Bertuzzi is back

What do you think?

Personally, I think it's awful. It only enhances the sense of lawlessness that the NHL has, and you see that trickle down into kids' games, where vigilante justice is an accepted part of the game. To call that a 17 month suspension is particularly disingenuous"”more like 25 games. Should Bertuzzi be banned for life? I'm not sure, but I'm positive that this suspension isn't long enough by a long shot.

I am more surprised this f*cker has not been arested for what he did. Good to know that justice doesn't matter when your salary is high enough.

The NHL needs to move on in a positive way. Getting this over with is one of those moves. No need to have this hanging around for the season.

Lets face it had Moore not gotten seriously hurt this may have been a few games and he's back. It was awful but I think he's paid for what happened. He pled guilty to the charges and that will affect him for the rest of his life. Keep in mind he had never been suspended before in the league so it's not anything like the McSorly/Brashear thing a few years ago.

EDIT: He was "arrested" and faced his criminal charges.

The hit was a chickensh*t move. Then his crocodile tears at the press conference. Looks like the NHL isn't completely moving on.

I think there's a feeling that the suspension didn't do anything because there was no NHL during that time.

But, as the article points out, he was barred from the European leagues in that span too, as well as World Cup play. So while a lot of other players went and played hockey elsewhere, he didn't.

It was a bad hit, but I don't think there was real intent to injure. Injuring the guy's neck as a result of the going down, and then another guy piling on, just was not the intention of the play IMO. He went for the side of the head (where you might punch in a face-to-face encounter) instead of cracking the back of the head and almost ensuring a concussion.

It was bad. Bad. Bad. But I just don't see the play as intent to do the kind of damage that it did. It's not like the McSorley incident - whacking someone with a stick is definite intent to injure.

I think 17 months, keeping him out of hockey across the globe, is reasonable, so long as his play from here on out is put under close scrutiny to ensure nothing like this happens from him again.

I gotta agree with Legion. I also don't see the point in calling his tears crocodile tears, there's no in doing that and no proof. He's back, it's good for hockey over all. Worse incidents have occured and were completely out of the blue.

Good to know that justice doesn't matter when your salary is high enough.

Bertuzzi doesn't make as much money as most other superstars in the NHL and other leagues. If anything it would have to be his actual ability that lead to the NHL reinstating him.

I think there's a feeling that the suspension didn't do anything because there was no NHL during that time.

Bingo. Now, I'm not going to claim to be a huge hockey fan, I watch it with my friends... but that punch was totally a cowardly and chickensh*t way to play... and the fact that his suspension merely covered a time he wouldn't have been able to play, is crap. I say everything was on standstill during that time and the dumb@ss's suspension starts at the beginning of the season.

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No, but an intentional injury which has ruined a man's life for the sake of vengence regarding an act that was perfectly legit in the game is not something to joke about in such a manner, especially when the fate of the injured is still very much in the air.

Sorry Demos but you're pretty wrong on this one. The hit on Naslund was deemed legal by the NHL but I don't believe it was and a lot of others don't as well. It wasn't a perfectly legit hit, Naslund was given a concussion and left bleeding. Moore's life has not been ruined. He has a degree from Harvard and would have most likely been released by Colorado regardless. He will walk again and is in fact currently walking with aid. Doctors have said that he'll make a full recovery. You're blowing the injury and its affect out of proportion. Was it terrible? Yes. Was it/is it as bad as you make it seem? No.

the fact that his suspension merely covered a time he wouldn't have been able to play, is crap.

He was barred from playing in Europe. He wasn't able to play during the lockout at all. As Legion said. He was banned from playing hockey for 17 months. Had to sell his house and move because of people (mostly media) harrassing him.

I'm not going to claim to be a huge hockey fan, I watch it with my friends... but that punch was totally a cowardly and chickensh*t way to play

I will. I'm a huge Canucks fan and a huge hockey fan in general. I just want to point out that Moore had refused to fight Bertuzzi before hand and that his best friend was injured by Moore in the previous Canucks vs Aves game.

Vector wrote:

He was barred from playing in Europe.

Which has a lot more bite than some might think. Also, all those minor leagues with NHL deals. I got to see Scotty Gomez play here in Fresno when he came to town with the Alaska Aces. Minor league hockey is wonderful in a city with nothing else to do, especially when the college football season is over.

