Qui Gon Jinn

So what the hell is the deal with this dude? He just dies, kinda?

Anyone got any theories? GL said he'd explain that later, but ...

I prefer to just forget he ever existed.

GL says he''ll explain alot of things and never does. Then he explains midichlorians, which we didn''t want him to explain. I don''t like the man very much.

Midichlorians, gah! I''d just managed to forget, and someone always brings that up. Dammit!

Well Darth Vader means Dark Father. Maybe Qui Gonn Jin means something similarly obtuse!

Lets just hope that midichlorians dies along with Obi Wan''s mentor!

"fangblackbone" wrote:

Lets just hope that midichlorians dies along with Obi Wan''s mentor!

Wouldn''t it be nice if Ep 3 started with Vader waking up and saying ""It was all just a dream... a horrible, insane dream...""

Wouldn''t it be nice if Ep 3 started with Vader waking up and saying ""It was all just a dream... a horrible, insane dream...""

Yes, very nice.

GL is really starting to chap my ass. Have you seen some of the re-editing that he''s doing for the original trilogy for DVD release? Not that he hasn''t messed up quite a bit with his FIRST re-editing. Check this out:

IMAGE(http://www.aintitcool.com/image/HaydenJedi.jpg)

That''s just wrong.

Ugh. I feel quite ill. He may have made the films but that doesn''t give him permission to rape them.

"One_of_47" wrote:

IMAGE(http://www.aintitcool.com/image/HaydenJedi.jpg)

That''s just wrong.

That''s just Photoshop. I saw an analysis of it at TheForce.net that revealed that the body is from the original film but the head was added on later. Doesn''t mean that they won''t do a change like that, but that picture is just a mock-up.

Ugh. I feel quite ill. Fans may watch the films, but that doesn''t give them permission to photoshop them.

*backpeddle backpeddle*

Cool, Rat Boy! Thanks for clearing that up!

Oh, don''t worry. Lucas will do something at least as stupid as the photoshopped image for the DVD release. I have complete faith in the man.

I kinda liked Qui Gon actually. He and Obiwan made decently believable Jedi. Then there was the entire rest of Episode One, which I despised without exception. Even Yoda, who I liked in the first three, came off as an insufferable know-it-all.

"Gorack" wrote:

Then there was the entire rest of Episode One, which I despised without exception.

The lone exception for me? Darth Maul. With only 4 minutes onscreen, he without a doubt was the best thing in Episode One.

I actually thought Episode 1 was not that bad, I know I am in the minority there though. I liked Qui Gon and Obi Wan and I liked the dual with Darth Maul. The only thing about it I really disliked was Jar Jar. Now episode 2 on the other hand... bleh.

I have to agree. I liked in general the story of Episode 1 and how it progressed as a whole. My beefs were, of course, the midichlorians, and the quality of the dialogue

I think it would have been best to start Episode 1 out with DV as a teenager. Maybe, MAYBE, have some montage (sp?) thing in the beginning to show how he got taken from his mom/parents (the virgin birth thing is just horrendous, it''s like GL saying, ""My ideas are on par with Hey-sues!"").

I had high hopes this would be a trilogy about the breaking of a man and now I see it''s just about how many voxels can GL sqeeze on the big screen.

I''ll watch the third one out of morbid curiosity. After all, I''ve already watched while the train was speeding towards the bus, then I watched the train strike the bus and now it''s time to watch the survivors struggle for life.

The sad thing is we have to wait one more year to see who lives and dies. Sadder still, we know the original is to be butchered even more for DVD box sets.

"Eezy_Bordone" wrote:

I think it would have been best to start Episode 1 out with DV as a teenager.

Exactly right. Episode one should have been the introduction to the characters and the love story (to keep it nice and short). Episode 2 should have been the fall of Skywalker, and Episode 3 should have been Obiwan''s struggle to achieve the balance that exists at the beginning of the fourth episode (hiding Vader''s kids, and dropping out of sight).

The way things are set right now Episode 3 looks like an utter disaster from a storytelling standpoint. I can''t see any way that it can have anything but a very sad ending or an incomplete ending. This means that the first three movies won''t be able to stand alone as a trilogy, and you''ll have to watch 25 year old movies (which stand alone just fine) to see the end of the story.

