GWJ Conference Call Episode Eight

Conference Call

The Return of Shawn From India, Final Fantasy XII, Dark Messiah of Might & Magic, Tony Hawk's Project 8, Bold Predictions About The New Consoles, Is There Such a Thing As Too Buggy? and more!

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Shawn makes his return to the hosting chair as Julian sticks around, making the Conference Call a four man show! The guys get all caught up on what they've been playing, the rapidly approaching console launches and why Shawn really doesn't think Rob should buy a Wii. Elysium's lack of willpower, sexual attraction to Final Fantasy characters, game bugs and answers to your email questions!

If anyone would like to submit some original music for the show, read on for a link to contact us! Also read on for show notes.

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The Links
Final Fantasy XII
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Clubhouse Games
Tony Hawk's Project 8

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Show credits

Music credits: 

Intro/Outro Music - Ian Dorsch, Willowtree Audioworks

"One Big Holiday" My Morning Jacket The Wired CD
"Small Comfort" - Apoplexia (Benoit Casey) - 0:30:28
"The Neverwhere" - Apoplexia (Benoit Casey) - 1:16:30
"Impeller" - Ian Dorsch - 1:31:35

Comments

The itunes version seems to be cut off again. The first six minutes are GREAT though.

Desram wrote:

The itunes version seems to be cut off again. The first six minutes are GREAT though. ;)

Just try it again Desram, I downloaded it off itunes and it seems to be all there.

GIANT METAL SUIT?

Rabbit, give me a buzz on XBL sometime and we'll try getting you into our Chromehounds squad if you're not already in. I can hook you up with some nice parts. There's about 20 times as many parts in the online mode as in single player.

Gaald wrote:
Desram wrote:

The itunes version seems to be cut off again. The first six minutes are GREAT though. ;)

Just try it again Desram, I downloaded it off itunes and it seems to be all there.

I'm starting to dislike iTunes. It only downloads 11.5mb of the file... which is like 25min of the podcast.

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Does it matter which version of iTunes I have?

I'm starting to dislike iTunes. It only downloads 11.5mb of the file... which is like 25min of the podcast.

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Does it matter which version of iTunes I have?

I don't think so. Make sure you aren't using a proxy with Internet Explorer, because that will bugger up Itunes.

I don't think the cut-off downloads are normal, we've been hearing about it too much. I've gone ahead and moved the current show to a new server that rabbit runs, let me know if you still have the issue!

Gaald, if you're really hard up for a game while jogging, you might try this.

And for those of us that don't have a DS to bring with us into the bathroom, there are other games.

Suggesting the PS3 might have a user friendly interface is the boldest prediction of all.

My show cut off at something like 83 minutes during the thread of the week segment. I downloaded via the direct link, not Itunes

polypusher wrote:

Suggesting the PS3 might have a user friendly interface is the boldest prediction of all.

My show cut off at something like 83 minutes during the thread of the week segment. I downloaded via the direct link, not Itunes

Before or after I changed it? Try this link and let me know if it grabs the whole thing.

Gaald wrote:

Make sure you aren't using a proxy with Internet Explorer, because that will bugger up Itunes.

I bypass our proxy server, so it should not affect it.

Also, I think once Certis moved it to a different server... I got a full show. Actually, I got 2 of them... 1 that is 25min and the other is the full 1hr45min.

The people here have recently installed a new firewall and we are not allowed to download mp3 files anymore. Would it be possible to zip the show so that I can get it?

meh, this watchguard soft is now my number one enemy.

Certis wrote:

Before or after I changed it? Try this link and let me know if it grabs the whole thing.

If the full version is supposed to be 1 hour and 45 minutes, then the one I just downloaded from your link works. The one I got last night was at about midnight (PST)

Certis wrote:

I don't think the cut-off downloads are normal, we've been hearing about it too much. I've gone ahead and moved the current show to a new server that rabbit runs, let me know if you still have the issue!