One of my few regrets from last year is not going out to see the Vancouver Giants play. I heard that their games are amazingly fun and the tickets are cheap. We had the "Brad May Invitational" here but I didn't get to go. I did watch it on the computer and that was the only hockey fix I had all year (with exception to the floor hockey league I play in).

Minor league hockey is just one of the most fun things to go do to kill an evening. Even if you're not a hardcore hockey fan, or even much of a hockey fan at all. I got my girlfriend hooked a couple of years ago - she went from "hockey, that's played on ice, right?" to a season ticket holder in 2 years. I don't even have season tickets to the damn team. Anytime someone comes and visits from out of town, we take them to hockey if there's a game going on. It's just a good clean fun evening with the threat of some on-ice violence.

Of course, I would love to live in a city with an NHL team. Still, there's a casual, "I didn't spend an assload on these tickets" vibe to minor league hockey that just makes it fun.

Of course, I would love to live in a city with an NHL team. Still, there's a casual, "I didn't spend an assload on these tickets" vibe to minor league hockey that just makes it fun.

I got back from choosing my seats for Canucks games (my dad has half-season passes) and that assload of money is killer. It was almost 3000$. I get almost all of the tickets and I live a few minutes away from GM place so I don't mind :D.

Vector wrote:

I gotta agree with Legion. I also don't see the point in calling his tears crocodile tears, there's no in doing that and no proof. He's back, it's good for hockey over all. Worse incidents have occured and were completely out of the blue.

Really? Are we basically using the McSorley incident or Dale Hunter's hit on Pierre Turgeon as a benchmark here? Is everything else is gravy now?

We'll have to call this one a difference of opinion. I thought that whole press conference was horsesh*t, and the way the Canucks organization handled it all smacked of some smary, smiling "Like we really care" thing. While I know the small history behind the hit, that doesn't stop it from being chickensh*t. I still think he should've gotten another half NHL season to think about it. It's as much about the BS weepy press conference as it is about the NHL actually making a stand to me. Saying "I didn't mean to break the guys neck" doesn't mean you still didn't break the guys neck. I really have a hard time with this trying to pass of a sucker-punch from behind as some Macho Rah-Rah "The Code Of Hockey" stuff.

On Mr. Moore, from Terry Frei's Article At ESPN.com

Steve Moore is struggling, yet making slow progress in his rehabilitation. He is awaiting results of tests run during his two recent visits to a Cleveland clinic. He hopes to get back into the NHL. He is waiting to see if his civil suit against the Canucks, Bertuzzi, former general manager Brian Burke, coach Marc Crawford and (oh, the irony) current Avalanche winger Brad May, will go to trial in Colorado, or be tossed out for jurisdictional reasons and likely filed in Canada. Moore didn't deserve what happened to him, and even Canucks fans should be rooting for him.

So the issue becomes: Will the NHL learn anything from this? The most underplayed aspect in all of this was the league fining the Canucks, serving notice that it is the organization's -- from the GM on down -- responsibility to head off this kind of stupidity. You don't encourage it with either implied support or overt directives. If you do, you'll pay.

And the game just won't stand for it.

That's what I hope comes out of this, other than Steve Moore's return to health and to the NHL.

Bertuzzi's getting off really, really light here, as far as i'm concerned. If he recieves a rather hostile greeting from road fans this season, I won't say it's not justly deserved.

Really? Are we basically using the McSorley incident or Dale Hunter's hit on Pierre Turgeon as a benchmark here? Is everything else is gravy now?

Yes I have seen and heard about worse. No don't be silly, guys have been slashed in the face with sticks (on purpose) and other terrible incidents. But I do think the Bertuzzi incident should be the new benchmark because of the publicity and the actual severity.

We'll have to call this one a difference of opinion.

I agree. We saw different things in that press conference.

even Canucks fans should be rooting for him.

But none are. Canucks fans have no love for him. I don't like how he's sueing the Canucks and Burke. I just don't see the sense in it. I understand everything else but those two baffle me. But he can do what he wants. I don't care if he wins or loses as it won't change anything.

Bertuzzi's getting off really, really light here, as far as i'm concerned. If he recieves a rather hostile greeting from road fans this season, I won't say it's not justly deserved.

I agree. I think he got a lot more than people realize but he did get off light. I'm ecstatic as a Canucks fan, however. He'll be booed on the road and deservedly so. Vancouver is the only place where he's liked.