GWJ Conference Call Episode 89

Conference Call

Metal Gear Solid 4, Video Game Buy In, An Interview With John Carmack, A Missive From The District 97, Your Emails and more!

We're very pleased this week to have an interview with John Carmack! Sadly, he doesn't give us much on Rage, but saves the real rage for patent trolls and the influx of lawyers into the videogame business. The rest of the time we talk about Metal Gear Solid 4, buying into games and your sweet, tender emails.

To contact us, email [email protected]! Send us your thoughts on the show, pressing issues you want to talk about or whatever else is on your mind. You can even send a 30 second audio question or comment (MP3 format please) if you're so inclined.

Metal Gear Solid 4
Age of Conan
id Software
Fireball Island

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Show credits

Music credits: 

Intro/Outro Music - Ian Dorsch, Willowtree Audioworks

"Carving Away Stone" Ian Dorsch - 0:41:54
"Washaway" Ian Dorsch - 1:06:26
"Los Pistoleros" Ian Dorsch - 1:38:17

Comments

Oh, Rob, regarding those Rock Band drumpads. If they are the ones I'm thinking of, they actually come in two sizes, ones to cover the rims and ones to cover just the inner pad. The ones to cover the rims are for those people who want to be able to hit the whole of the pad without worrying about an 'edge' to clang their stick on. Theoretically if you apply them properly the adhesive should be strong enough to mold the pad to the distance between the rim and the pad.

That said...I bought custom pads from www.rockbanddrumsoft.com that sit within the rims (like your's after cutting them down). They are absolutely sweet, would recommend them to anyone (I have the single MCU type)

Duoae wrote:

I'm against patenting software. It's akin (very much so) to patenting mathematics. You can't patent maths, only discover ways of using it.

Does programming-program maybe work like the physics-engineering split?

Certis wrote:
McChuck wrote:

@Certis
You'll pay for that 'purple monkey dishwasher' remark.

Whatever, Top Guns.*

*Your new nickname starting .... now.

Jazz Guns? Top Hands?

Destrin wrote:

Man, I was 4 pints down after the first 45 minutes...were Rabbit and Rob intentionally trying to kill us today?

Are there rules anywhere? And can we add drink on someone saying "Here's the thing..." if it's not already there?

wordsmythe wrote:
Duoae wrote:

I'm against patenting software. It's akin (very much so) to patenting mathematics. You can't patent maths, only discover ways of using it.

Does programming-program maybe work like the physics-engineering split?

Wha-? You're going to have to explain that one to me...

[edit]
If you're talking about the theoretical/fundamentals - implementation split then yes should work like that.

From a chemistry background: You can't patent a diels-alder reaction - but you could patent a process to make a derivative of a compound using several steps - one of them a specific diels-alder reaction (you couldn't stop people from using that one or any of those steps - even in a different order to make the same compound.... but then there are patents on drugs that cover that aspect which is where the analogy falls over.)

Fireball Island a game of dexterity!?! 'Twas a game of the dice if I recall.

protagonist42 wrote:

Fireball Island a game of dexterity!?! 'Twas a game of the dice if I recall.

For rabbit, that's a dexterity game.

Hey everyone. New guy here. I've been listening to the podcast for about 2 months but finally decided to start lurking on the site. I'm hoping to find other folks like myself to play games with. Great podcast as always. Loved the interview - nice work Rabbit.

I continue to love Rob's analysis of games. I find myself falling in line with his thoughts on games

Z

Certis wrote:
protagonist42 wrote:

Fireball Island a game of dexterity!?! 'Twas a game of the dice if I recall.

For rabbit, that's a dexterity game.

Hey! I'm workin' here!

mateo wrote:

Great interview with Carmack.

He did give up one nice nugget of information: the Doom 3 engine is going to be released as open source soon (maybe)!

That is huge, if it happens.

