NCAA Football 2011 Season Catch-All

i38warhawk wrote:

There are two stats from the TAMU/SMU game that make me happy as a Razorback fan. TAMU's third down efficiency (1-6) and time of position (-7:28). I think if we see similar stats next week I'm going to relax a little.

If y'all see similar stats next week, I'll relax a little myself - widespread hallucinogen use at Arkansas can only be good for the Aggies.

(The Aggies are off next week).

But seriously - the time of possession is related to how quickly we scored on them. Can that stat really matter in a blowout where we won by about 30 points and shut them out after the first quarter?

Fedaykin98 wrote:

This game must be a real weenie-shrinker for Jayhawker, although you'd need a micrometer to know for sure.

Wow. Luckily I don't measure my self worth by what other people think of my favorite sports teams. It would be awfully hard to be a sports fan if I took criticism of the team so personal.

The Aggies pretty much punched SMU in te mouth. Padron was horrible, and their defense was not in the same class. Had SMU not tanked their first two drives, I think they might have hung in there. I thought there was a shot when it was 20-14 and SMU had the ball. But Padron's two early picks eliminated any room for error, so when that drive stalled, it was pretty much over.

The Aggies OL was just too much. It was pretty clear that A&M was going to score most every time they had the ball. SMU's only shot was keeping it close enough to keep running the ball.

I was wrong, though. I do think you will fit into the SEC just fine.

I know that this has been mentioned before, but some of the new uniforms look like they have been molested by the proverbial ugly stick. I think that Maryland last night was the final straw for me. Please, someone get Nike and Under Armor out of the fashion design business, they are horrible.

Ego Man wrote:

I know that this has been mentioned before, but some of the new uniforms look like they have been molested by the proverbial ugly stick. I think that Maryland last night was the final straw for me. Please, someone get Nike and Under Armor out of the fashion design business, they are horrible.

Shut your whore mouth. Those MD unis were awesome.

Okay, they sucked, but hey, we scored a win against a suspension riddled University of Miami. That's something, right?

Any time the "u" gets beat, that is a good thing.

Ego Man wrote:

Any time the "u" gets beat, that is a good thing.

Too true, my friend. Too true.

Ego Man wrote:

Any time the "u" gets beat, that is a good thing.

+1

Texas A&M press conference announcing acceptance to SEC is coming tomorrow.

MyBrainHz wrote:

Texas A&M press conference announcing acceptance to SEC is coming tomorrow.

Guess I gotta start hating A&M now

A&M acceptance to SEC contingent on waiver of litigation

Chip Brown
Orangebloods.com Columnist

Hold everything folks.

The Southeastern Conference presidents met Tuesday night and voted to admit Texas A&M. But the vote came with a stipulation that still must be worked out.

The SEC presidents voted to admit Texas A&M as the 13th member of that league so long as each individual member of the Big 12 waives its right to litigation against the SEC.

And it was unclear Tuesday night if all nine remaining members of the Big 12 would waive that right, sources said. The Big 12 schools were expected to discuss the matter on Wednesday, sources said. That's the same day Texas A&M has planned a celebration in College Station to announce its admission into the SEC, sources said.

If even one of the Big 12 schools refuse to waive their right to sue the SEC over its courtship of Texas A&M, the SEC could withdraw its vote to admit A&M, sources said.

After letters were exchanged by SEC commissioner Mike Slive and Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe Tuesday, Beebe told Slive the Big 12 conference office had waived its right to litigate against Texas A&M or the SEC but that the Big 12's waiver was not binding on the individual members of the Big 12, sources said.

The SEC indicated it would admit Texas A&M only upon condition that each individual member of the Big 12 waive its right to sue the SEC, sources said.

And that condition was in doubt Tuesday night, sources said.

Stay tuned.

Oooh, Texas gets another chance to screw A&M just because they can.

*re-fills popcorn and grabs another beer*

It's not Texas, it's Baylor. They have no options if the Big XII blows up (outside of mid-major conferences) so they're looking for a payday.

