Bye Bye Johnny

Johnny Damon left the Red Sox to join the most evil team in all the world... the New York Yankees! He will def. be shaving his beard and cutting his hair.

Oh Christ why? Now he's going to bat .250 and be horrendous.

I thought there was a basic rule to the rivalry. Don't buy opposing players who played key roles in your downfall at one point or another. We hate them lotses. Unless, of course, you're buying their star player to get one over on them, and since Johnny Damon doesn't look like David Ortiz, plah.

$52M over four years isn't the worst contract deal ever, but it's still pretty damn big, and i'll be my behind that Damon's going to turn in a painfully lacklustre season next year.

It's hard to watch baseball these days. The Yankees buy a team every year that no one can quite compete with, especially now that it seems Boston has given up on the chase. I'm not saying that no one else can win the series, but the Yankees being the clear favorite year after year (after year) gets old.

That, and the fact that there's a five minute delay between pitches.

Wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooo! Welcome, Johnny

Although I agree it's too bad he'll have to cut his hair and shave. Although we all have to do that when we graduate and get a real job.

I think the Yankees should change their name to "George Steinbrener's Checkbook".

I'm not saying that no one else can win the series, but the Yankees being the clear favorite year after year (after year) gets old.

Unless you are a Yankees fan.

Damn them for trying to win every year!!

You know what I find tired... Red Sox fans bitching about the Yankees.. given the contracts the Sox gave to their new signs..

JimmDogg wrote:
I'm not saying that no one else can win the series, but the Yankees being the clear favorite year after year (after year) gets old.

Unless you are a Yankees fan.

Damn them for trying to win every year!!

Not really Damn them.

But, as I have said before, I think MLB suffers as a result of the relative lack of competition.

I don't think anyone would disagree with the fact that football is better for it's salary cap. You still get teams that go on streaks of good seasons, but there is an ebb and flow, not a constant dynasty thing. I for one prefer that.

**Disclaimer** I'm a BoSox fan

I don't think anyone would disagree with the fact that football is better for it's salary cap. You still get teams that go on streaks of good seasons, but there is an ebb and flow, not a constant dynasty thing. I for one prefer that.

I dunno...its probably only partially related to the cap.. but I prefer the days of pre-cap football over football now...

I'm sure its also Free Agency..Expansion and all the rules changes and the general wussiness of the league too though.. (I saw a roughing the passer this weekend on a QB getting pushed down)

Even though the Eagles stunk and couldnt compete with the big teams.. I enjoyed watching the dynasty's and really good teams play football.. too many subpar teams these days.

I mean.. do we really need teams in some of these cities?? Arizona? Tampa Bay?, Jacksonville? Tenn.?

I think if we chopped off 4 teams from each league the talent pool would be much nicer spread.

There were a lot more subpar teams before the salary cap. You didn't get tired of "Pittsburg or Dallas this year"?

I respect your opinion, but I'm mildly surprised. I prefer the diversity from year to year, and I like to see new teams emerge as contenders every season or 2.

I think the negatives with football are free agency and pass-happy (offense-happy, really) rules. Free agency isn't too bad, but it increases player mobility in the league, which I think reduces the fan's attachement to players on the team. Who knows if the guy will be there next year? And there's something about a trade versus just plain leaving for more money that leaves a bad taste in this fan's mouth. Again, free agency doesn't strike me as a big evil, but it is a modest negative (call it a probably necessary evil.)

The thing that bugs me are the rules changes over the last few years. I understand the roughing the passer/ throwing away the ball rules are supposed to protect the QB, but they don't seem to be working very well and they detract from the game. And the whole thing where the secondary gets called for breathing too hard on the receivers drives me crazy. It's like the NFL decided that running the ball was too boring, so henceforth we will make you pass and pass. I swear that some plays get called largely in the hopes of drawing a pass interference call.

Complaints aside, though, football and hockey are the only two sports I really enjoy watching.

SwampYankee wrote:

There were a lot more subpar teams before the salary cap. You didn't get tired of "Pittsburg or Dallas this year"?

I respect your opinion, but I'm mildly surprised. I prefer the diversity from year to year, and I like to see new teams emerge as contenders every season or 2.

Thats why I said its probably only partially related to the Salary Cap... I think if you removed a bunch of the other things I mentioned and still had the cap I'd be perfectly happy.

I mean.. do we really need teams in some of these cities?? Arizona? Tampa Bay?, Jacksonville? Tenn.?

Wow. Those are fighting words. I think that any Super Bowl winner should be exempt from contraction talk. How did Tampa make your "list" and not St. Louis. Contract the Eagles!!

Swampy, trying being a Devil Ray fan. I would like to see the division alignment change to match the financial standings of the teams. Tampa should not be in a division with Baltimore, Boston and New York. Put all the small market teams in the same division.

As a "Large Market" team fan , JD, I would rather have revenue sharing and salary caps, so that Tampa Bay could afford to build a contending team.

The Sox have the cash, but their brains are gone now (Epstein), and for the life of me I can't figure out what the hell they are doing to my team or why!!!!

Wow. Those are fighting words. I think that any Super Bowl winner should be exempt from contraction talk. How did Tampa make your "list" and not St. Louis. Contract the Eagles!!

I'm no trying to insult people here just being realistic.. Besides most of the towns that have NFL teams are doing just fine in terms of revenue and attendance thanks to the incredible TV and rev sharing deals.

It's not about money but rather what would be good for the game.

