C&C Generals

Where's all the talk about it? To get the ball rolling, I'll repost my mini-review here:

I thought it'd kill my system by running on High detail with even 800 X 600, but it runs like a dream. And yes, although I prefer higher resolutions, specifically for FPSs, I've no qualms about running on a lower res for RTSs and turn-based strategy games, since the font looks bigger and easier to read.

The game itself, first and foremost, is FUN. Perhaps the biggest change over other RTSs is that you can have successful strategies with EACH unit type (aircraft, tanks, infantry). Last night, I chipped away at a GLA base with American air strike after air strike (using all 3 combat aircraft and the A-10 strikes) plus the Particle cannon, where I could've easily just run through their base with a massive tank rush or dropping in tons of infantry. Earlier, I had used Chinese Dragon tanks equipped with Black Napalm to lay down a wall of fire to guard a choke point. Those infantry units just kept walking into the fire and getting incinerated. In other mission with the Chinese, I used sustained MIG and artillery strikes to sneak a nuke cannon into position to level another GLA base. Then there's the GLA, who have no air forces whatsoever, which sort of reduces them to a two-trick pony. They make up for that with atrition units. Imagine a rush of suicide bombers (or suicide car bombers, depending on the map) rushing an enemy base. If you catch them off guard, you can do massive damage. Although not as powerful as their American or Chinese counterparts, GLA vehicles can do plenty of damage when upgraded with biological and chemical weapons. Then there's the GLA infantry, which can be upgraded with better weapons and camo.

Final verdict: 9 pieces of cheese (Out of a possible 10)

What are your specs?

The game itself, first and foremost, is FUN.

I''m planning to post some impressions in the next day or two, but I think this sums up my feelings about it nicely thus far. Nice to have a decent C&C game on the old hard drive.

- Elysium

"Flux" wrote:
What are your specs?

1.7 Ghz
300 odd RAM (can never remember)
GeForce 3

What about the claim that it has no story and no FMV?

"Mex" wrote:
What about the claim that it has no story and no FMV?

True and true. Then again, does it have any more story than a few other popular games out there?

Well all I''ve played is skirmish, but I''m really liking what I''ve seen so far. It runs beautifully on my systemAMD 1.3, 512 ram,Gegorce 4 4200. It looks as good as i had hoped. Can''t wait to give multiplayer a try. I''m planning on starting the single-player campaign over the long weekend.

It feels good in a comfortable kind of way to be playing a C&C game again.

I ask only because previous C&Cs had uberbabe Kari Wuhrer.

http://www.kariwuhrer.net/portfolio....

I can safely confirm that Generals is a barrel of fun online now that I''ve laid a whooping on Elysium (although to be fair neither of us really knew what we were doing.) The pace is quick and there was a lot of back and forth before I finally managed to out-gun him.

I especially love the fact that it didn''t take three hours to finish one game, more like 45 minutes - 1 hour which suits me just fine.

Generals is a fun game but with their new Promotion system, they took away the whole fun of tank rush, the good old days when the other player running around and preparing for a long fight, you build a war factory and mass produce the tanks! And then just play a drive by shooting!!(ref.: RedAlert2)

I have yet to try multiplayer, but I do enjoy the skirmish mode. Plus I like the little medals you get for doing certain task in that mode.

One major problem I have with the game so far...

In game, when you trigger one of the special ""movies"" you can not skip the movie. So the game continues on in the back ground and that sometimes leaves you out of a major firefight. Plus, when the movie stops, you are not view the unit you were before. You have to go find that one again. Major pain in the ass when you were selected on a unit and it triggered an event but after the in game movie, you are not on that unit anymore. It drove me nuts.

"Az Syndicate" wrote:
In game, when you trigger one of the special ""movies"" you can not skip the movie. So the game continues on in the back ground and that sometimes leaves you out of a major firefight.

The game design was to be like a movie, and just like the movie it has it''s flaws! ...Anyhow, just to add, movies(which i agree are pain) are not as bad as the path finding, sometimes it makes no sense, but CnC is know for that, where in TS, harvesters would go through the enemy base to get to the tibirium (don''t remember how to spell that ), which in turn was kind of resolved.... they just got rid of Tibirium or Ora or Gold.

-Nei

Oooh my aching eyes,I''ve just finished an eight hour session of C&C generals! Awesome game, It''s the only RTS recently (including war.3) that''s held my attention for that amount of time, in fact so much so my girlfriend has castigated me for ignoring her so much on valentine''s day!

Graphically the screenshots just don''t do the game justice, if your lucky enough (like me ) to have above the recommended spec then it''s eye candy central! when I first loaded the game I sat and watched the skirmish going on in the background and very quickly had gathered a small crowd of onlookers going ""Oooh"" and ""Aaah"" at the graphical splendour.