The cutting issue is definitely on the posting side. The only other time it has happened to me is with the Penny-arcade podcast.

The show completely kicked ass, by the by.

resist wrote:

The people here have recently installed a new firewall and we are not allowed to download mp3 files anymore. Would it be possible to zip the show so that I can get it?

meh, this watchguard soft is now my number one enemy.

Here you go, a zip of the show! We may make this a regular thing, we'll see.

21 minutes of the show in the first download * , last podcast I have exactly the same problem.

*there were only 2 comments in this thread at that moment, so I think that was from "old" server.

--) You're not allowed to use the word "tight". For any reason.

--) Everyone played FFXI very briefly. Because it sucked. And their PlayOnline service sucks even harder. Why do you think they went back away from the MMORG stuff?

--) And yes, we're all attracted to Balthier. You and my daughters can get together and crunch. But he's just the tip of the iceberg. It's not as bad as Magna Carta, but it's bad enough for all that even if you're not talking about the Hugh Heffner extras. I keep waiting for a Sir Auron type to break up the bishie and so far it's nowhere. I want to drop some sort of Testerone Bomb on the whole place so all the guys don't look like 15-year-old girls or refugees from an 80's hair band. Or am I the only person who keeps expecting Vayne Solidor to break into "Don't Stop Believing".

--) I've played the new Splinter Cell. It rocks right out loud. It ate my 360, so I'm disgruntled. Okay, so maybe the fact that my sons pretty much put the thing to work for three days straight powering through this probably had something to do with it. If you want, I can hook you up with my eldest son who's spent the most time on it if you're jonesing.

--) Please don't beat the mouse vs. controller thing into the ground again.

--) They do sell Guitar Hero II without the controller, but you definately want another guitar. I got one with Guitar Hero, and then I bought one with the second game and they both work on both. Oh, and "Ugh" on the naked, two-fisted Guitar Hero.

--) HEY! I'm buying a Wii. As far as why, it's all about the games. Twilight Princess, Red Steel and Rayman 4.

--) Seriously, you guys only have one or two systems apiece!? I mean, you're seriously making a choice between having only one system or the other? Wow.

Bold PS3 Predictions Section

--) Sony's bleeding exclusives. Sly is gone multi-platform. Have you SEEN what they did to the next Gran Turismo with the micropayments crap? And with Mystwalker going 360 exclusive with Lost Odysee and Blue Dragon you've got strong contenders against FFXIII even in Japan. Kojima has already said that his next title will also go to the 360 and will probably not be a MGS game.

The PS3 has MGS4 and Final Fantasy XIII still exclusive at this point. Never underestimate those two IP's. Even with that idiotic gray soup-catcher and with the Metal Gears mooing this time around. Luckily, thanks to both of those games slipping out until next summer I don't have to do this until next year.

--) Guys, the end of cycle games are always better. Crystal Chronicles on the GameCube kicks a lot of Xbox360 games to the curb, just for sheer pretty graphics. That knowledge base gained over the life of the system does matter.

--) Don't forget the price of the games themselves when you're bitching about the cost of the console and it's effect on the sales. $100 a pop is an ugly thing for attachment rates. And attachment rate means a heck of a lot more for the bottom line than console sales because that's how you actually make the money you lost on the hardware purchase back.

--) Hardware failure rate is no joke for the PS3. They've got an insane failure rate on the processors in manufacturing. That's not counting the rest of the new hardware packed in that little box. And that's just the ones that they've caught. 35% isn't a reasonable rate. But a knowledgable little birdie I know tells me that 10%+ is.

--) Comments about Resistance and Centralized Servers: So the less than 10% of gamers who give a rat's bikini about that degree of performance (and aren't just blaming the fact that they suck on "lag") in those sorts of games or would care about the difference are going to get a good experience, but everyone else who considers the good front-end a higher priority so they can find/manage their experience are going to get screwed when they loose that centralized interface because Sony has already said they're letting each game developer do their own thing. And this is a good business decision?

