Bad movies

Well, he makes some pretty flimsy connections between his movie and the Imperialist Empire of the US, stuff like that. Quite entertaining, and totally out of place for such a movie.

Minority Report - No question. The ONLY good part of the movie was Colin Ferrel (s/p?!) and naturally he gets killed.

I could go into great detail about the philosophical nonsense, the inane-Tom-Cruise-jumping-from-retarded-bullet-street-car-to-bullet-street-car-scene, or just the horribly gaping plot holes. But I won''t because I really, really hate this movie. Some of the effects are kind of cool, though.

Starship Troopers - The book was one of the first sci-fi books that I ever really loved, after having read Have Spacesuit, Will Travel, and to see it massacred like that... it still burns me to this day.

And the king daddy of them all:

Legally Blonde - This is the only movie I''ve ever walked out on. I sat through f*cking Blair Witch to the bitter, stupid end but damn... I couldn''t take another Reese Witherspoon-cursed second.

I have a grudge against Eye of the Beholder. God, I hated that movie. I take personally the time that I wasted on that piece of drivel. I''m offended that it was made. It should be considered some sort of crime against humanity, or the senses at the very least.

Not even a naked Ashley Judd could salvage it for me. And I like Ashley Judd.

Worst. Movie. Ever.

Naked Ashley Judd!

Hmmm.... Eye of the Beholder you say eh?

hmm, its really interesting how differently people can percieve simple action movie. Maybe my perception depends on the fact that I have never read the book and watched Starship Troopers simply as stand alone product.

However, I still think it was damn entertaining, smarter-then-the-average and quite a punch to Propoganda Machine no matter its nationality.

You just see her flabby ass in it. The movie was horrible. After I came out I wanted my 2hrs back.

When Harry Got Mail in Seattle
-that whole Meg Ryan-puppy-dog-eyed crud
Crossing Guard
-proved that Jack Nickelson could in fact be in a $h#&&y movie
Robin Hood: King of Tights/Life Sucks
-pained me that Mel Brooks lost a step
Pennies from Heaven
-I worship Steve Martin, and wish I could take back that movie for his sake
Dude, where''s my car?
-still blinking and scratching my head after watching it for 20 minutes

Talking about sci-fi flicks, I have not heard any body mentioning ""Virus"", not the Anime series but the one with Jamie Lee Curtis. Oh boy, you might say this and that about Starship Troopers or Minority Report ...and maybe Pitch Black... and Aliens 3/4. But Virus hit the new all time low for me! Thanks god I did not pay money to see it...

Dude, where''s my car?

Dude, that movie is pretty sweet actually!

If you''re almost beaten into submission...

In an Iraqi prison cell...

Given the choice to either die or watch the movie.

Btw, I didn''t like the You''ve got teh Sleepless, Sally!!!1 rabid romancing either.

Any Keanu Reeves films with the exception of Bill & Ted and The Matrix!

...what about Devils Advocate?

kegboy

Speeds wasn''t that bad IMO.

...what about Devils Advocate?

Sorry, but for me it stunk.

Koesj - OK Speed was not bad but not too good either!

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...what about Devils Advocate?

Sorry, but for me it stunk.

Ditto!

The Postman and Waterworld - I agree with Kevin Murphy (MST3K) that Kevin Costner should be locked up for crimes against truth and beauty.

Mr Wrong - how could this movie have been so bad? Ellen Degeneres is funny, Bill Pullman is funny - shouldn''t the movie have been funny, instead of ghastly?

Pet Sematary - can someone explain to me why Hollywood had to meddle with one of the most hair-raising book endings ever? Nothing could be more creepy than her hand falling on his shoulder, and her voice, full of dirt, rasping out, ""Darling."" Why have that whole stupid stabbing gory scene?

A Clockwork Orange - most of the movie is pretty well done, but I''ll always be annoyed with Kubrick for fiddling with Burgess'' original story, especially his arbitrary removal of the last chapter, which is the whole point of the story! The end of the movie shows Alex clearly about to embark on his old life of raping and pillaging. We get no sense of Burgess'' original ending, which has Alex resume the old lifestyle, only to find it hollow and meaningless. To take that out changed the story too much for me. (Malcolm McDowell was marvelous as Alex, though...)

I am fairly tolerant of bad movies, if nothing else they make me appreciate good movies that much more. Having said that I would say that one movie from last year completely made me rethink what a bad movie is and actually became number one on a list that up until that point did not really exist.

xXx.

That movie was a heaping pile of sh*t.

Kubrick didn''t change the last chapter of A Clockwork Orange, he simply based his movie on the American version of the book. When the book was first published in America the publisher decided to omit the last chapter because they felt an American audience would prefer the ""bad"" ending.

However, I agree that the last chapter makes the book. I don''t know why publishers, producers, etc. change creative material because they think it won''t play well to a particular audience or geographic region.

