GWJ Conference Call Episode 28

Conference Call

A Slow Game Week Leads To Insanity, Console Pulse Check, Websites That Can't Stick To Their Guns, Game Music, A Contest Update and more!

You have got to be kidding me. Really? I can't believe rabbit actually went there ... and with his daughter no less! Tune in for old school craziness, your emails, our thread of the week and a quick contest update.

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Music credits: 

Intro/Outro Music - Ian Dorsch, Willowtree Audioworks

"Dc 3000" Thievery Corporation The Wired CD - 0:14:13
"Terra" - Chico Correa & Electronic Band - 0:37:15

Comments

Rebates kind of suck - the store/company counts on a certain number of people not following up on the rebate or not cashing their check in time or whatever, but they get to advertise the lower price. It can also take a while for the check to arrive. I won't usually bite on a rebate if it's something like $40 off a $60 item but I wasn't strongly considering buying the $60 item to begin with. However for something I was already looking at (a PSP after the price drop last month) a rebate can give that final push, and particularly choose one store over another.

Certis wrote:
ccranium wrote:

Regarding Full House DVDS, Season 6 was just released. The Tanners go to New Zealand!

Get me my noose.

Truly a sign of the apocalypse.

Certis playing hoop and stick (w/ olde tyme headset)

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From wikipedia's entry on hoop and stick:

Hoop rolling races have been traditionally held at the close of each academic year at the Seven Sisters colleges. Seniors will line up with their hoops before graduation. The race's winner will be the first woman in her class to reach some goal, the exact title varies depending on the school.

My wife went to one of those schools, and this definitely didn't happen then. I know because ridiculing her for it would have been memorable.

jmdanny wrote:

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That pillow is totally a makeshift bundling board.

Don't get pregnant, Certis!

I saw this and instantly thought of this.

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Fun fact about our sleeping arrangements. Elysium's luggage was taken by some old lady at the airport, so he only had the clothes on his back. He slept in them anyways*. My musky animal attractiveness knows not the bounds of sex, creed or color. His fears of unconsciously breaching the pillow barrier were very real and well warranted.

*He also wore them the next day at E3, which really just means he fit in better.

Crouton wrote:

Certis playing hoop and stick (w/ olde tyme headset)

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I guess where he came from you get one pair of trousers at birth and have to make them last the rest of your life...

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From wikipedia's entry on hoop and stick:

Hoop rolling races have been traditionally held at the close of each academic year at the Seven Sisters colleges.

Interesting and almost completely unrelated: The hills near Eastbourne (England) are called The Seven Sisters. Do you know what those colleges where named after?

Certis wrote:
You're all smart guys, so I think it's probably time for one of you to start paying attention to the PSP. It's not the failure you guys assume it is. You've been reduced to playing ancient PC games between big hits for the Xbox 360 for crying out loud.

Hey now, don't forget the Wii and the DS! We just finished talking about Super Paper Mario and Puzzle Quest, for example. Until the PSP gets better battery life and drops in price more, I won't be paying for a premium portable device I won't likely play all that often.

I don't mind in the least that GWJ isn't an all-encompassing game site that gives objective coverage to each and every gaming abortion on the planet. Goodjers keep it real.

Certis wrote:

Fun fact about our sleeping arrangements. Elysium's luggage was taken by some old lady at the airport, so he only had the clothes on his back. He slept in them anyways*. My musky animal attractiveness knows not the bounds of sex, creed or color. His fears of unconsciously breaching the pillow barrier were very real and well warranted.

*He also wore them the next day at E3, which really just means he fit in better.

Wow, I just threw up so much.

Demiurge wrote:

Wow, I just threw up so much.

I think I'm going to have to call in sick tomorrow.

souldaddy wrote:
Certis wrote:
You're all smart guys, so I think it's probably time for one of you to start paying attention to the PSP. It's not the failure you guys assume it is. You've been reduced to playing ancient PC games between big hits for the Xbox 360 for crying out loud.

Hey now, don't forget the Wii and the DS! We just finished talking about Super Paper Mario and Puzzle Quest, for example. Until the PSP gets better battery life and drops in price more, I won't be paying for a premium portable device I won't likely play all that often.

I don't mind in the least that GWJ isn't an all-encompassing game site that gives objective coverage to each and every gaming abortion on the planet. Goodjers keep it real.

Seconded. Because none of the people on the podcast actually owns a PSP or plays it regularly, trying to talk about a system they don't have much feeling for is just not going to make a very fun show.

Wow.. you guys couldnt be more wrong about IPTV.. I attended a function over last weekend with a bunch of Comcast guys.. and yeah.. your really off base if you think Comcast isnt looking at IPTV and Microsoft.. the old players in the settop box arent really making the technology strides that Comcast is looking for down the road.

Certis is on the right track though.. and with true IPTV it doesnt matter if you only have a 20gb HD.. most of the content is cached and then streamed.

I don't disagree that IPTV is, in general, important and coming down fast (Comcast's Fan is a great example of that).

My contention is that I don't see the 360 as the magic bullet for this. CAN IPTV go to a 360, sure. Does it actually make sense for most consumers? I don't think so. If you're going to but a STB in my living room with a hard drive, I sure has hell don't want TWO of them -- one for IPTV and one for DVR. DVR increasingly means HD DVR, that means bigtime manufacturing cost efficiencies to make real. I just don't see Microsoft edging out SA and Motorola for the core STB market. I know many analysts have other ideas, I just think the installed base of SA technicians and SAs massive lead in core STB functionality will survive.