--) Sony can't afford to move away from North America. None of them can. You're talking about them gnawing off their entire torso rather than just a leg.

Buggy Games

--) Yes, BSOD Squares is a valid game if you're into that sort of experience.

RPGs

--) As far as the graphics stuff, how well did Disgaia 2 do? If you're looking for a recent but still very old school, you can't go wrong with it, dood. For the 360, it's all about Enchanted Arms.

--) Why isn't that Luddite guy who wrote playing Fire Emblem? If he wants that sort of REALLY old school experience.

Seriously, you guys only have one or two systems apiece!? I mean, you're seriously making a choice between having only one system or the other? Wow.

For clarity's sake I have all of last generation's consoles along with the 360, DS and PC. Until I see a library of reason to pick up either new console, I'll pass.

Oh, and thanks for the show blog. I kinda like that. Made me grin.

My PS3 prediction is that the optical drive will have huge problems. Whether it is the media itself (PS2 blue disc error anyone?) or the drive itself (PS2 drive failure anyone?) How about overheating? Kiosks are already being reported of overheating.

I would be more than happy to own all three consoles, unfortunately my pocket book and everyone I owe money to wouldn't. So for now the best I can do is the 360, and the Wii (which is already pushing it). If Sony wants to send me a PS3 for free. I would be more than happy to take it. Than again if the money was right I would probably flip it and use the money for other things.

Interesting enough that I had to turn it off during work because I was getting nothing done.

Constructive criticism: the PS3 segment lacked focus and was too long (that would be prolix to you, Elysium). I don't know how you fix that in a show that consists of four guys gossiping about video games.

Elysium wrote:

Oh, and thanks for the show blog. I kinda like that. Made me grin.

No problem. I'm glad you liked it. I was in the test lab listening and I couldn't just talk back to my monitor like usual so I wrote it out and I figured WTHeck.

Great show guys. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who has playing Zelda in widescreen as one of his primary motivations for buying a Wii.

Also:

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Oh, it's on. Yes indeed, on like Donkey Kong.

--) Seriously, you guys only have one or two systems apiece!? I mean, you're seriously making a choice between having only one system or the other? Wow.

Yes, the blog was excellent. But hold on a second, let me unzip my pants here. I own an Xbox 360 (gave away the original Xbox), PS2, Gamecube, DS Lite and a kick-ass PC. At this point it looks like I'll be getting a Wii after all, so that only leaves the PSP and PS3 out in the cold right now. I won't have the size of my gamer endowments questioned!

--) Don't forget the price of the games themselves when you're bitching about the cost of the console and it's effect on the sales. $100 a pop is an ugly thing for attachment rates.

Zah? All of the games are $59.99 US, just like the Xbox 360.

--) Comments about Resistance and Centralized Servers: So the less than 10% of gamers who give a rat's bikini about that degree of performance (and aren't just blaming the fact that they suck on "lag") in those sorts of games or would care about the difference are going to get a good experience, but everyone else who considers the good front-end a higher priority so they can find/manage their experience are going to get screwed when they loose that centralized interface because Sony has already said they're letting each game developer do their own thing. And this is a good business decision?

Two different topics here. First, when I'm talking about Xbox Live multiplayer issues, I'm not talking incidentals like minor lag and high pings. I'm talking unplayable connections and dropped games here, things even "normal" people notice when they try to play online. Secondly, Sony's online service will have universal usernames and all the emails, private messaging, demo downloads, chat functions etc. will be centralized and standard. Game lobbies, achievements and any additionals will be up to the publisher/developer.

I'm the last guy to be defending Sony here, but there's a good deal of misinformation floating around out there. Mainly Sony's fault, of course

Best Buy lists all games for the Wii at $49.99.

Yes, the blog was excellent. But hold on a second, let me unzip my pants here. I own an Xbox 360 (gave away the original Xbox), PS2, Gamecube, DS Lite and a kick-ass PC. At this point it looks like I'll be getting a Wii after all, so that only leaves the PSP and PS3 out in the cold right now. I won't have the size of my gamer endowments questioned!

