GWJ Conference Call Episode 75

Conference Call

God of War PSP, Spanking Team Fremont, Two Charming Gentlemen From Turbine Join the Show and Discuss the Future of MMORPGs!, Your Emails and more!

This week Cardell Kerr and David Lennon from Turbine join us to talk about new Lord of The Rings Online features and the future of MMORPGs! We also have a special segment from The Lord of Leisure (samfisher) and plenty of your emails to go around! Special thanks to Daniel Lawrence Walker and Eiko Ishiwata for the new music in the last couple weeks!

To contact us, email [email protected]! Send us your thoughts on the show, pressing issues you want to talk about or whatever else is on your mind. You can even send a 30 second audio question or comment (MP3 format please) if you're so inclined.

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Show credits

Music credits: 

Intro/Outro Music - Ian Dorsch, Willowtree Audioworks

"Luna Machine" (Benoit Casey) - 0:25:09
"Garibaldi" - Ayco (Eiko Ishiwata) - eikoishiwata.com - 1:27:00

Comments

I would not be the least bit sad to see MMOs move to consoles, specifically XBL. I don't think any decent game publisher could justify an extra fee on an already pay service. That would get my attention. Until then, I await GW2.

I don't think any decent game publisher could justify an extra fee on an already pay service.

After all these years you can still summon such innocence? You sir, are a grand and glorious dreamer, and I rue the day when you see those dreams dashed to the ground like everyone else.

Just wanted to drop a line to say that this was easily your most boring podcast to date. Too much inside baseball about MMORPG stuff and neither of the guests were IMHO very interesting to listen to. Not everybody plays LOTRO; actually I'd bet that the majority of your listeners either don't play and/or have never played. It took me 3 sittings to listen to the whole thing. Heres to hoping that the next one is better.

Thanks anyways for the effort.

-Dave in Oakland

I disagree. I really rather enjoyed this podcast. It was quite good imo. I found the two turbine gentlemen to be very intriguing.

dfndoe wrote:

Just wanted to drop a line to say that this was easily your most boring podcast to date. Too much inside baseball about MMORPG stuff and neither of the guests were IMHO very interesting to listen to. Not everybody plays LOTRO; actually I'd bet that the majority of your listeners either don't play and/or have never played. It took me 3 sittings to listen to the whole thing. Heres to hoping that the next one is better.

Thanks anyways for the effort.

-Dave in Oakland

It's unfortunate you found the episode not to your liking, but that's just the way this kind of stuff goes some times. We can't please everyone all the time, and if we tried the show would be an incredible mess. Hopefully there will be plenty of other episodes you can enjoy, and if we are lucky some people who might never have listened to our show were intrigued by the discussion we had and stick around as well.

We do appreciate all our listeners though, and we hope you all keep listening.

Aaron D. wrote:

Funny that you guys mentioned 1942 during the "SHMUP" email, 'cause Capcom just announced an XBLA/PSN remake mere hours ago.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/858/...

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Yeah, the guys over at Gamerevolution.com got some stick time on that earlier in the week at capcom's press invite event.

I think the podcast comes down to what games you like to play. I didn't finish it. I don't play MMOs, so it lost me pretty quickly. I'm sure that happens to other people with other genres, though.

Gaald wrote:
dfndoe wrote:

Just wanted to drop a line to say that this was easily your most boring podcast to date. Too much inside baseball about MMORPG stuff and neither of the guests were IMHO very interesting to listen to. Not everybody plays LOTRO; actually I'd bet that the majority of your listeners either don't play and/or have never played. It took me 3 sittings to listen to the whole thing. Heres to hoping that the next one is better.

Thanks anyways for the effort.

-Dave in Oakland

It's unfortunate you found the episode not to your liking, but that's just the way this kind of stuff goes some times. We can't please everyone all the time, and if we tried the show would be an incredible mess. Hopefully there will be plenty of other episodes you can enjoy, and if we are lucky some people who might never have listened to our show were intrigued by the discussion we had and stick around as well.

We do appreciate all our listeners though, and we hope you all keep listening.

How politic Rob.
Really, I did not find the discussion to be exclusionary at all. The MMO discussion shyed away from discussing specifics, merely talking about the future of the genre. Maybe this is because I listen to all the podcasts, but it seemed to be a good general discussion of one of the more intriguing, evolving genres in gaming.

How politic Rob.

So True! I imagine it's such a labor of love with Gaald, that criticism's probably pretty hard to take. I read, "We do appreciate all our listeners though, and we hope you all keep listening," as, "GAAAHHHHH!! ROB SMASH! I HOPE YOU $@#$@%#@$"

Not unlike how "bless your heart" works in the Southern vernacular.

