The Bucs have announced that Lee Roy Selmon passed away.
Word is, Peyton Manning needs another neck surgery. Hope Collins has learned as much as he says he has.
Word is, Peyton Manning needs another neck surgery. Hope Collins has learned as much as he says he has.
Ouch! The Colts weren't looking great even with Manning. Opens the door for the Jags for Legion though!
Of course, I got Manning in my auto-draft fantasy league. That's already problematic for certain games during the year, but if this holds up I'm boned.
New thread by Thursday afternoon Pacific time, so none of y'all better be stealing me thunder.
New thread by Thursday afternoon Pacific time, so none of y'all better be stealing me thunder.
You know Boogle reads this thread, right? If I'm finding it difficult to create a week 1 thread right now imagine how he feels.
Jolly Bill wrote:Word is, Peyton Manning needs another neck surgery. Hope Collins has learned as much as he says he has.
Ouch! The Colts weren't looking great even with Manning. Opens the door for the Texans for Hoppa though!
FTFY
Your Jaguars news of the day: Garrard cut
Garrard getting cut is (A) very surprising and (B) really kind of a crappy move; it's not like he has time to find another solid job prior to the season starting. Echoes of Leftwich; I realize it's a business at all, but it's just, well, rude.
Unless this is just a cover story for the fact that Terrance Knighton actually ate him.
Wow, that is just... amazing.
It's your turn, McCown. I guess.
Wow, that is just... amazing.
It's your turn, MJD. I guess.
Hahahahaahahahaha! They're gonna have to run him into the ground this year. Good news for my keeper team.
No one mentioned Fred Taylor retiring?
Follow up: is he a HOFer or not?
No one mentioned Fred Taylor retiring?
Follow up: is he a HOFer or not?
If they start letting in about 30 people a year, sure. If there's a "injured often enough that, even after retirement, he's still a running joke at fantasy football drafts" wing, he's first-ballot.
Other than that, not even close. He was one of the best ten or so backs in the league for several years, but nobody ever said, "Wow, that Fred Taylor is one of the all-time greats". Never named All-Pro, made the Pro Bowl a grand total of once. He's not even qualified to be in the Hall of Very Good.
That's kind of why I asked the question. When I think of him, it is as the "oft-injured Fred Taylor", but when I started to see his numbers, I was really surprised at how high up on a number of the all-time lists he is (21st in attempts? 14th in yards from scrimmage?).
Depends on how you define "Hall of Very Good"; I've heard it used in the past to represent those guys who aren't quite HOFers, those guys who just don't quite have enough to make it. I heard Art Monk referred that way for years, and that's currently where guys like Andre Reed and Tim Brown may expect to be living for years. They were excellent players who just don't seem to have the push to make it, but their names are going to come up pretty much every year in the HOF discussion, even if they don't make it. And no, I don't think Fred Taylor will be in that group. Jamal Lewis averaged almost 1200 yards per year and had that 2000 yard season, and nobody is going to be clamoring for him to get a bust either. I honestly think Taylor would have to sit behind Martin, Tomlinson, Bettis, Edjerrin James, and Tiki Barber just from this decade alone. To me, the "Hall of Very Good" is the "Hall of Pretty Darn Close To Getting In", and I don't think Taylor's there.
Yes, Taylor was productive, but he also suffered from playing in the same era as a lot of exceptionally good AFC backs on a small-market team that didn't have huge amounts of success. This is certainly a reason why you wouldn't make a Pro Bowl (which could not be a more pointless 'honor"), but All-Pro is done by the writers, and I tend to respect All-Pro nods.
Furthermore, comparing him to Riggins is pointless, and you know it; different eras have different play styles.
Edit: You aren't honestly relying on comparing standard stats across eras, are you? Craig was utterly deadly out of the backfield in an era when that wasn't normal. He had 92 catches in 1985; Willie Gault led all Bears receivers with 33 catches. Craig was notable because of that. There were plenty of RBs like Craig in 2011, but he led the league in receptions in 1985. That was pretty darn unique.
If Taylor gets in it would be because of his YPC. In an era where even great RB's last 4-5 years and a general feeling of apathy to running backs in general he may just be a victim of playing the "wrong" position
Wrong thread...
I won the 2012 Superbowl with the Ravens. Our rookie running back B.Boutte was outstanding.
So we are one day away from the season kicking off and nobody has posted predictions? For shame!