My gamer endowments are just like Certis! LOVE ME!

Great show guys. Curious how the whole microtransaction hell as well as the massive install size for PS3 games (5gb install on some games on a 20gb drive?) didn't get mentioned.

Nevertheless. I have 1 hour left of excruciating work then hopefully I can fire up GOW!

You guys are great, I haven't checked this one out but I can't tell you how much entertainment I got out of these when I was traveling, thanks for the show =)

Certis wrote:

I'm the last guy to be defending Sony here, but there's a good deal of misinformation floating around out there. Mainly Sony's fault, of course ;)

If you could give me some pointers to your information, I'd greatly appreciate it. I didn't pull this out of my left ear. I've been going off information from some third party developers I know and I'd much rather have sources that I can actually quote without getting them fired. If you've got something more it would be a real help.

Oh, and as far as you other guys, I'm not dropping my pants and I'm not showing you my bewbs either.

momgamer wrote:
Certis wrote:

I'm the last guy to be defending Sony here, but there's a good deal of misinformation floating around out there. Mainly Sony's fault, of course ;)

If you could give me some pointers to your information, I'd greatly appreciate it. I didn't pull this out of my left ear. I've been going off information from some third party developers I know and I'd much rather have sources that I can actually quote without getting them fired. If you've got something more it would be a real help.

Oh, and as far as you other guys, I'm not dropping my pants and I'm not showing you my bewbs either. ;)

Show us your ... sources! Woo!

Well, for game prices you can check any store of course. But I guess this EB listing of COD3 for the PS3 is good enough. Most games are $59.99.

Networking stuff, from Gamespot via Sony press release on Oct 26th.

In addition to account creation and the ability to sign in or out of one's account, Sony listed a number of basic, free services provided by PlayStation Network. These included block and friend-list features, and a message box for storing messages and file attachments from other users. Furthermore, the chat feature will allow users to talk to each other via video and voice.

Online gaming features will consist of a matching service, lobby where players can exchange pleasantries, scoreboards, and a shop service for purchasing game items. The press release gave Ridge Racer 7 from Namco Bandai and Resistance: Fall of Man from SCEA as examples of launch titles confirmed to support online modes.

Downloadable PS3 games that will be available through the PlayStation Store were also detailed. On November 11, when the system launches in Japan, three games will be available for download: Blast Factor (working title) and the free game Mainichi Issho from Sony Computer Entertainment, and a Ridge Racer 7 demo from Namco Bandai. Sony is also working on flOw, Lemmings, Kazuo, and Puzzle (working title) for this service, but release dates are as of yet unknown. Free demos of all the pay titles will be available so players can try before they buy.

If you heard otherwise on price or online stuff from developer friends even a month or two ago, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know all the details. It seems like Sony has kept nearly everybody in the dark about this stuff.

In general, I write game news every day and I make a point of listening to a huge array of podcasts and reading developer blogs on a daily basis. I pick things up all over the place, it's hard to nail down where I remember hearing select bits of info. Hope that helps!

Certis wrote:

Here you go, a zip of the show! We may make this a regular thing, we'll see.

Well, sorry I made you work for nothing, I still can't download the show. I figured I'd be able to download it as a zip since I am able to download the Gamespot video review of GoW (which is a zip file).

I'm pretty sure I'm on watchguard's black list now. It's doing this out of hatred for me. I just know it.

Alien13z wrote:

Constructive criticism: the PS3 segment lacked focus and was too long (that would be prolix to you, Elysium). I don't know how you fix that in a show that consists of four guys gossiping about video games.

Thanks, criticism is always appreciated.

Having four of us definately made it run long, but some of it was also the pent up enthusiasm of having Certis to beat on. I still can't believe his big spiritual revelation is (cue the hunchback voice) -- "I like games."

And you shoulda been there, I think Gaald had to cut this down from, what was it, 9 hours of raw recording? 10?