Nope it may sound politic and rightly so, but I have been in the entertainment industry for quite a while now and what I said in the above post is something you learn right away. Those who don't are destined to fail.

So while I would love everyone to love the show every week, that just isn't going to happen. Hopefully though for every listener there are more successes than there are failures and they keep coming back for more because of it.

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Personally, i think this episode was a little boring too. There just wasn't enough butt patting going on... when's Ken coming back? I'm looking forward to that episode. Listening to Rabbit's verbal boner is like doing *insert hardcore drug of choice here* off a cleanly-pressed AAA game disc!

Hey, I've never played an MMO, and really have no experience with RPG at all. When you geeks were playing D&D, we were playing Strat-o-Matic Baseball.

But I really enjoyed learning about what goes into a successful MMO, and lots of what was discussed can be used in other genres. In fact, what I like most about the podcasts is how much I learn about a wide spectrum of gaming, that is generally done is an informative manner, with very little bashing.

Heck, it inspired me to pick up the Witcher to give an RPG a chance. I don't think I want to go the MMO route. Too bad the Witcher crushed my iMac! Too bad I bought it via Direct2Drive. Can I trade this with someone, or am I stuck with it?

Duoae wrote:

Personally, i think this episode was a little boring too. There just wasn't enough butt patting going on... when's Ken coming back? I'm looking forward to that episode. Listening to Rabbit's verbal boner is like doing *insert hardcore drug of choice here* off a cleanly-pressed AAA game disc!

:)

I fail to see how compact discs make good rolling papers.

boogle wrote:
Duoae wrote:

Personally, i think this episode was a little boring too. There just wasn't enough butt patting going on... when's Ken coming back? I'm looking forward to that episode. Listening to Rabbit's verbal boner is like doing *insert hardcore drug of choice here* off a cleanly-pressed AAA game disc!

:)

I fail to see how compact discs make good rolling papers.

Change your drug of choice.

DSGamer wrote:

I think the podcast comes down to what games you like to play. I didn't finish it. I don't play MMOs, so it lost me pretty quickly. I'm sure that happens to other people with other genres, though.

I personally fast forward through parts that I find not appealing to my interests or I zone out and kind of make the podcast like background noise in a restaurant. Then, they will say something I'm interested in and start listening again. It's a pretty laid back podcast so if you think of it in terms of a general discussion at a convention; How often do you start looking around the lobby and people watch when the discussion goes on a tangent? I know I do quite a bit.

You are there participating for the parts of the discussion you enjoy. I appreciate the podcast and I understand that not everyone is going to like every single one. That's just the way it goes. Right now the only MMORPG I care about is Age of Conan. Everything else is just background.

You guys made the front page of the LOTRO site:

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...

necroyeti wrote:

You guys made the front page of the LOTRO site:

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...

and discuss topics like gaming while holding a baby, how hard it is to be a monster, the future of MMO games, and do developers respect their customers? (The answer is "YES!")

Bah.... i need to start writing in a clearer fashion... any advice?

Bah.... i need to start writing in a clearer fashion... any advice?

This is for everyone - If there are three or more paragraphs to the email, I will probably just pick my own question that vaguely sounds like what you're asking. As ironic as this advice sounds from me, be brief.

Elysium wrote:

This is for everyone - If there are three or more paragraphs to the email, I will probably just pick my own question that vaguely sounds like what you're asking. As ironic as this advice sounds from me, be brief.

Nah, i don't think that was so much of a problem. Your question was what i'd written to be fair. I'd phrased it in such a way as to be 'controversial' but it backfired by obscuring the real meat of the discussion i was aiming for. You're not to blame, Elysium.

Well, to be fair, you also didn't know we were going to spring it on some developers too, making it sound that much more controversial.

Stylez wrote:
Wait. How was Burnout Paradise not taking a chance? They took a tried and true formula and basically ripped it up in favor of putting faith in gamers enjoying their open world. I've grown to love it. I just think it takes spending more than a couple hours with it. Spend a couple hours with it and you may get annoyed it isn't Burnout 3. Play it a few hours more and you may find that the new Burnout game they made is something special. Either way, how did Criterion not take a chance with Burnout?

I agree completely. Burnout Paradise doesn't really open up until you've played enough to know the city. Once you know the city and the turns you'll crash a lot less and have more fun. Like Ninja Gaiden: Black though, it's not for everyone.

I came into the thread to say the same thing. I understand that the appeal of Burnout Paradise may not be universal, but it was anything but safe. Criterion really risked a lot by changing the Burnout formula with the open world gameplay and no loading while still looking amazing and running smooth. That's not to mention the seamless online integration. It seems like because you weren't feeling the changes to the game, the game is classified as being pushed for the masses.