I can imagine 100 ways to be wrong, of course.

Duoae wrote:

Interesting and almost completely unrelated: The hills near Eastbourne (England) are called The Seven Sisters. Do you know what those colleges where named after?

I think from Greek mythology. The Seven Sisters were nymphs that were in Artemis's crew.

one for IPTV and one for DVR. DVR increasingly means HD DVR, that means bigtime manufacturing cost efficiencies to make real. I just don't see Microsoft edging out SA and Motorola for the core STB market.

You have to remove the idea that DVR demands an internal HD in the settop box to begin with. Streaming technology improvements could mean that all your content is cached at the network and streamed to you on demand. You pick and choose from your GUI the shows you want "recorded" and back at the network those are available to you as soon as you "push a button" on a remote from home... and hate them or love them.. Microsoft is making progress in streaming technology.

Furthermore.. Microsoft is all about centralizing storage in your home.. away from your 360, and eventually even from your PC.

Certis is on the right track.. what we could see from the Cable Co's and IP Telcos is a Microsoft branded STB that also happens to be a 360 device. Where through partnerships all partners have a dip in the various value adds.

Certis is on the right track though
Certis is on the right track..

I could listen to that allllllllll day.

Certis wrote:
Certis is on the right track though
Certis is on the right track..

I could listen to that allllllllll day.

The only thing better is one's wife saying those three sweet words: "You were right."

rabbit wrote:

I will admit I sold my PSP too, and have not played a current (last 4-5 months) PSP release.

I will also say "my bad" -- I did in fact know they had done some downloadable content. What I LONGED for with my PSP was actual online gameplay, something the DS has done rather well. Head to head Kart or chat sessions during a game of Chess all work brilliantly.

If there's more stuff and a nicer form factor, I may reup

There are a bunch of games with very good online gameplay these days, but I'm not sure if there's one with Chess and chat. Voice chat has been absent from some of the online-playable games for no good reason. Infuriatingly often it's just ad-hoc only. That's enough to make me not even try a game.

The best online shooter is a tossup between the hardcore Syphon Filter Dark Mirror, and the online gameplay for MGS: Portable Ops. The matching/menu system for MGSPO is a stellar demonstration of how to do a PSP online service perfectly, and the SFDM matching/menu system is really excellent. MGSPO doesn't support voice chat, while SFDM does.

I'm still outraged that Monster Hunter Freedom and its sequel have online adhoc WiFi play. MHF has a persistent-world quality with the land you get and upgrade to grow materials to do crafting that kept me wanting to play it ALL the time.

As for the form factor, the PSP is bulky compared to what the DS offers, but it really needs body armor on top of that to protect the screen and protect it from drops, and that bulks it up even more. I'm using a Pelican case right now but will probably upgrade to the Logitech PlayGear Street case. I've put a joystick top where the analog nub top was and that actually damaged a UMD case or two when they were in the Pelican case with the PSP.

I heard from a birdie that the 360 will get cablecard one of these years.

IPTV though is far away. The reason is easy. BAndwidth. You can't snap your fingers and overnight give everyone fiber to the curb or home. That buildout is going to take a long long time and so I don't see the IPTV thang doing anything for the 360 anytime soon. Making next-gen.

And speaking of what is basically server-side DVR well Comcast already offers Video on Demand which is basically the same thing. The ability to watch content whenever you want. IT's limited as far as the content offerings go so far, but it's there.

Guru,

Great thoughts. I did some work in another life (years ago) as some of the first VoD stuff was going in, and my memories have pretty much burned into me the thought that the guys in headends were way to incompetent to handle a 100 terabytes of stored TV reliably. I loathe my cable company with a passion that knows no bounds. I went to an HDPVR box from them because it was essentially the only way to get 2HD tuners and fleixible storage. I could theoretically have done it in my MCE box, but not without some major coin.

I remain skeptical (but hopefull will be proven wrong) that a MSFT branded STB/Cable Company service combo that effectively replaces my HDPVR, my 360, and my MCE machine will exist in the next 5 years. I admit my requirements aren't those of a casual user. But I don't think the guy who wants any kind of IPTV/DVR/360 combo is a casual user either.

As much as I think MCE is an awesome product, I still think MSFT has a long way to go before they achieve the kind of home-media ubiquity they promise.

trip1eX wrote:

I heard from a birdie that the 360 will get cablecard one of these years.

IPTV though is far away. The reason is easy. BAndwidth. You can't snap your fingers and overnight give everyone fiber to the curb or home. That buildout is going to take a long long time and so I don't see the IPTV thang doing anything for the 360 anytime soon. Making next-gen.

I have IPTV on my regular 6 Mbit DSL conenction and it works just fine.

Infinity wrote:
Certis wrote:
Certis is on the right track though
Certis is on the right track..

I could listen to that allllllllll day.

The only thing better is one's wife saying those three sweet words: "You were right."

What about, "That's the biggest one i've ever seen?"

Duoae wrote:

What about, "That's the biggest one i've ever seen?"

Yeah but you only get to buy a new plasma TV every so often.

Depends if you enjoy fishing or not. Of course, lying about size never works out and photographic evidence is usually required. But i have to admit, to most people, a big fish is pretty much a big fish...

[edit]GAH! Fixed horrible english...