John G. Roberts

That's pretty messed up.

Ulairi wrote:

No. Penn and Teller said it right:Everyone is pro-choice just like everyone is pro-life. What you are is pro-abortion and I'm anti-abortion.

If our President is allowed to say that he is "pro-life" or believes in "The culture of life", then we are allowed to say that we are "pro-choice".

Elysium wrote:

I'm more interested in these kinds of rulings and opinions from Roberts : http://slate.msn.com/id/2123055/

But it does not matter, they are not US citizens. They would not dare do this to someone who is a US citizen....

Mayfield wrote:
Elysium wrote:

I'm more interested in these kinds of rulings and opinions from Roberts : http://slate.msn.com/id/2123055/

But it does not matter, they are not US citizens. They would not dare do this to someone who is a US citizen....

That isn't the point. The point is that Roberts has it in his head tha congress gave bush a blank check to do whatever he wanted.

Dr.Ghastly wrote:
Mayfield wrote:
Elysium wrote:

I'm more interested in these kinds of rulings and opinions from Roberts : http://slate.msn.com/id/2123055/

But it does not matter, they are not US citizens. They would not dare do this to someone who is a US citizen....

That isn't the point. The point is that Roberts has it in his head tha congress gave bush a blank check to do whatever he wanted.

When it comes to detainee's he can. That is the point. Since they are not US citizens Congress has zero jurisdiction over them.

Mayfield wrote:
Ulairi wrote:

No. Penn and Teller said it right:Everyone is pro-choice just like everyone is pro-life. What you are is pro-abortion and I'm anti-abortion.

If our President is allowed to say that he is "pro-life" or believes in "The culture of life", then we are allowed to say that we are "pro-choice".

Just because he says something stupid doesn't mean the other side should too. I wish both sides would go with for/agaisnt abortion and not choice/life. Since no one is anti-choice and anti-life.

They would not dare do this to someone who is a US citizen....

Because if history has taught us anything, it's that governments that seek to expand their own powers never abuse that power against their own citizens.

It's hubris and naive to imagine the U.S. is immune to exactly the abuses exercised by fallen governments over a thousand years. I'm not saying it will happen, but vigilance is prudent.

We can debate whether we have a responsibility to not falsely and interminally imprison detainees and whether the prisoners should have legal protections another time. (hint, the answer to both is yes)

Can anyone say Japanese internment camps?

Or Padilla... 4 years and counting without a trial.