WoW Hunters

I''ve tamed a decent amount of pets with my hunter. They really aren''t that different. At 47, or so, I tamed a turtle to see how much higher it''s defense was from my wolf. My wolf had 40.2% damage reduction, the turtle had 42.4%. The turtle did less damage, and they had exactly the same health. The only time I would care about stats is if you go up the beastmastery tree, since you can either get talents to make your pet a tank, or a damage dealer.

Anyway, the only rare cat near frostsaber rock is Rak''shiri. I tamed it at 47 for kicks, but their is nothing special about it other then the skin. Here is a pic:

I don''t even care for the skin all that much.

I tamed a pridewatcher a little while ago to get a pic of it:

Again, same exact stats as other cats, only difference is the skin. Oh yeah, if you are fully specced in beastmastery, and are interested in their attack speed, they have a 1.5 speed. They also have a slightly faster then normal run speed, but it''s only +10% or so, nowhere near King Bangalashs speed.

I''ve also had Snarler since lvl 42 :

He''s my personal favorite, since I am a dog person and all. He does about 5 DPS less then a cat, but has slightly more health, .5% more damage reduction, and 100 in all resistances. I bring cats along for PvP, since resistances don''t appear to do much in PvP.

You should get freezing trap at lvl 20, it''s useful for taking on multiple mobs at once. Just place the trap and send your pet into the group of 2-3 mobs. When your pet has aggro for one of them, either shoot the second mob once to cause it to come to you, or fire off a multishot. Either way, he will come running into your freezing trap, while the other one is still on your pet. Then kill the one on your pet, and move onto the frozen one. Works better when you hit 40 and have mail armor and rank 2 freezing trap. Then you can easily take on a camp of 3 mobs by freezing one, have one on your pet, and the other beating on you. Just make sure you don''t serpent sting the one you plan on freezing or it will break the ice.

As for talents, I actually wrote up a big thing comparing all the marksmanship talents. Unfortunately, I forgot to save it before formatting. Either way, just choose talents to go along with what you like to do. I went with marksmanship/beastmastery. Originally I was going to go with a marksmanship/survival build, but that''s mainly for PvP duels. I prefer group PvP, so I dropped my survival talents and picked up some beastmastery ones.

A few points about feign death. Be careful when using this solo. If you get a mob down to 50% health, feign death, and then jump back up and finish it off, you will only gain 50% normal XP. The game forgets how ever much damage you did to the mob when you feign, and so you lose that XP. No one knows whether this is by design or a bug unfortunately. If I have multiple mobs on me, I try to finish off my current target before feigning to make sure I get full XP. If you are in a group, this doesn''t affect your XP, so use feign death whenever you can.

I am not sure if Blizzard fixed this, but be careful about letting your pet get the first hit. Before the last patch, if you let your pet do damage to the mob, before you attacked it yourself, you wouldn''t get XP for any damage your pet did. The last patch said pets now tag the enemy. Although the tagging part seems to work, I am not sure if they fixed the XP loss. If anyone wants to check later, just kill a mob with you getting the first hit and see how much XP you get, then let your pet attack a mob and get it down to 50% health before helping, and see if you get full XP or not.

I leveled last night and put a talent point into the improved pet speed talent on the beastmaster tree. Bangalash, who was previously very fast, is now 33% faster than very fast. I don''t know what you call that but he now looks like something from an arcade shooter. I really recommend checking this possibility out.

I took the info from the cache and reformated it here so that we can keep a record.

Level 1

Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 9 to 11 damage
Requires pet level 1

· Dun Morogh: Snow Tracker Wolf (5-7), Winter Wolf (6-8)

· Elwynn Forest: Forest Spider (6)

· Durotar: Dreadmaw Crocolisk (9-11)

· Mulgore: Prairie Wolf (5-6)

· Teldrassil: Webwood Venomfang (7-8)

· Tirisfal Glades: Spiders under the monastery (10)
Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 4 to 6 damage
Requires pet level 1

· Dun Morogh: Ice Claw Bear (7-8)

· Durotar: Pygmy Surf Crawler (5-6), Scorpid Workers (3)

· Teldrassil: Strigid Owl (5-6)

Cower

Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you
Requires pet level 5

· Barrens: Elder Plainstrider (8-9), Fleeting Plainstrider (12-13)

· Darkshore: Foreststrider Fledging (11-13), Moonstalker Runt (10-11)

· Dun Morogh: Juvenile Snow Leopard (5-6)

· Durotar: Durotar Tiger (7-8)

· Mulgore: Elder Plainstrider (8-9), Flatland Cougar (7-8), Mazzranache (9)

· Teldrassil: Mangy Nightsaber (2), Nightsaber (5-6)

· Tirisfal Glades: Greater Duskbat (6-7)

Growl

Taunt the target, increasing the likelihood the creature will focus atacks on you
Requires pet level 1

innate knowledge

Level 2

Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 16 to 18 damage
Requires pet level 8