People who know more about baseball than I do tell me that they suspect Epstein saw the writing on the wall ("We've decided to dismantle our team because the Pirates, for all that they suck, make more money than we do") and said, "Screw this! I'm outta here."

I'm no trying to insult people here just being realistic.. Besides most of the towns that have NFL teams are doing just fine in terms of revenue and attendance thanks to the incredible TV and rev sharing deals.
It's not about money but rather what would be good for the game.

I guess I can see your point, but I don't agree.

Tampa has a 100,000 person waiting list for season tickets. They are not a franchise that should even be considered, even in speculation. Contract New Orleans!!

As a "Large Market" team fan , JD, I would rather have revenue sharing and salary caps, so that Tampa Bay could afford to build a contending team.

I would prefer that too, but I don't think that will ever happen. Now the Devil Rays, I could see being contracted. It's just retarded to even try to field a team for 30 million in the AL East.

princesspeach wrote:

Bye Bye Johnny's Hair

Fixed. And so go Samson's hair, so goes his might.

Taking the field is YOUR 1984 New York Yankees.

Seriously, the Yankees once had a solid club that played fundamental baseball. That was 1996. And I still cursed them. Then the big boss man gets greedy and has to unzip his fly and show how big his bankroll is. Which in this case, he can buy a player from the team with the second highest payroll in baseball.

You know what this means! ESPN Sunday Night Baseball Yankees v. Red Sox -- Every Sunday night.

Highlander wrote:

Which in this case, he can buy a player from the team with the second highest payroll in baseball.

If the Red Sox wanted to keep Damon they could have. They have the money, their upper management is just on drugs or something. Can't blame Steinbrenner for going after him -- the Yanks have needed a good center fielder for a while. That's just the game...

I'm sad SimPilot has left. His irrational Yankee love would act as a counterbalance to Highlander's irrational Yankee hate.

hubbinsd wrote:
Highlander wrote:

Which in this case, he can buy a player from the team with the second highest payroll in baseball.

If the Red Sox wanted to keep Damon they could have. They have the money, their upper management is just on drugs or something. Can't blame Steinbrenner for going after him -- the Yanks have needed a good center fielder for a while. That's just the game...

I don't think you get it. I don't BLAME the boss. He's a symptom. A despicable human being of a symptom, but a symptom nonetheless

Seriously, I have a problem with The SOX and the YANKS and anyome with Bill Gates kind of money being able to buy a series worthy team. That is where the problem lies.

I absolve George for stealing the passion of center field, but I hold all of the players and their union and the big money owners accountable for killing baseball.

Now...that said, Highlander, we have to play 2k5 forever now. Last night I played 2 pickup games with the sox, and I was winning both games when the pubtards I were playing quit. Well, one quit, one disconned - from a non-ranked game!

I think it is like me, you, and those 2 pubtards playing baseball these days. Not a lot of folks are interested.

I am not blaming Steinbrenner for going after him really. Like was said, if a great centerfielder such as Damon was available and you have a gaping hole (which the Yankess do .. er did) I understand that.

But I have just never liked the All-Star Team that GS tries to put together. It's like a movie with nothing but superstars in it. For the most part, it will flop. It's not that these guys aren't talented, its that these talented guys have egos and anything can set them off. Team struggling, want to shake things up by changing the lineup a little? Guess what? LOTS of strife can come from that. And lots of strife on a team of egos is bad.

This makes me sound sympathetic to the Yankees plight. I am not that. So I'll say Damn the Yankees. Damn them straight to hell.

And yes I am idealistic about baseball. Sue me.

And Swampy, I am off work all next week. Surely we will be able to get a game or 20 in sometime then.

Last night, Damon Jacked one, scored from first on a hit-and-run, and hit a wall-ball double scoring men from 1st and second for MY RED SOX. I wept openly.

Sounds great, Highlander.

Some Of These Letters Are Hilarious

"WAH WHY IS SPORTS A CAPITALIST ENTERPRISE WAH"

The weeping and wailing in these, along with the overstatement ("Rivalry of Biblical proportions", "Judas") are just sad. I thought we'd all agreed after 9/11 to stop giving sports larger credence than it deserves in generally superficial situations.

Yes Virginia, the bottom line in sports is cold, hard cash. If you hate that so much in the MLB, Single-A baseball is a fine, cheaper alternative. Christ, it's like this is news or something. It's been this way for over a decade, and shall continue.

One wonders how Kansas City fans feel about this. Oh yes, *bleep* NY and Boston.

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Really good picture of Johnny.

Meh.

Johnny isn't that good a lead-off hitter. He strikes out too much. And he is only going to get slower. God only made one Rickey Henderson (Thank god for that).

Plus the Yankee's need pitching, not another bat. Thats great their lineup from 1-6 is scary, but what about the other team that matches them run for run?

Mussina is one year older.
Johnson is one year older.

Who are the other starters again?

Where is the middle relief?

Why did they not learn from what the White Sox did last year?

Let them win 10-8 games all during '06, then lose in the first round of the playoffs... to the Blue Jays.

Well if they don't get the pitching, they at least have someone that can catch the ball in centerfield now when it's hit.

Who are the other starters again?

Chien-Ming Wang (the name says it all)
Shawn Chacon who did OK once aquired from Colorado, but hey, anybody's numbers are going to get better once they leave Colorado.
Carl Pavano
and Jaret Wright who posted an abysmal 6.08 ERA last year

Paleocon wrote:

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See! Yankees are Evil.

Highlander wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

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See! Yankees are Evil.

Was there ever any doubt?

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