Forza Challenge Of The Week *updated 8 June*

When I go to the Car Club menu, it shows you as having a pending invite. Maybe Dutty sent it to you? I'll get on it when I get home from work tonight, Poppin.

Coldforged has beaten my time.

Vengeance shall be mine!

Thin_J wrote:

Coldforged has beaten my time.

Vengeance shall be mine! :twisted:

CF beat your time by such a wide margin that I'm thinking about implementing mandatory substance abuse urinalysis for Forza Challeng Of The Week.

Sanjuro wrote:

CF beat your time by such a wide margin that I'm thinking about implementing mandatory substance abuse urinalysis for Forza Challeng Of The Week.

One second is a wide margin?

Yes. *shakes iron fist*

Current Week One Leaderboard
(three days until deadline)

1) Coldforged 2:33:353
2) Thin J 2:34:387
3) Duttybrew 2:35:887
4) Tenchid 2:36:887
5) Sanjuro 2:38:021

followed by Fanatka, Greenie, Lobster and MC Milky Rich.

How much time do I have to give up to be able to afford an Elise and these mods? I'd like to get a time in before Wed.

Coldforged has beaten my time.

Yes. Yes he has :D.

CF beat your time by such a wide margin that I'm thinking about implementing mandatory substance abuse urinalysis for Forza Challeng Of The Week.

Woah there. Nobody told me I'd have to give up sniffing glue to race in this poxy contest. If I can destroy brain cells in whatever manner I see fit, I quit!

* Kids, don't do drugs or you'll have to do a commercial just like this one.

How much time do I have to give up to be able to afford an Elise and these mods? I'd like to get a time in before Wed.

You need about 40,000 credits which shouldn't take too long.

P.S. Wow, do I hate quoting.

Limitations: Cannot tune vehicle past class B1.

For ?&%@'s sake! You guys managed to make those times respecting that?

HOW!?

For ?&%@'s sake! You guys managed to make those times respecting that?

We should try to get a group together and race that track in our cars! That would be fun to me and it could help out those of you wondering how those times are done.

I know I had a hard time catching up with Thin_J's time. I don't get to game often and I haven't played this game much at all. It requires a much different touch than, for instance, PGR2 and has really impressed me with the depth of realism. It may not be perfect, but it's amazingly cool to me. But when I first started running the challenge I was, oh, 12 seconds behind Thin_J's awesome time. For me it boiled down to having a deft touch on the controls so as to control wheelspin in the curves, learning the course and coming up with the best shift patterns to exit corners on power, choosing an appropriate set of gear ratios to optimize acceleration during the course but still allow me to hit my top speed right at the finish line (so I'm accelerating through that long straight instead of redlining midway down... I think I hit around 174-176 or so?), and making sure to brake before the turns instead of through them. I have as much upgraded on that little Lotus as it's possible to have and still be in B1. That and -- though I hesitate to give away any "secrets" -- I've found that if I drive in the view that's closest to a behind-the-wheel view instead of the default 3/4 view over the car it's easier to drive better and feels less twitchy.

I'm definitely impressed with this thing. I find myself watching replays and turning on the various telemetry outputs to get a feel for the incredible number of calculations going on at any one time.

C'mon, just admit you're using l337 h4x. I envy and respect your collective skill.

Wow..CF: Great time! Is everyone stil having the "Live adds 1 second to the "real" time issue? I see it every time I race. I had one race where it added 3 seconds (I finished with 2:39, but it posted a 2:42).

Regardless, I'm still nowhere *near* 2:33, but it's been a freaking blast trying to get there.

Really interesting thing: I was messing with the gear ratios, and I found a "sweet" spot in the benchmarks that was better than any previous setup. I took this to the track, and where I *had* been consistently qualifying first, this setup was consistently mid-pack. The car was definitely quicker and faster at the top end than my other setups, but the time spent navigating traffic at the start of the race offset any benefits. Not quite sure what was happening there, but my 2:40 whatever time was posted with a much slower setup where I started in the front row.

-Fan

All my times are without any tuning adjustments. I just can't seem to grasp how to tune the cars i did spend quite a bit of time messing around with the gear ratios but it always seemed to make my time worse instead of better. So i just said screw it set all back to default and went back to playing with decals.

I too found that 'driving behind the wheel' is much 'better' then outside. I didn't have a chance to follow the instructions to make sure I'm racing in the correct way. I still need to break thru to the
2:30's, (still :40's.) I have two night's to do it, but i've raced and raced and can't get the job down. (yet when I race in career and check other Club member scores I do well enough). I've raced this track over 20 some times or more. Ugghh. Just curious, you folks race with ghost on? It is kind of cool at first, but it seem's to ghost each different set-up you load and can get kind of 'busy'. Tho' even one can make you drive harder then you should sometimes(but good anyway in that you usually are driving against other folks anyway).

I am so going to put my best effort in at re-taking first today

Thin_J wrote:

I am so going to put my best effort in at re-taking first today ;)

Not if my "demolish all electrical power in Kentucky to stave off competition" plan works you won't.

Tenchid wrote:

All my times are without any tuning adjustments.

Tenchid is 2 seconds faster than me with NO TUNING?

*falls on sword*

Ditto what Cabbot said. Gonna try my damndest this afternoon to take down Coldforged. I know I need to rework my upgrades and gear ratios...

Fanatka wrote:

The car was definitely quicker and faster at the top end than my other setups, but the time spent navigating traffic at the start of the race offset any benefits. Not quite sure what was happening there, but my 2:40 whatever time was posted with a much slower setup where I started in the front row.