· Barrens: Eycheyakee, Highmane Huntress, Highmane Prowler, Oasis Snapjaw (15-16)

· Dun Morogh: Starving Winter Wolf (8-9), Timber (10)

· Ellwyn Forest: Mother Fang (10), Prowler (9-10)

· Loch Modan: Forest Lurker (10-14), Loch Crocolisk (14-15)

· Mulgore: Prairie Wolf Alpha (9-10)

· Redridge Mountains: Tarantula (15-16)

· Teldrassil: Giant Webwood Spider (10-11), Lady Sathrah (12), Webwood Silkspinner (8-9)

· Tirisfal Glades: Worg (10-11)

· Westfall: Coyote Packleader (11-12)

Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 8 to 12 damage
Requires pet level 8

· Darkshore: Thistle Bear (11-12)

· Dun Morogh: Bjarn (12), Mangeclaw (11)

· Durotar: Deathflayer (11), Encrusted Surf Crawler (9-10), Venomtail Scorpid (9-10)

· Ellwyn Forest: Young Forest Bear (8-9)

· Orgrimmar: Scorpid ?

· Silverpine: Bear

· Teldrassil: Strigid Hunter (8-9)

Cower
Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you

Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you
Requires pet level 15

· Barrens: Ornery Plainstrider (16-17), Savannah Patriarch (15-16)

· Darkshore: Giant Foreststrider (17-19), Moonstalker Sire (17-18)

· Hillsbrad Foothills: Starving Mountain Lion (23-24)

· Stonetalon Mountains: Panther, Twilight Runner (23-24)

Growl

Taunt the target, increasing the likelihood the creature will focus atacks on you
Requires pet level 10

innate knowledge

Level 3

Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 24 to 28 damage
Requires pet level 16

· Ashenvale: Ghost Paw Runner (19-20)

· Duskwood: Green Recluse (21), Lupos (23 elite)

· Hillsbrad Foothills: Spider

· Loch Modan: Wood Lurker (17-18)

· Redridge: Greater Tarantula

· Silverpine Forest: Bloodsnout Worg (16-17)

· Stonetalon Mountains: Besseleth (Elite 21), Creeper, Webspinner

· Tarren Mills: Forest Moss Creeper

· Wailing Caverns: Deviate Crocolisk (Elite)

Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 12 to 16 damage
Requires pet level 16

· Ashenvale: Ashenvale Bear (21-22), Clattering Crawler (19-20)

· Darkshore: Den Mother (19)

· Hillsbrad Foothills: Gray Bear (21-22)

· Loch Modan: Black Bear Patriarch (16-17), Ol'' Sooty (Elite 20)

· Tarren Mills: Gray Bear (22)

· Westfall: Crab

Cower
Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you

Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you
Requires pet level 25

· Arathi Highlands: Highland Strider (30-31)

· Hillsbrad Foothills: Feral Mountain Lion (28)

· Razorfen Kraul: Blind Hunter (32), Kraul Bat (31+)

· Stranglethorn Vale: Stranglethorn Tiger (32-33), Young Stranglethorn Panther (30-31), Young Stranglethorn Tiger (30-31), Panther (32-33)

· Thousand Needles: Crag Stalker (25-26)
Growl

Taunt the target, increasing the likelihood the creature will focus atacks on you
Requires pet level 20

· Learned from Pet Trainers, requires level 20 and 30sp

Level 4
Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 31 to 37 damage
Requires pet level 24

· Ashenvale: Ghostpaw Alpha (27-28), Wildthorn Lurker (27-29)

· Blackfathom Deep: Ghamoo-Ra

· Duskwood: Black Mastiff (25-26), Black Ravager (24-25), Naraxis

· Hillsbrad Foothills: Giant Moss Creeper (24), Snapjaw (30-32)

· Tarren Mills: Elder Moss Creeper (27)

· Wetlands: Giant Wetlands Crocolisk

Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 16 to 22 damage
Requires pet level 24

· Ashenvale: Elder Ashenvale Bear (25-26)

· Desolace: Scorpashi Snapper (30-31)

· Thousand Needles: Scorpid Reaver (30-31) in Shimmering Flats

Cower
Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you
Requires pet level 35

· Badlands: Ridge Huntress (38), Ridge Stalker (36)

· Hillsbrad Foothills: Feral Mountain Lion

Growl

Taunt the target, increasing the likelihood the creature will focus atacks on you
Requires pet level 30

· Learned from Pet Trainers, requires level 30, Growl 3, and 1gp

Level 5

Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 40 to 48 damage
Requires pet level 32

· Arathi Highlands: Giant Plains Creeper, Plains Creeper (33)

· Badlads: Crag Coyote (35)

· Dustwallow Marsh: Darkfang Lurker (36), Drywallow Crocolisk (35-36), Mudrock Tortoise (37)

· Thousand Needles: Turtle (34-35) near the Racetrack
Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 21 to 29 damage
Requires pet level 32

· Desolace: Scorpashi Lasher (34-35)

