainly go with an Nforce SLI motherboard over a non SLI.

That was what I was looking for. Thanks GG.

It seemed like this thread was gonna curtail into one of those things where you ask a windows question and get "Install Linux" as an answer. I figured a little abruptness would head that off. It's not that I can't build my own, I'm just choosing not to, and looking for advice on a different option. Building your own PC is only cheaper if you don't value your time, and despite what your friends may have told you, I'm not cheap!

I hear ya. I value my time very highly, which is why I build my own. Monkeying around with computer hardware is really enjoyable to me. I only get do it once every year or two and it is probably the most rewarding aspect of my computing hobby. Obviously you don't feel the same way. To each his own.

Good luck with the new system!

I hear ya. I value my time very highly, which is why I build my own. Monkeying around with computer hardware is really enjoyable to me. I only get do it once every year or two and it is probably the most rewarding aspect of my computing hobby.
Ditto. It may seem insane to some people, but I actually enjoy doing the research/shopping, fighting through the inevitable faulty/substandard part, and trying to understand the incomprehensable Engrish instruction manuals. To me, knowing exactly what is in my PC and that I gave it life, so to speak, is worth the time I spend.

That being said, after having to RMA memory for the second build in a row, a new working Dell is sounding better and better.

Well, I like to know what's going in my box and have all the manuals around too. Which is why I'm looking at places like Velocity. They just save a lot of the headache. I don't need a screaming system, just a stable work horse that will play WoW without blowing up. So I've just gotta ask myself whether SLI is something that I'm going to wish I had in the next 3-4 years.

Get the Velocity Micro and then install Linux.

Mixolyde wrote:
Well, I like to know what's going in my box and have all the manuals around too. Which is why I'm looking at places like Velocity. They just save a lot of the headache. I don't need a screaming system, just a stable work horse that will play WoW without blowing up. So I've just gotta ask myself whether SLI is something that I'm going to wish I had in the next 3-4 years.

I know you don't want to build your own from scratch, but have you considered a mobo/cpu bundle of even a barbones setup. Monarchcomputers will install the CPU of your choice on the MB of your choice with your selected heatsink option and then ship it to ya. If your hesistant to mess with the CPU it might be worth looking into. Or if you really wanna save time you can have them put the above into a case, then you just move over your drives and a new vid card, presto chango new computer. Then you can install linux on it.

http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...

Monarch will build your full system too. Prices are marginally more than Newegg. ($5 here, $10 there)

The only thing stopping me from ordering from them last time was the up to 10 day build time.

I figured having my computer finished in 2 days was worth doing it myself.

Minase wrote:
To me, knowing exactly what is in my PC and that I gave it life, so to speak, is worth the time I spend.

I like the part where I finish getting my system built, hit the power switch, and then I put my arms out and stagger around the living room moaning like a zombie, followed by insane cackling. "It's alive! It's aliiiiiiive!!! MWA HA HAH HAH HAAAA!!!!"

...what, you guys don't do that?

For the record, Mixo, my own pc finally gave up the ghost last week, and I didn't have the time to spend acquiring a bunch of parts and building it myself, not to mention my computer tech job has me so tired and stressed that the last thing I really want to do is slave over a pc at home right now. So I bought a cheap Gateway with a decent component base and just added the parts I needed from what I could salvage of the old pc and a few new parts. *shrugs* I had to buy a new graphics card since I didn't have a PCI-X one yet.

Worth noting that Newegg is nowhere near the cheap end of components markeplace anymore, anyway.

Worth noting that Newegg is nowhere near the cheap end of components markeplace anymore, anyway.
So where is the cheap stuff, o wise primate?

I ended up with the low-end 'home office' rig from Velocity and the eVGA GeForce 7900 GT from newegg on special. The box is being assembled as we speak. Should arrive in a couple days. Thanks for the input guys!