"Most" wrote:

hmm, its really interesting how differently people can percieve simple action movie. Maybe my perception depends on the fact that I have never read the book and watched Starship Troopers simply as stand alone product.

However, I still think it was damn entertaining, smarter-then-the-average and quite a punch to Propoganda Machine no matter its nationality.

You know Most, I felt the same way the first time I saw it. However, I later saw the TV series and loved it, so I read the book, and that was awesome too. Then after watching the movie again, I realized how much of it was very stupid satire of the book, to the point that I found it insulting. Its like he totally missed the point of the book, and instead decided to satire what he thought the book was.

Apocalypse Now!! even though I like the Original, however the special extended version with a never before seen footage of a crack head monkey who got shot during the filming of the movie in side of directors head after he had few drinks on the set of Godzilla 5: It''s not a pet! It got so extended that it lost the whole point... it felt like I was watching LOTR 1&2 in one shot...

hmm, Pyroman, you got me interested in book. I mostly prefer ""old"" sci-fi - Asimov, Bradburry etc. and sort of lost interest in genre after failing to find something new and worthy. Maybe there is a spoon after all:)

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Anything my wife picks.

Man, you''re gonna be lucky if your murder doesn''t end up as a movie of the week after this. :wink:

She doesn''t read game forums :), sides it might a ""slight"" exaggeration

Kubrick didn''t change the last chapter of A Clockwork Orange, he simply based his movie on the American version of the book. When the book was first published in America the publisher decided to omit the last chapter because they felt an American audience would prefer the ""bad"" ending.

I actually know this. I''ve got a copy of both the American version and the version I bought in London. I bought the American one after misplacing the copy I bought in London (of course, I found the English one right after shelling out the money for the new one!), and was horrified to discover that the whole point of the story was left out.

Part of what bothered me about the movie is the way Kubrick treated the story. Kubrick said in an interview that he deliberately left out the last chapter because he didn''t think it was realistic. Kubrick''s version of A Clockwork Orange eliminated Alex''s choices and development as a character. All change to his character is externally applied (prison, the Ludovico technique, even his suicide attempt). In Burgess'' version, the external application of change still happens (and fails), but the character makes an internal choice to change.

Kubrick''s version doesn''t tell a story; he simply has a character who is one way, some things happen to force him to change, and at the end, he''s the same guy we met to start with. By eliminating a small but crucial segment of the tale, Kubrick effectively sabotaged the character. If Kubrick wanted to tell a story about a person who doesn''t choose, he might have bought a story that better fit his vision, instead of molesting a novel with a completely different point.

Anthony Burgess titled the book A Clockwork Orange with two meanings in mind. The first is more obvious - an organic thing which has been forced to become a machine. The second intention was a play on the Malaysian word ""ourang"" which means ""man"". Alex becomes a clockwork man, a programmed man, not just of technology, but of stolen choice. Of course, the process fails, which fulfills the first perception, but in the movie, that deeper meaning is lost. Alex''s choice at the end of Burgess'' complete novel is to change, to conform, to grow up. Kubrick stole this choice from Alex - therefore, making me cranky and ruining a good story.

Further, the fact that Burgess never saw a dime from Kubrick or the movie only sours me further.

The end of my diatribe, I promise.

Well, you managed to express my feelings about the movie quite well. Thanks.

While I love the plot of A Clockwork Orange, it isn''t my favorite part. Actually, I believe that Kubrick did my favorite part, the language of Nadsat, fairly well.

"Elysia" wrote:

The end of my diatribe, I promise.

Until next week when Elysia takes on Minor Symbolism in The Shining and its Effect on the New England Hotel and Hospitality Industry.

Medicine Man - after this one, if it had Connery in it I didn''t watch it.... except then I did watch The Rock & enjoy it, which unhappily later had me watch (it''s so bad it''s good)....

The Avengers. The teddy bear costumes make the movie

Medicine Man - after this one, if it had Connery in it I didn''t watch it.... except then I did watch The Rock & enjoy it, which unhappily later had me watch (it''s so bad it''s good)....

I totally forgot about this one. Who knew the cure for cancer was right in front of him the whole time!

Bugs plus sugar!!!

I think I saw that movie one summer about 30 times because of it''s constant rotation on Cinemax.

I''m surprised no one has mentioned Dungeons and Dragons, Jeremy Irons had a +20 to his over-acting throughout the film.

And Thora Birch was as stiff and mumbling as ever!

Hmm let me see now

Batman and Robin - So So Bad in fact so bad it''s not even funny bad!

The Postman - So very very long and very VERY dull!

I''m surprised no one has mentioned Dungeons and Dragons, Jeremy Irons had a +20 to his over-acting throughout the film.

Wow, that''s one of the geekiest things I''ve ever read.

Yeah, come on. No combination of spells/magic items could give you +20. I could believe +3, even a +4 with a campy DM, but +20? Please keep things serious here Certis.