NFL Week 7 General Discussion Thread

Apologies for the tardiness, but here's the whole kit and kaboodle, starting with Friday's game:

Kansas City 30, Miami 20
Dallas 10, Seattle 13
Baltimore 6, Chicago 10
Buffalo 17, Oakland 38
Denver 23, NY Giants 24
Pittsburgh 27, Cincinnatti 13
Detroit 13, Cleveland 10
New Orleans 17, St. Louis 28
Green Bay 20, Minnesota 23 (The Vikings really earned their sex boat this week)
San Diego 17, Philadelphia 20
San Francisco 17, Washington 52 (Interesting how the Packers and the Niners have identical records this year, so far)
Indianapolis 38, Houston 20
Tennesse 10, Arizona 20

Dear Eli & Tom Coughlin - I'm sorry. Forgive me.

Dear Officiating team for the Den/NYG game: Hope you enjoyed giving the game to the Giants. Thanks for letting Pushoffico Burress do whatever he feels like, while calling ghost penalties on Denver all game. You let them back into the game, and the Giants were able to win. You should all be proud of yourselves, refs.

Dear fans of teams with winning records who happened to lose today. Enjoy the fact you're still over .500. Oh, and f*ck you. Signed, Niners fan. CC to Packers fans.

I should have bet money on the Bengals game. I could have emptied the wallets of each and every one of my co-workers.

I kept telling people the Steelers were going to roll right over them and nobody would listen.

Wee.

Eagles/Chargers game was brutal to watch... we had so many miss oppurtonities in the first half I almost cried... I cant take the Eagles inability to run the ball anymore.. its killing me watching them regress..

On the bright side the D played an outstanding game and bailed us out... the whole room was freaking out during the blocked FG for the winning TD.. grown men acting like fools..lol

I've never seen LT shut down like that..

Yeah, wasn't the Eagles run defense supposed to be suspect, and LT was supposed to run for 6000 yards against them yesterday? That's what the talking heads said, those jackasses. I would have enjoyed that game more if it weren't for fantasy implications. Andy Reid's "Gravy Cup o' the Week" definitely goes to the defense and special teams.

TheGameguru wrote:

I cant take the Eagles inability to run the ball anymore..

SD has a good run defense, so it would have been a tough game to start running. What kills me is how they don't even try to run. They'd rather sit there and throw 55 times a game. Having watched the Steelers for 30 years, I have it ingrained in my head that if you can establish a running game, you can pretty well control a game.

Dear Jeff Garcia,

Not too shabby.

Love,
Detroit.

__________________

Dear Kyle Orton,

Shave. For the love of God, SHAVE. You do NOT look more hardcore, you just look like a kid trying to look more hardcore. Shave.

Love,
The World.

Thin_J wrote:

I kept telling people the Steelers were going to roll right over them and nobody would listen.

Very well played game by both teams. Cinci got a bit unlucky early on, and the Bengals defensive line just seemed to get run down after a while.

Does anyone remember what QB's were taken ahead of Rothlisberger? I've forgotten, but I was curious to see what they're doing now.

Man, it was painful to see that blocked FG by the Eagles. And then, S.D. moves the ball down to the Eagles 20 only to lose it!!

I had a lot of mixed emotions this weekend: Bears played the Ravens. Okay, so I know that San Fran and Houston are the worst teams in the league, but the Ravens look just awful. This is the first I've seen 'em since week 1, and I'm sort of glad about that. Their O line sucks. SUCKS!

OK can not get too excited about the beating the Skins gave the 49ers, after all it was the 49ers we played, but the Skins look so much better on offense this year. Even in the losses they had decent offense.

Next 3 games for the Skins will be real important and I am guessing next 3 games will really shake out the NFC East as there are a lot of divisonal games going on.

baggachipz wrote:

Yeah, wasn't the Eagles run defense supposed to be suspect, and LT was supposed to run for 6000 yards against them yesterday?

Well the Eagles run defense is suspect. Dallas rolled over 160 yards on the ground up on them, most of it by an obscure rookie out of perennial powerhouse San Jose State.

Apparently, Philly came out with a ton of 8 and 9 men in the box, and dared Brees to throw. San Diego doesn't have any real legitimate deep threats, so it's probably a good strategy. Reche Caldwell can stretch the field but he's far from reliable.

The SD-Philly game was the most gutwrenching Chargers loss I have seen in quite some time. It wasn't enough that we had the game won and then had a field goal blocked and run back for a TD with 2:25 to go, but then to see your team rally get the ball into range for the tieing field goal and then fumble the ball at the 18 yard line. GAHHHH! It was a great strip by the eagle defender and a close play. Oh well it looks like the schedule eases up a bit for the Bolts over the next six weeks hopefully we can get a nice little win streak going starting next week with KC at home.

Apparently, Philly came out with a ton of 8 and 9 men in the box, and dared Brees to throw. San Diego doesn't have any real legitimate deep threats, so it's probably a good strategy. Reche Caldwell can stretch the field but he's far from reliable.

not really...but the LB's rarely dropped back into coverage... so most of the time it was 7 in the box.. and Lewis or Dawkins on Gates... and the DB's man to man on the WR's...

the front four got better pushes into the backfield and the LB's played with great discipline and held thier lanes... it was actually very impressive to watch them shut down LT..

2nd half though Bree's started to exploit the man to man effectively and honestly should have won the game... if not for the blocked FG and strip at the end.

Trotter again had a monster game.. his over the shoulder int was amazing... shame the offense went exactly 1 yard after that.. he's playing like the best LB in the game right now.