It's probably still a ways off -- he hasn't open-sourced an engine until there's a new one out to replace it, so I'd say we won't see the Doom 3 source until Rage is out the door. It might not be long after that though, since until the Quake 3 engine, which had a lot of licensees, I don't know of anyone working on new, unreleased games with the Doom 3 engine right now.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Destrin wrote:

Man, I was 4 pints down after the first 45 minutes...were Rabbit and Rob intentionally trying to kill us today?

Are there rules anywhere? And can we add drink on someone saying "Here's the thing..." if it's not already there? :D

I recommend that someone starts a thread to codify these rules.

ramzzz13 wrote:

I continue to love Rob's analysis of games. I find myself falling in line with his thoughts on games :)

So you also hate fun?

protagonist42 wrote:

Fireball Island a game of dexterity!?! 'Twas a game of the dice if I recall.

And you had to shoot the fireball. And you had to try to get out of the way whenever someone wanted to punch you in the arm for stealing the jewel from them.

I think Julian needs to find a new hobby.

Wait, whadido?

Hey, everyone... Sorry, but I'm new to the site and podcast (great discussion!), but I noticed in this podcast and the last one that you're referring to the game as "The Bourne Identity" rather than its actual name, "The Bourne Conspiracy"...

Is there something I'm missing?

rabbit wrote:

Wait, whadido?

You don't like GTAIV or MGS4.

That's what you did, sir.

bluedeviltron wrote:
rabbit wrote:

Wait, whadido?

You don't like GTAIV or MGS4.

That's what you did, sir.

You might need to find a better way to introduce yourself.

I guess I'm getting names mixed up.

bluedeviltron wrote:
rabbit wrote:

Wait, whadido?

You don't like GTAIV or MGS4.

That's what you did, sir.

I think Rabbit and I both didn't like GTA IV although I may not have it liked more. Julian has yet to play MGS4, and I absolutely loathe it. So you can't call him on that one. At this point no one is going to change my opinion on the games and I can't seem to convince everyone I am right so we'll just leave it at that. Thanks for listening!

ilduce620 wrote:

Hey, everyone... Sorry, but I'm new to the site and podcast (great discussion!), but I noticed in this podcast and the last one that you're referring to the game as "The Bourne Identity" rather than its actual name, "The Bourne Conspiracy"...

Is there something I'm missing?

They don't listen to their betters.

They've already forgotten the game you're referring to, let alone the name of it.

See, I *love* my hobby. Unfortunately, sometime my hobby doesn't love me. Then I have to teach that naughty hobby who's boss.

Gaald wrote:

At this point no one is going to change my opinion on the games and I can't seem to convince everyone I am right so we'll just leave it at that. Thanks for listening! :)

I'm there with you, Rob. You're my angry hero! When i grow up, i want to be just like you...

(Though i may secretly like GTA 4 more than you if i ever play it)

Thanks, McChuck... I scanned through the comments, but didn't look that closely...

Glad to know I'm not alone

Just to let you all know that Bill Harris just gave you guys a hell of a butt-pat on Dubious Quality. I have to agree with what he said, especially pertaining to rabbit's interview with Carmack.

Bill Harris wrote:

Today, that's just as true as it was in 2003, or 2005, or last year. Gamers With Jobs is a uniquely cool place to visit, and it's my favorite gaming website.

Plus, and I don't think this is mentioned nearly often enough, GWJ has established itself as an incredible pipeline for outstanding writers (Russ Pitts, Lara Crigger, Julian Murdoch, and a host of others).

wordsmythe wrote:
Bill Harris wrote:

High Praise

So, is it time for GoodjerCon yet?

Spaz wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Bill Harris wrote:

High Praise

So, is it time for GoodjerCon yet?

Wow! That'd be awesome.... but i don't think we could all fit in Rabbit's house.

Yeah, I think Jess might get a bit annoyed when several thousand people showed up looking for the Gin. The garage freezer can only hold a few gallons.

rabbit wrote:

Yeah, I think Jess might get a bit annoyed when several thousand people showed up looking for the Gin. The garage freezer can only hold a few gallons.

Gin?! PFFT!! Give me an irish coffee when we're playing games! Right, as soon as i win the lottery i'm going to get you all over and beat your asses at every game you bring.... on the PC...