Gameplay wise, the only major niggle I had (now rectified thanks to Certis!) was the zoom distance, even with the zoom pulled all the way out and the taskbar closed I just couldn''t see enough of the screen for my liking.A minor price however.

Must stop fawning now and get back to playing, I have a friend coming down tomorrow whom I must thrash so I have to practice some more!

Oh and on a final note. (I know this was me being stupid but...)
When I first installed and ran the game I was on a 21 inch monitor in my office and was running in 1600 by 1280 res.Turned PC off, went home, plugged PC into 17in monitor and lo and behold the game gave me a Directx error! To cut a long story short I had to go back to the office and ressset the resolution down to 1080 to get the game to run again.V annoying!

"kegboy" wrote:
in fact so much so my girlfriend has castigated me for ignoring her so much on valentine''s day! :roll:

Tell the woman that if she does not support you in the Great Struggle, you''ll send an angry mob to her apartment.

That''s it, I''m laying off the GLA, even if the angry mob is the best infantry unit ever made.

Tell the woman that if she does not support you in the Great Struggle, you''ll send an angry mob to her apartment.

No need I bribed her by giving her some money and telling her to go out and enjoy herself with her friends! Now where is my demo trap?....

Oh, and one other moan about the game I''m sorry but I miss those cheesily acted cut scenes, although I know deep down that the game is better off without them.

I''ve been really suprised as just how well the game has run on my middle of the line to low end system. I''m very happy with the performance so far. I just wish it was tomorrow so I could be starting up the single player campaign instead of sitting at work thinking about it.

Is this game for someone who thought WC3 was too hard? I like to take my time and build up an army and then go out and fight. I don''t like having to rush through a build order blindly just to start playing and maybe have a chance at winning.

So is the new C&C for me?

At times, it''s as frustrating as WC3 (see the last Chinese mission). Other times, you''ll find yourself wishing you could import units from Generals over to WarCraft (particularly the Bomb Truck [""Not responsible for damaged goods""]).

Well Smash, I tend to play like you do but C&C does encourage a more offensive play style. Not to say you can''t build some defences and hang back a bit before you make an assault but eventually the enemy may launch some nukes right into your base (or your massive waiting army) and that can cause problems.

Like I said though, I like to play the same way you described and I still love the game.

What are your system specs Drunkagain? I would like to know if I could fully experience the Generals game too 8)

Post 3 more times we Koesj, we need to figure out what happens to Intern, haha

Yeah I already noticed that, well I guess you guys should keep me rollin'' then since I am rapidly advancing towards something grand though unknown! To prevent any of the CEO''s of returning my postnumber to zero because of rabid off-topic posting in threads like these I present you with a question: Is anyone planning on modding Generals or joining a mod team? I am, still have to buy a new computer though to get all the stuff running but I am very eager to see what can be done with the engine

Well, kinda on topic. I went to a computer show this weekend in my town and stared at many a great deal but didn''t buy anything. I am somehow convincing myself to be an Xbox only gamer, hmmm...

Impossible, even with Live and the few really great games the Xbox has I, as a semi-Xbox fanboy can''t live on the black box alone. I will always need some kind off PC gaming experience to fix the lacunes in console gaming

ACK !!! no name change at 101 *tear*

At times, it''s as frustrating as WC3 (see the last Chinese mission).

Having just finished the game (my brother''s over from England and I''ve had to ban him from playing in order to get playing myself.) I agree with Rat Boy that last chinese mission is a real bitch. A bit disappointed that there are only 7 missions to a side, but that said definately my fave game of the year so far.

In contrast, the last American mission was so damn simple by comparison. Just use A-10s and fuel bombs to blow up air defenses (they''re free units, after all) and have stealths and/or Auroras take out the SCUD Storm. Use Comanches in large quantities as base defense. Fire nukes and particle cannons to knock out vital structures such as Arms Dealers, Barracks, Supply Stashes, and Black Markets. Rinse and repeat.

The last US mission was damn easy but I had a ranger drop onto the map behind the GLA scud stiorm captured it and sold it, threat removed. The AI couldn''t get any units in behind the Scud Storm cuz it was right in the corner! Then loaded up humvees with snipers and rocket guys and between them airstrikes and FAB''s, mission over!

Must have been a lot of Rangers if you didn''t get gang rushed by the GLA the second their boots hit the ground.

It was the way the GLA scud storm was positioned they couldn''t get tank units round the edge of the scud storm only infantry units could get round and only one at a time and with 20 rangers they had no chance!

"kegboy" wrote:
It was the way the GLA scud storm was positioned they couldn''t get tank units round the edge of the scud storm only infantry units could get round and only one at a time and with 20 rangers they had no chance!

Ah, there''s the thing. I upgraded to 3 A-10s (Stingers and gate keepers cut them to pieces), Drones, Fuel Air Bombs, Paladin tanks (works great with Comanches), and the Stealth Fighter. How''d the C-130 with the Rangers get past the air defences to the SCUD Storm?