AFC East:
Jets 11-5 - Lots of ugly wins with this team.
Patriots 11-5* - They don't even care about the regular season anymore, it's just about the playoffs.
Dolphins 7-9 - Henne is way too proud about winning 7 games...
Bills 6-10
AFC North:
Ravens 12-4 - This team is good, stop sleeping on them.
Steelers 8-8 - Turns out a rapey Big Ben is more effective in the pocket then a married Big Ben.
Browns 8-8 - Despite the Madden curse hurting Peyton Hillis, Colt McCoy does enough.
Bengals 4-12 - Dalton is eventually replaced by a recently signed Jordan Palmer who crouches and throws at half strength.
AFC South:
Texans 13-3
Colts 9-7* - Oh they struggle to start but Manning comes back midway and the colts win out the second half.
Jaguars 6-10 - Don't cut your starting quarterback the week before the season starts, mmmkay?
Titans 6-10
AFC West:
Chargers 13-3 - Holy sh*t is Norv Turner a bad coach but they have the most talented team in the league.
Raiders 8-8 - They out perform with some luck.
Chiefs 7-9 - Regression.
Broncos 5-11 - The defense loses a ton of games for the Broncos, so they sit Orton and let Jesus Tebow suck. (Note: possible HUGE scandal when Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn are discovered to be lovers)
NFC East:
Cowboys 10-6 - They're a talented team, I doubt injuries will wreck them two years in a row.
Eagles 10-6* - Vick stays healthier longer then expected, only problem is he isn't as good unless he's getting constantly injured.
Giants 7-9
Redskins 6-10 - Unleash the dragon!
NFC North:
Packers 13-3 - Aaron Rodgers is your MVP as he stays hot from last year's playoffs.
Bears 8-8 - Cutler decides he likes wearing the big silly injury jacket and does it several times throughout the season.
Lions 8-8 - They're getting better Detroit but for god sakes knock it off with thinking they're already a Superbowl team.
Vikings 6-10 - Huh, who could've guessed that McNabb would suck on another sucky team?
NFC South:
Saints 11-5 - Brees has hit his peak, he's good but it's his worst season yet.
Bucaneers 10-6* - Freeman regresses but the defense picks up the team.
Falcons 9-7 - Complete regression due to the luck of last year. Plus Turner sucks.
Panthers 5-11 - Cam Newton is actually good...but the Panthers aren't.
NFC West:
Seahawks 8-8 - T.Jack sucks but not any worse then Hasselbeck.
Rams 8-8 - Turnovers cost them some wins.
Cardinals 7-9 - Kolb is okay but the D struggles without DRC.
49ers 2-14 - Guess who wins the Luck lottery!
*designates Wildcard teams
Wildcard Playoffs:
Colts OVER Jets - Stupid Manning.
Ravens OVER Patriots - Ravens beat up Brady so bad that Goodell makes up two more rules to protect Brady.
Eagles OVER Seahawks - This will just be the worst game of the playoffs, we're talking 56-10 here.
Cowboys OVER Bucaneers - Bucs rock but they're young and inexperienced.
Divisional Playoffs:
Ravens OVER Texans - Fun close game.
Chargers OVER Colts - Rivers gets his derp face on, while Manning gets his Manning face on.
Packers OVER Eagles - To be the best, you have to beat the best.
Cowboys OVER Saints - America cries as "America's Team" wins.
Conference Championships:
Ravens OVER Chargers - Stupid Norv Turner does so many bone headed things that we see Rivers chewing him out as time winds down.
Packers OVER Cowboys - Cowboys are just a worse version of the Packers.
Superbowl:
Packers OVER Ravens - Aaron Rodgers, a once beloved QB is now a back to back Superbowl champion. His championship belt celebration now looks totally douchey.
AFC South:
Texans 13-3
Of all your picks, this is the only one without comment? Really?
As a Ravens fan, I don't have that much faith in all the youngsters they have on the team.
Elliottx wrote:AFC South:
Texans 13-3Of all your picks, this is the only one without comment? Really? :D
Yeah I should have said something on that but they're kinda boring. It's really a combination of their schedule and that they're a good team if their D improves a bit from last year. Andre Johnson will finish 2nd in MVP voting.
I disagree with a lot of your picks, but I think you've got the Cowboys and the Eagles right on. Except for the Eagles getting the tiebreaker.
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