Frankly our oline couldn't block anyone yesterday. Our starting center Nick Hardwick was out and not only were we not run-blocking at all there was pressure right up the middle on Brees all day. Brees really had an oustanding game considering the amount of pressure he was under almost every play.

I mostly saw the second half of the Eagles game, but from what I saw it looked to me like they were bringing up a safety all the time, so effectively they had a 4-4 scheme going-- eight men in the box. It sure did what they wanted it to-- took out the SD running game.

TheGameguru wrote:

not really...but the LB's rarely dropped back into coverage... so most of the time it was 7 in the box.. and Lewis or Dawkins on Gates... and the DB's man to man on the WR's...

I'm going to TiVo the replay so that I can get a good look at it.

baggachipz wrote:

Dear Officiating team for the Den/NYG game: Hope you enjoyed giving the game to the Giants. Thanks for letting Pushoffico Burress do whatever he feels like, while calling ghost penalties on Denver all game. You let them back into the game, and the Giants were able to win. You should all be proud of yourselves, refs.

Dear Officiating team for every Denver Broncos game:

Thanks for overlooking all the chop blocks.

Your pal,
Mike Shanahan

Mayfield wrote:

Dear Officiating team for every Denver Broncos game:

Thanks for overlooking all the chop blocks.

Your pal,
Mike Shanahan

Poppycock and you know it! That's zone blocking!

Tom Coughlin wrote:

Dear officiating team for yesterday's sham in the Ghettolands:

Thanks for not calling blatant, "rip the jersey off his back" holding penalties anytime somebody got close to Fragile Eli.

Check's in the Mail,
Tommy Boy

p.s. Thanks for calling all those pass interferences on Champ Bailey. How dare he get pushed out of the way by Plex?

baggachipz wrote:

Poppycock and you know it! That's zone blocking!

So all those times I saw a Bronco Lineman go for the knees of the offside Defensive end was zone blocking yesterday? Thanks for the clarification!

And I know it is legal, it just does not feel right either giving or receiving it.

Yeah, they block in the knee-zone

It's legal, baby!

That's funny stuff right there.

Aside from dirty play, though, the Broncos zone blocking scheme is very effective. Many teams run similar schemes these days.

It's amazing... the Falcon's win despite Vick's 11/26 116 yard 3 int performance... and its not like he burned it up on the run either...

It's aggravating enough being an Eagle's fan... I'm pretty sure I couldnt survive being an Atlanta fan.. I'd need too many TUMS.

Well one INT was a deep throw at the end of the 1st half - one of those "take a shot, it doesn't matter if it's incomplete or intercepted" deals.

The other two were in the 4th quarter - a quarter that began with the score being 27-7. So it was pretty much wrapped up by that time already.

So, yeah, 3 INTs, but all 3 in "garbage time". Not a hurdle that they had to overcome to win.

Vick may not have "burned it up on the run" in terms of yardage, but he ran in two touchdowns. They're probably damn near impossible to stop on the goal-line, with the constant threat of the bootleg.

You know alot of people say that the Steelers can win every game if Ben only connects 10 times a game and they run well yet for the ATL Vick sucks because he only connects 10+ times a game?

Once again ATL has like a 75% w/l ratio when he plays. Scoreboard.

Hmm...I reread my post and it wasnt ANTI-Vick or being negative about Vick at all... in fact I was commending Atlanta's ability to win despite their QB not having to produce..Imagine if he becomes an even better throwing QB and can start delivering the ball downfield accuretly.. ATL would become scary.

I'm well aware of Vick's talents and ability that go beyond the numbers... I think you guys were being a bit hasty jumping on me.

Vick may not have "burned it up on the run" in terms of yardage, but he ran in two touchdowns. They're probably damn near impossible to stop on the goal-line, with the constant threat of the bootleg.

I agree.. its basically pick your poison... worry about Duckett (when he comes back) running up the middle.. or Vick's bootlegging to either side..

I loved that the announcers continued to lament the lack of a #1 receiver in Atlanta, like anyone has had a chance to stand out with McSpeedy Venereal completing 11 passes a game.

To quote Peerless Price: "I never would have gone to Atlanta if I had known they were going to run the option."

TheGameguru wrote:

I think you guys were being a bit hasty jumping on me.

I wasn't jumping on you. Mostly I was talking about the INTs not being what they might look like on the box score. That wasn't necessarily a claim that you were being "anti-Vick". I'm in agreement with you in the idea that Vick with better passing ability would be scary. He's still got a lot of learning curve ahead of him. His first two NFL seasons should have been his junior and senior seasons at Va Tech. He's seemingly "been around forever", and he's younger than most realize because of it.

I agree.. its basically pick your poison... worry about Duckett (when he comes back) running up the middle.. or Vick's bootlegging to either side..

Or even without Duckett, a fullback like Justin Griffith or Fred McCrary can be used on a 1-yard plunge. They've got some big bodies to use for the goal-line carries.

JimmDogg wrote:

I loved that the announcers continued to lament the lack of a #1 receiver in Atlanta, like anyone has had a chance to stand out with McSpeedy Venereal completing 11 passes a game.

I've tended to think that having a top-ranked receiver isn't worth the money. I'd rather put available money into QB, RB, DL, OL, LB... heck, pretty much any other position. When have you seen a team go to the Super Bowl and say, "They did it on the back of their receivers?" I tend to listen to football on low volumes, as some of the things that announcers say can really annoy me.

I've tended to think that having a top-ranked receiver isn't worth the money.

Doh! I hope you aren't a Lions fan!