You know, I wonder if he''ll ruin Empire Strikes Back indirectly. If he tells the story of how Anakin SKYWALKER turns into Vader, everyone knows who''s probably his kid.

"Mex" wrote:

You know, I wonder if he''ll ruin Empire Strikes Back indirectly. If he tells the story of how Anakin SKYWALKER turns into Vader, everyone knows who''s probably his kid.

That''s a good point, but does anyone NOT already know that?

You know, I wonder if he''ll ruin Empire Strikes Back indirectly.

He''s already done that. He put the name ""Star Wars"" on Episodes 1 and 2.

"Jadawin" wrote:
"Mex" wrote:

You know, I wonder if he''ll ruin Empire Strikes Back indirectly. If he tells the story of how Anakin SKYWALKER turns into Vader, everyone knows who''s probably his kid.

That''s a good point, but does anyone NOT already know that?

Well, he''s always said he intended the ""experience"" to begin on episode I and progress smoothly until Return of the Jedi.

Well, he''s always said he intended the ""experience"" to begin on episode I and progress smoothly until Return of the Jedi.

That seems to indicate an incomplete ending.

I always intend my craps to go smoothly too, but then I forget to eat my fiber.

My roomate told me he heard that Ewan McGregor had looked into gettting out of the whole thing after Episode I in fear this would ruin his career. Anyone heard anything about this?

Anyone else think George just hates Star Wars now? Kind of a shatneresque ''It''s just a television show!'' thing? I mean, he has to at least play along with the prequels, but the edits to the originals (eg luke''s scream in ESB, the ''Jedi Rocks'' part in RoTJ) just read to me like he was, and I don''t mean this sarcastically, taking the piss.

"Stric9" wrote:

My roomate told me he heard that Ewan McGregor had looked into gettting out of the whole thing after Episode I in fear this would ruin his career. Anyone heard anything about this?

Considering he was the lone bright spot in Ep 2, that would be a real shame.

"Stric9" wrote:

My roomate told me he heard that Ewan McGregor had looked into gettting out of the whole thing after Episode I in fear this would ruin his career. Anyone heard anything about this?

I''ve blocked out most memories about the prequels, but I remember noting that Ewan would dodge/not respond to questions about the quality of the film.

Samuel L. Jackson has gradually been sliding down from the ''badass'' level to ''lame'', with his recent movies, but the prequels also seemed to be a nail in the coffin for him (it''s impossible to say ''Naboo'' and sound badass).

did anyone else know this (regarding McGregor)?
""He got his interest in acting from his uncle, Denis Lawson, who played Wedge in Star Wars.""

You know, I always thought that the biggest reason there is so much ''hate'' for these movies is that nothing can be held to childhood movie memories.

I remember raving to my SO about EVil Dead 2 and how funny it was..one of the best movies ever!

It had been awhile since I watched it (read:years) so i rented it. She was not impressed. I liked it still but it was not as ''great'' as I remembered.

Same with these. People have so much love and remembrance, that no way could they possibly match up with the old ones. So right out of the gate they have that mindset.

Besides a couple of characters, I''ve enjoyed the new movies. Nothing beats huge CGI battles...

(Can I have my check now Mr. Lucas? hehe)

Same with these. People have so much love and remembrance, that no way could they possibly match up with the old ones. So right out of the gate they have that mindset.

No, I''d have to respectfully disagree. There are alot of things I''ll admit to Rose Colored Glasses but with Star Wars I can''t. I didn''t see any of them till I was at least 16 and even then I wasn''t really that hot on them. I liked the Zahn books, the music and the games, I never really was rabid about the movies, though ESB is a really good movie.

I was pretty hyped for Episode I, however in the end I just have to admit it''s a bad movie. The dialogue is horrible, the characters are boring and with the exception of the sabre fight at the end the action is so-so. In fact, the sabre fight is the only thing I''ve liked about any of the prequels. It''s not letting down on the hype anymore, I really didn''t care about Ep. 2 either way. However it still sucked. The only thing it did right was that the guy who played Anakin was really creepy, so that much was believable.

My point is there are way too many people who never really cared about the first ones who can tell you that the prequels suck. If you like em that''s fine, but the majority of people who hate them just hate the contempt Lucas has shown for his own work.