Thoughts on George W. Bush's Ultimatum Speech

I just thought I'd open this one up for reactions and responses to The President's ultimatum speech Monday night. What's your take?

It was a very determined speech. Im glad he spent a lot of heartfelt time taking to the Iraqi people. He would have had a lot more support if he had talked like that for months.

Bush showed all of his strengths. He has a direct, simple, common man approach when speaking. When he''s at his best, its like this speech. When he''s at his worst he sound dumber than a post.

I hope many of the Iraqi millitary follow the instructions given to them by the allied forces in order to avoid conflict. The ones who surrendered 12 years ago were very brave. For all they knew, we had the right to execute them anyway in a time of war.

I thought that it started out slow but got much better towards the end.

Undoubtedly, people who do not like Bush will find the speech a piece of crap, and those in support of the war and of Bush will find what he said to be timely, for lack of a better word.

I think when he mentioned ""Don''t destroy the oil wells"" it created a horrible sound bite that can easily be taken out of context. People will look at that and immediately say that this War is about oil. Oil is an asset for Iraq, and destroying it will only hurt them.

However when he mentioned in his Azores speech, (paraphrase) it''s all well and good to have ""serious consequences"" with your resolutions but you need to make words have meaning, I thought that was a good point he should have mentioned in this speech again tonight.

He mentioned the connection to September 11th and terrorism, but didn''t make it a main point, I think that was smart. It''s a touchy topic with the public, if you make it a big point people are going to think you are using it as an excuse to try to gain public support. I''m not totally convinced that Iraq was 100% innocent on that day, but that''s my opinion.

I don't have high expectations of a Dubya speech, but I thought he did a good job tonight.

I have a question. As unlikely as the situation may be, what would happen if Saddam and his sons packed up tomorrow and left Iraq?

"Sway" wrote:

I have a question. As unlikely as the situation may be, what would happen if Saddam and his sons packed up tomorrow and left Iraq?

Our Military would walk in not have to fire a weapon. If that happens Bush, Blair, and Aznar (Spain) should all get Peace Prizes.

"Sway" wrote:

I have a question. As unlikely as the situation may be, what would happen if Saddam and his sons packed up tomorrow and left Iraq?

Either way, we''re going to occupy Baghdad. If he leaves, it will prevent some bloodshed. I seriously doubt Hussein is going to leave though.

I thought the speech was actually pretty good. He made his point that there was a resolution passed a year ago that promised serious consequences, and now the UN is ignoring that resolution.

""I have a question. As unlikely as the situation may be, what would happen if Saddam and his sons packed up tomorrow and left Iraq?""

As long as we are living in the dream world now, the Allied troops could set up outposts to distribute food and medicine and coordinate efforts to uncover WMD. Bush and Blair are heralded throughout the ages and just maybe Saddam gains some credit.

If per chance in the real world Saddam has the foresight to get the hell out of Dodge, he leaves behind a nasty mess. Saddam always goes into hiding when war starts. Its not like the war cant be run without him. All he''s used for is motivational speeches. He could prerecord several dozen and release them periodically to frustrate Allied efforts for years. Booby traps would be uncovered. Think of the damage that could be done if these were chemical weapon booby traps. Sure he''d hurt his own people, but that hasnt stopped him before.

If Saddam wanted a real coup in the political arena, he would leave and wait for the vain efforts of Allied forces to instill democracy to fail. Then he would resurface and say what bullies they are that they forced him out and how the people were happier when they rallied against the heathen westerners. He has been for peace all along and the war mongerers of Brittain and the U.S ruined his beloved country.

I really wish I had something inciteful or optomistic to say but all I can say is that I hope after we dismantle the Hussien regime we have better luck establishing a true, permanent democratic government in Iraq. We do a good job of knocking down muderous governments but a pretty crumby job of installing permanent peace.

Oh fang... Saddam would have to survive another ten years of cancer.

As W''s speechs go, it was pretty good. I actually found it somewhat convincing. But, I cringed every time he garbled out ""noo-kyoo-lerr"".... uuhhhggggg, that disturbs me.

I wonder what will happen to Saddam and his gang after the war is over"…? Are they going to kill him or put him in jail? Not that I care but at least curious"… I mean we will beat him but he is not going to grow flowers after the war! I highly doubt that"…

"Nei" wrote:

I wonder what will happen to Saddam and his gang after the war is over"…? Are they going to kill him or put him in jail? Not that I care but at least curious"… I mean we will beat him but he is not going to grow flowers after the war! I highly doubt that"… :?

Hang him like Mussolini.

"Ulairi" wrote:

Hang him like Mussolini.

On live TV?

I really wish I had something inciteful or optomistic to say but all I can say is that I hope after we dismantle the Hussien regime we have better luck establishing a true, permanent democratic government in Iraq. We do a good job of knocking down muderous governments but a pretty crumby job of installing permanent peace.

Well I think we did a good job with Germany and Japan. South Korea seems to do well too. What places have we topled the old regiem and then installed a domocratic government that did not work?

"" Im glad he spent a lot of heartfelt time taking to the Iraqi people.""

That''s the part that had me rolling my eyes and going ""bullsh*t... Bullsh*t... oh that''s bullsh*t too"".

""Oh yes, we''ll free you and give you a democratic government where you will live in happines and freedom and happy fairies of love and candy"".

Pleease. Just like Afghanistan, I''m sure. Or the other 20 other places where the US promised that (Africa, vietnam, etc.)

The world press is getting very aggresive against the US.

""Pleease. Just like Afghanistan, I''m sure. Or the other 20 other places where the US promised that (Africa, vietnam, etc.) ""

Afghanistan is better today than it was a year ago. They''ve not had enough time to change. After we left Vietnam 2 million people were killed. We haven''t done enough in Africa.

When the US sticks around we have a great track record.

After we left Vietnam 2 million people were killed. We haven''t done enough in Africa.

You''ve done enough in Latin America.

"JD" wrote:
After we left Vietnam 2 million people were killed. We haven''t done enough in Africa.

You''ve done enough in Latin America.

Ya...we should pull off of the aid we give Latin American countries.

Ya...we should pull off of the aid we give Latin American countries.

We could spend that money on fixing all of the damn pot holes in Boston. WTF!! I almost lost my car today on my way to work in one.

Seriously though, Latin America has created enough problems for themselves (economy, violence, etc) without the USA, but if they feel better blaming us for all of their problems that''s fine. Everyone else is doing it, why not jump on board!