· Dustwallow Marsh: Drywallow Snappers (

Cower
Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you
Requires pet level 45

· Eastern Plaguelands: Noxious Plaguebat (54-56), Plaguebat (53)

· Stranglethorn Vale: Jaguero Stalker (50) near Booty Bay

Growl

Taunt the target, increasing the likelihood the creature will focus atacks on you
Requires pet level 40

· Learned from Pet Trainers, requires level 40, Growl 4, and 2gp

Level 6

Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 49 to 59 damage
Requires pet level 40

· Dustwallow Marsh: Albino Crocolisk

· Felwood: Felpaw Wolf (48)

· Feralas: Longtooth Runner (40), Snarler (42), Undead Wolf (41, 47)

· Hinterlands: Old Cliff Jumper (42 Elite), Witherbark Broodguard (45)

· Searing Gorge: Rekk''tilac (48)

· Swamp of Sorrows: Deathstrike Tarantula (40+), Sawtooth Snapper (41)
Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 26 to 36 damage
Requires pet level 40

· Feralas: Ironfur Bear (42)

· Swamp of Sorrows: Silt Crawler (40-41)

· Tanaris: Scorpid

Cower

Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you
Requires pet level 55

· Eastern Plaguelands: Monstrous Plaguebat (56-58)

· Winterspring: Frostsaber Cub (55
Growl

Taunt the target, increasing the likelihood the creature will focus atacks on you
Requires pet level 50

· Learned from Pet Trainers, requires level 50, Growl 5, and 4gp 70sp.

Level 7

Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 66 to 80 damage
Requires pet level 48

· Felwood: Felpaw Ravager (51-52)

· Hinterlands: Saltwater Snapjaw (49), Vilebranch Raiding Wolf (50-52 Elite)

· Stormwind: Sewer Beast (rare 50 elite spawn in the canals)

· Taranis: Giant Surf Gliders (Elite 48-50) on Land''s End Beach

· Western Plagueland: Diseased Wolf, Plague Lurker (55
Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 35 to 49 damage
Requires pet level 48

· Burning Steppes: Deathlash Scorpid (55)

· Felwood: Angerclaw Mauler (50), Ironbeak Hunter (50-52)

· Feralas: Ironfur Patriarch (48-49)

· Winterspring: Shardtooth Bear (53-55), Winterspring
Cower
Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you

None at this level
Growl

Taunt the target, increasing the likelihood the creature will focus atacks on you
Requires pet level 60

· Learned from Pet Trainers, requires level 60, Growl 6, and 5gp 90sp.

Level 8

Bite
(Cannot be learned by Crabs, Scorpids, or Owls.)

Bite the enemy, causing 81 to 99 damage
Requires pet level 56

· Blackrock Spires: Bloodaxe Worg (56-57) - spawns near Halycon

Claw
Cannot be learned by Bats, Boars, Crocolisks, Gorillas, Hyenas, Spiders, Tall Striders, Turtles, Wind Serpents, or Wolves / Worgs.)

Claw the enemy, causing 43 to 59 damage
Requires pet level 56

· Western Plaguelands: Diseased Grizzly (55-56)

· Winterspring: Elder Shardtooth (57), Winterspring Screecher (58)

Cower
Cower, causing no damage but lowering your threat, making the enemy less likely to attack you

None at this level

Grow
None at this level

I''d go for the Aga''mars in Razorfen Kraul. Armoured boars == teh hawt!!1!one!

I don''t think he''s high enough to tame those yet though.

You could always tame one of those winged serpent things in the Barrens. I think they start around your level, and you don''t see too many people with them (so not your ""average"" pet).

I feel the same about Mandu, my cat. I tamed her in the Night elf starting zone when I was level 10 and she was level 7. I am now 34. While I have picked up pets here and there to learn new abilities, she will probably be with me for the remainder of the game.

I just found out about this post in the WoW Hunter Forum from the Good Intentions site. It''s about a week old but, holy cow!

Looks like some serious love is coming down the pike for Hunters. Just hope it doesnt take Blizzard forever to implement this stuff.

speaking of hunters and pets abilities.

Do you use mostly claw or bite? or both?
Do you bother to keep both at the highest level, or just the one you use.

Recently I went out and replaced Claw rank 3 with Bite rank 5.

What I am really wondering is if I should now find Claw rak 5 as well.

Is there a significant difference, is there a situation where I would use 1 over the other?

Keep in mind this is for a PvE Hunter.

I upgrade the pet talents whenever I feel like it, but it''s hard to argue with the idea that more pet damage = better ability of pet to hold aggro = more time for you to shoot the monster in the ass.

One cycles a lot quicker than the other and uses less focus. I keep one turned on all the time and one I never use. Don''t remember which.

We''ve talked about this before and it''s all how you do it. You start with aimed shot. But if you keep your growl trained up and let the pet work for a bit before you shoot the monster, or at least don''t open with aimed shot, the pet will hold the aggro even if you crit on aimed shot, which in my case tops out at the moment at 1850.