And it''s pretty obvious that Bush lied about the Trifecta. So?
What does either prove, except that politics is sleazy? Clark
hasn''t lowered the tone, or done anything Bush hasn''t.
Could be you''re now making up quotes from Bush to bolster your case
I have long been of the opinion that Democrats yell ""liar!"" at every opportunity just to distract from the fact that so many Democrat politicians really are liars...thank you for giving me another example.
Do you still think I was lying, or that I was distracting from the
discussion? I''m just questioning whether that was really
necessary. Does that make you the bad guy? No. It just
makes your arguments look weak, if you have to go ad
hominem to feel like they are complete.
Besides, I can be convinced; I can change my views. But
if you are just yanking the liberal''s chain, why bother? That''s
an important data point all on it''s own.
Robear
Quote:Could be you''re now making up quotes from Bush to bolster your case
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I have long been of the opinion that Democrats yell ""liar!"" at every opportunity just to distract from the fact that so many Democrat politicians really are liars...thank you for giving me another example.
Do you still think I was lying, or that I was distracting from the
discussion? I''m just questioning whether that was really
necessary. Does that make you the bad guy? No. It just
makes your arguments look weak, if you have to go ad
hominem to feel like they are complete.
I didn''t say either one of these two things.
Ralcydan ->
Gorack ->
Certis ->
Hey, this is fun!
D''oh! Okay, I''m an idiot. Bah. Too much stress at work.
Gorack, I''m sorry, I got totally confused. I''ll try to keep track
of posters better in the future. You have my apology.
Ral, well, I guess we reach an impasse again. As far as I know,
Bush stated when pushed that this occured at a speech in
Chicago, when it didn''t. That''s the evidence I''m working on.
Couching insults as psychology, and dodging the lying remark,
though, I still take issue with that.
Man, how did I walk into this particular blender? And who
makes walk-in blenders anyway? Sigh.
Robear
And who
makes walk-in blenders anyway?
How big a margarita could you make in one?
The indavertent I should not have included. That was a mistake. I''m
well aware of the difference, but I was thinking quickly and inaccurately.
Calling me a Democrat and a liar, even indirectly, is inaccurate on
both counts. Neither was I lying when I brought the Bush quote up,
as you stated. Clear enough?
I''m flabbergasted that your first thought is that someone who disagrees
with you is *knowingly* being dishonest, but frankly, I''ve heard that
before. I make mistakes; I admit them; life goes on. And I try to avoid
arguing personally. Clearly, I''m a bit too leery to step on toes; I''ll
keep that in mind in the future, if you wish.
Robear
How big a margarita could you make in one?
Not big enough.
Robear
LeapingGnome ->
oh, wait...
Ah, but then you''d believe they applied to me, and where''s the
fun in that? This way, you know that when you believe they
apply to me, you were wrong, so you can come up with
another argument, and I can step on my crank again trying to
keep it all straight. Everyone wins!
My head is spinning. I''m going to leave the field on this one.
And I''ll try to avoid posting when I''m having hard days at
work. Apparently, I don''t think so quickly, then. Or too
quickly. Anyway, you get the idea.
Robear
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