I found out by accident last night (thanks to being called away during the loading screen) that time doesn't actually start until you cross the start line. As such, since you're racing for time and not place, you can just sit there when the race starts and let the traffic get out of your way essentially running the course in time trial mode.

Of course, once I found this out (and I mention this because I'm of the "publish all 'exploits' because public awareness is good" school of thought), I had to try putting the car in reverse and backing up. It turns out that you can actually get a good rolling start at the timing line if you are so inclined. Obviously, it didn't help me any but I figured I should mention it so you guys who are actually good enough to matter can make sure that everyone promises to play nice (and fair).

Grumpicus wrote:

Of course, once I found this out (and I mention this because I'm of the "publish all 'exploits' because public awareness is good" school of thought), I had to try putting the car in reverse and backing up.

Oh FFS. You have got to be kidding. Why, why, why can developers not keep things like this in mind? That's so goddamned annoying you wouldn't believe.

Actually, even aside from this ridiculous possible exploit, I was wondering how this "challenge" system will work in the future. I like it, but I wonder if we're diddled. Since we're running these in career mode, what if I had already run this track in, say, an S1 car and posted a 2:00 flat time. How would I then go about posting a time for my B1 Elise so I could compete in this contest?

ColdForged wrote:

Actually, even aside from this ridiculous possible exploit, I was wondering how this "challenge" system will work in the future. I like it, but I wonder if we're diddled. Since we're running these in career mode, what if I had already run this track in, say, an S1 car and posted a 2:00 flat time. How would I then go about posting a time for my B1 Elise so I could compete in this contest?

That is a fine question. Before I set up any challenge, I will look to make sure that there aren't any existing times with the car we plan to use.

The rolling start thing perturbs me no little. Without being able to view replays, we're going to have to go with the honor system. No rolling starts, hepcats. Thanks for the heads-up, Grump.

Ok....no rolling starts. does this have an effect on where you qualify? I mentioned my qualifying problems earlier (faster car setups actually qualifying in the middle of the pack).

Oh...and one more thing. Is everyone else still having the "second(s) added to your time" thing when it's posted to live?

Thanks!
-Fan

Fan, while a rolling start is certainly a no-no, I (personally and in no official capacity) don't think that there should be anything wrong with just not moving when the green flag drops and letting the traffic clear out so that you can run the course in "time trial mode" with no other cars to battle. Obviously, those who get placed by the program at the front of the pack have no traffic to deal with and since qualifying is out of your control then this would be the only way to level the playing field (as it relates to traffic). Again, this is just my personal opinion and I in no way speak for the organizers of this event.

Wow. That rolling start thing certainly is garbage. Believe me, if I had done that I wouldn't be racing four and five times over again in what seems to be a vain attempt at beating CF.

I managed to pass Greenie who snuck up there into second place, but I'm still several tenths of a second behind CF. I think I'm just not driving as well as I did before, as I've actually optimized the car itself even further and it both accelerates faster and takes turns better.

Leave my time alone, heathens! Back, scoundrels!

So, is it real? Can you really back up and get a running start at it? If so that's likely the most disappointing thing I've heard today.

Success! 2:31:119

If you'd like hints, I have two: I used a supercharger instead of a turbo on the newest run, as it allows you to move a bit higher up the horsepower numbers before you hit A4 class. Second: don't be afraid to slide a little in the turns. I used to brake enough to move through each turn steadily, but if I allowed the car to slide through several of the sharper turns instead of braking, I saved some time.

And a third hint, there's two points during the race where the racing line turns red telling you to brake and turn, but if you approach them at the right angle you can blow through them in 5th gear without ever slowing down.

Also, I saved my replay, which I can record and upload with my digital camera if it isn't downloadable by the bunch of ya, in case there's any paranoia about the rolling start thingie.

Ahh... saved replays. I like that. How about we start saving replays in the case of paranoia as Thin_J said? I know I for one don't buy for a second that that sorry sumbitch beat my beautiful time :(.

Good time, Thin_J...was that time *really* 2:30:119? In other words, is it still adding a second to your time like it is mine?

I noticed the "line" turning red just before those 2 severe bumps. It seemed that if your brakes were good enough, you can recover from the airtime over the bumps and not have to slow down beforehand...

-Fan

Fanatka Wrote:
Good time, Thin_J...was that time *really* 2:30:119? In other words, is it still adding a second to your time like it is mine?

The actual physical time was 2:30.086 according to the moment my replay freezes, so it did still add some time, but I'm not sure why it would add so little when before it was adding almost a whole second.

Fanatka Wrote:
I noticed the "line" turning red just before those 2 severe bumps. It seemed that if your brakes were good enough, you can recover from the airtime over the bumps and not have to slow down beforehand...

That's actually a different point than I was talking about, but yeah I fly into that one in fifth gear too, and don't actually downshift and hit the brakes until I'm in mid-air after hitting the first one.

Both of the other turns I was talking about are more slight, but for some reason the racing line feature recommends a bad angle and braking instead of a good angle and gas

I don't really have any upload space for a movie, but if you guys would like I'll put the replay through movie maker and see if I can shrink it down and maybe someone else with webspace can host it somewhere?

*edited to fix the crap quote system with manual quotes*

Most of the time, I can count on 1 second being added to the final time when it posts. There was one race where I finished at 2:42, but it posted 2:50. Not quite sure if it's a bug in the posting, or the "freeze" time when you cross the line. I guess if it's happening to everyone, it's no big deal. (shrug).

Oh...is anyone using a wheel controller?

Thanks!
-Fan