EDIT: Also, Chip Brown is a f*cking tool, and he's been wrong on this whole deal way more times than he's been right.

I hope they all sue. Kansas would rather the Big 12 stay together, even with mean, old Texas. The least the schools can do is make A&M pay up before getting out. The idea that they can get off scott free because their move tanks the conference is bullsh*t.

I see know reason to just let them go until they pay out the full exit fee. A&M wants to negotiate it down, fine. But I don't see a good reason to reward their impatience.

Press conference now postponed, gah.

Jayhawker, the issue is not that A&M is trying to avoid paying exit fees (or rather, accepting the withholding for this year's conf distribution) - A&M admin were planning to do that before OU and OSU got serious about the PAC-12. The issue is that Baylor is desperate and will do anything they can to stop A&M from leaving because they assume that's what will kill the conference.

Attention Ken Starr: the conference is dead anyway.

karmajay wrote:
Ego Man wrote:

Any time the "u" gets beat, that is a good thing.

+1

Amen, preach on.

I hate this trend. This may be a little "get off my lawn" but I have fond memories (pre-BCS) of going to BYU games in Provo. Those games mattered because of geographical and historical rivalries. Same with the Pac-10.

DSGamer wrote:

I hate this trend. This may be a little "get off my lawn" but I have fond memories (pre-BCS) of going to BYU games in Provo. Those games mattered because of geographical and historical rivalries. Same with the Pac-10.

It's pretty much why I hope Kansas goes to the Big ast with K-State and Mizzou. they can play in a division with other midwest teams like Cincinnati in football and Marquette in basketball, as well as its old Big Eight rivals. The PAC-12 seems too out of the way.

I don't mind change, but it would be nice if teams could be counted on for more than one year. Heck, can the Big East count on Mizzou, who think they are too good for the Big 12 or Big East, and really believe they should be Big 10 or SEC team?

SEC Celebration postponed

A&M had been preparing for a major announcement today to celebrate its entry into the Southeastern Conference.
But the party has been postponed at least a day as the Aggies contend with possible litigation threats from Big 12 schools. The Big 12, itself, already has waived its right to sue A&M. There are reports suggesting Baylor is the school holding up the process.

Baylor didn't throw a hissy fit when NU and CU left for greener pastures.

Ask TCU, SMU, UH, and Rice what they think of Baylor, who left them all behind to join the Big XII when the SWC blew up.

DSGamer wrote:

I hate this trend. This may be a little "get off my lawn" but I have fond memories (pre-BCS) of going to BYU games in Provo. Those games mattered because of geographical and historical rivalries. Same with the Pac-10.

The world has gone to hell in handbasket since the SWC died.

Hearing now that Baylor is backing off.

Jayhawker wrote:

It's pretty much why I hope Kansas goes to the Big ast with K-State and Mizzou. ...

What do you think of the ACC? Seriously.

Our columnist pitched that today. The ACC's next round of expansion will be more about hoops than football, and KU, by all accounts, has had some success at basketball.

You all ought to start putting down some sand in the quad and investing in a wave pool.

Enix wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

It's pretty much why I hope Kansas goes to the Big ast with K-State and Mizzou. ...

What do you think of the ACC? Seriously.

Our columnist pitched that today. The ACC's next round of expansion will be more about hoops than football, and KU, by all accounts, has had some success at basketball.

You all ought to start putting down some sand in the quad and investing in a wave pool. :D

I think Kansas could be in basketball and football divisions with Cincinnati, Louisville, Marquette, Notre Dame and Depaul in addition to K State and Mizzou without having to travel so far. I live in St. Louis, and I see what a debacle the Atlantic 10 has been for Sant Louis University. When the Conference USA basketball league imploded, SLU screwed up by going to the Atlantic 10 over the Missouri Valley.

And as good as the ACC is, the Big East is Hoops Nirvana. I'd rather see Kansas travel to the west coast as part of a PAC-16 than go to the ACC.

Enix wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

It's pretty much why I hope Kansas goes to the Big ast with K-State and Mizzou. ...

What do you think of the ACC? Seriously.

