Best current AGP card?

A friend is looking to upgrade his video card and only has AGP not PCI-E. Which is the best AGP card out there right now?

I think only NVidia Mfg.s higher end AGP cards.

there is the 7800GS(16 pipelines and older architecture) and soon the 7600 GS is coming out for agp (12 pixel pipeline newer architecture).

If your friend has an AMD processor with a 939 slot he can get a motherboard that supports PCI-E without needing a new processor and memory . He can also have an option of a dual slot ( ASROCK agp/pci slot) motherboard. The PCI-E cards are just better value.

Your friend should start considering a new system AGP systems are getting old faster now . AMD is changing their slots from 939 to AM2 and moving to DDR2 which will phase out DDR1 in a year or two . Intel is changing their processor architectiure(and motherboards in the process) and it looks promissing (Conroe beat AMD FX60's in most benchmarks). the new processors are schedualed for July . Intel also started to price down their processors making them more atractive.

...cut short...

Danke.

X1800XT is the highest end ATI AGP card.. 7800GS on the Nvidia Side.

I recently upgraded and found that it was about the same price to switch to a motherboard that supported PCI-e than it was to buy the AGP card with the same name. However, as Niseg mentioned, your friend may not have a chipset that is supported by any PCI-e motherboards.

My question: is the PCI-e x1800XT a better card than the AGP x1800XT?

Good question. I am interested in this stuff too. Too lazy to upgrade my entire m/b.

X1800XT is the highest end ATI AGP card.. 7800GS on the Nvidia Side.

X850XT is the fastest AGP card from ATI that can actually be bought.

EDIT4: Ok I was wrong, its the x1600

EDIT5: No it looks like X850XT is faster. What the f*ck, I'm confused.

I'd stick with PS3.0 support IF your going to bother getting a new AGP card.. honestly with PCIe motherboards going for $60ish on the low end its probably worth it long run to simply get a new MB.

I found an AGP X850XT used (but recertified by manufacturer) for $219 and ordered it. Wonder how much faster it will be than my 9700Pro. I am tired of juggling graphics settings in MMORPGs.

Well my work buddy is a dork, I guess he got a Dell 24" screen and 'wants to push it' but the only game he plays is WoW. I don't know what his current card is and told him the new card may make WoW look better but it won't push the graphics system like HL2 or newer FPS would.

WoW looks dramatically better with full anisotropy and antialiasing in 1600x1200, and having the distance slider cranked all the way up can bring any computer to its knees. Not to mention unchecking "level of detail" which would turn off the dynamic polygon reducer.

Plus, going to Ironforge or even having a big raid will impart tremendous performance impact, with several dozen of people on the screen (and the rest of the options cranked up).

Eezy_Bordone wrote:

Well my work buddy is a dork, I guess he got a Dell 24" screen and 'wants to push it' but the only game he plays is WoW. I don't know what his current card is and told him the new card may make WoW look better but it won't push the graphics system like HL2 or newer FPS would.

beat him up and take the monitor... if he doesn't know he needs a high end PCI-E card to run that he doesn't deserve it!

My SLI'd 7900GTX's struggle with WoW at 2560X1600 on my 30" LCD with everything maxxed out when there is a ton of AE on screen in MC. Other than that it runs perfectly and looks incredible.. The WoW engine may not be fancy but it really looks great with high resolution and AA/AF.. like a highly detailed cartoon.

TheGameguru wrote:

My SLI'd 7900GTX's struggle with WoW at 2560X1600 on my 30" LCD with everything maxxed out...

I mean, I know it's GG, but damn.

I bought two ATI x850 platinums from MWAVE.

I have not been dissapointed.

They support 4x and 8x AGP, throttling down or up after auto-sensing.

I have an 8x system and a 4x system and noticed a slight performance edge in the 8x system.

They use the ATI Catalyst drivers, which get updated quite often.

My used X850 arrived and it is defective. I don't think it's been "tested by manufacturer" as NewEgg claims. It hangs 1 second after going into a 3D application. I tried all the standard things. They better let me send it back.

Since I can't find brand-new X850 series for a SANE price, I went for

TheGameguru wrote:

7800GS on the Nvidia Side.

which can be found for at 70 bucks cheaper. That, and ATI's "Catalyst Control Center" is a memory-hogging disaster which has been bugging me for quite some time. You just don't write bloated, .NET-using-for-no-reason, leaving-multiple-copies-of-self-in-memory stuff like this for a graphics card control panel. It's wrong.

which can be found for at 70 bucks cheaper. That, and ATI's "Catalyst Control Center" is a memory-hogging disaster which has been bugging me for quite some time. You just don't write bloated, .NET-using-for-no-reason, leaving-multiple-copies-of-self-in-memory stuff like this for a graphics card control panel. It's wrong.

Agreed.. ATI's "new" control panel is a mess and has been for ages.. shame because the X1900XTX I'm using in my office PC is really nice.. better AF/AA and IQ than Nvidia (no shimmering ftw) without SLI... One day I'll give crossfire a shot and see how well it works (or doesnt)

Sadly the new 9X Forceware from Nvidia is moving to a new control panel as well.. and its not good.. more like ATI's but at least without the .net crap (from what I can tell)

At least you can revert back to the original CP for now...

Wow, that is kinda sad to learn that even in 7xxx series Nvidia cards still have the typical AA flaws present since GeForce 1. Dare I hope they at least improved their video overlay stretching quality ? Sigh.

Now you made me un-suppress the memory of ATI always having superior AA and video playback... and I worked so hard to suppress it to justify my Nvidia purchase... damn you

Play everything in High Quality (you'll see the generic slider in the Nvidia CP) that helps with much of the shimmies that you'll normally see..at of course lower frame rates.

But even then its obvious to the eye that ATI is still better with IQ.