Our columnist pitched that today. The ACC's next round of expansion will be more about hoops than football, and KU, by all accounts, has had some success at basketball.

You all ought to start putting down some sand in the quad and investing in a wave pool. :D

I think the Hawks having a regular game against Ol'Roy would be a hit.

A&M seems like they are playing this worse than your average Big brother contestant.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/breakin...

Baylor was among six Big 12 schools that will not sign a waiver to allow Texas A&M to go to the Southeastern Conference following a meeting of the Big 12 presidents Wednesday afternoon, a source close to Baylor told the Tribune-Herald.

The other schools were Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Iowa State and Missouri.

If Oklahoma reaffirms its commitment to the Big 12, the schools are expected to sign the waiver that would allow the Aggies to go to the SEC without any legal action. The Sooners, who are reportedly considering a move to the Pac-12, are expected to make their decision within the next two weeks.

As I figured, there is no good reason to make this easy on A&M. The Aggies did not have as pat of a hand as they thought.

I caught SEC Storied: Herschel, tonight. It is a great documentary, that even you non-SEC fans will enjoy.

He really looks like he could still suit up today.

Haters in dying conferences are gonna hate.

i38warhawk wrote:

Haters in dying conferences are gonna hate.

True. True.

A&M wasn't expecting this, because afaik this is the first time someone has tried to sue over a team changing conferences. We followed the Big 12's exit protocols, just like Colorado and Nebraska. We expected to pay exit fees (in reality, withholdings, as MBH said), just like Colorado and Nebraska. We hoped to negotiate them down, just like Colorado and Nebraska.

Now Baylor and a cast of cretins want to sue? For what? Teams change conferences on a regular, perhaps not yearly, basis. They didn't sue NU and CU, who started the exodus - and got off with paying far less than the contractual exit fees. How is the third man out more deserving of legal threats and full exit fees than the first two? It defies logic.

It kills me to say this, but one reason I know we will still get to the SEC is because UT will not want a new precedent of 'til death do us part for athletic conferences. Those guys want more than anything to call their own shots and control their situation. It also sounds like OU wants off the Titanic. There is no way to stabilize the Big 12 long-term by holding A&M hostage. In reality, the conference's best chance for survival was to let us go amicably and immediately replace us. That chance has been significantly and ironically reduced by Baylor's insane tantrum.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
i38warhawk wrote:

Haters in dying conferences are gonna hate.

True. True.

A&M wasn't expecting this, because afaik this is the first time someone has tried to sue over a team changing conferences. We followed the Big 12's exit protocols, just like Colorado and Nebraska. We expected to pay exit fees (in reality, withholdings, as MBH said), just like Colorado and Nebraska. We hoped to negotiate them down, just like Colorado and Nebraska.

Now Baylor and a cast of cretins want to sue? For what? Teams change conferences on a regular, perhaps not yearly, basis. They didn't sue NU and CU, who started the exodus - and got off with paying far less than the contractual exit fees. How is the third man out more deserving of legal threats and full exit fees than the first two? It defies logic.

It kills me to say this, but one reason I know we will still get to the SEC is because UT will not want a new precedent of 'til death do us part for athletic conferences. Those guys want more than anything to call their own shots and control their situation. It also sounds like OU wants off the Titanic. There is no way to stabilize the Big 12 long-term by holding A&M hostage. In reality, the conference's best chance for survival was to let us go amicably and immediately replace us. That chance has been significantly and ironically reduced by Baylor's insane tantrum.

My opinion is, Colorado and Nebraska escaped over the top of the bathtub and then all the realignment chatter stopped. Now, Texas A&M finds itself in the bathtub stopper position (this could have been OK, UT any of the upper tier schools in the conference). If they are allowed to leave carte blanche, now nothing stops those upper tier schools from draining out and then the lower tier schools have lost a bundle of money.

As much as A&M fans want to argue it, this year is not the same as last year. Nebraska and Colorado leaving is not the same as the Big12 conference situation this year if Texas A&M leaves..

How is it different, in any way that makes the third school out more legally culpable and deserving of scorn than the first two teams?