WoW: Cataclysm - SPOILERS WITHIN

Luggage wrote:

Alright, who's up for weekly farmruns to get the old tier sets back together for transmogrification? My initial proposal would be Black Temple and Sunwell, since T6 was awesome for most classes.

I'm always up for some achievements.

I'll take the glaives and thunderfurry for my rogue. I'll switch to combat just to use them!

Enix wrote:
Luggage wrote:

Alright, who's up for weekly farmruns to get the old tier sets back together for transmogrification? My initial proposal would be Black Temple and Sunwell, since T6 was awesome for most classes.

I'm always up for some achievements.

To quote Order of the Stick:

"LET THE REAPING BEGIN!"

Talliarthe wrote:

I'll take the glaives and thunderfurry for my rogue. I'll switch to combat just to use them!

Nope - http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1...

You will not be able to transmogrify using a legendary item as either the source or the recipient of a change.

and

Deathwing raid will be the final raid of the expansion.
Scratched wrote:
Talliarthe wrote:

I'll take the glaives and thunderfurry for my rogue. I'll switch to combat just to use them!

Nope

You will not be able to transmogrify using a legendary item as either the source or the recipient of a change.

I think he meant in reference to the older raid runs, e.g. Black Temple where the real Glaives actually drop, and not in reference to the transmogrifier.

Thoughts on the changes to threat generation? My roommate and I began playing about a month ago with recruit a friend and I've been tanking on my Paladin from 15-85. I'm a little worried that trash kills will be too easy now.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Thoughts on the changes to threat generation? My roommate and I began playing about a month ago with recruit a friend and I've been tanking on my Paladin from 15-85. I'm a little worried that trash kills will be too easy now.

Were they ever anything but that? With the exception of maybe Zul Aman trash during a bear run, trash is just what the name suggests if your party isn't stupid.

The threat change however was motivated by Tank threat generation not scaling nearly as well with Cataclysm gear as DPS. Tank DPS are somewhere around 5-7k, which with the old multiplier amounts to 15-21k TPS, values that a decently played damage dealer could easily achieve.

Edit: Also "BOO!" for disallowing legendary transmogrification (could band name right there). Who but the most hardcore of achievement wh**es are farming Thunderfury, Thoridal, Glaives and Co. anyway? Why not let them enjoy it? Killing 2 birds with one stone, it may have fixed the Rogue drought as well.

This made me laugh
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I'd like to know how much cash is sloshing around on servers, and how much this will take out. When I last played people seemed to be swimming in it.

Luggage wrote:

Edit: Also "BOO!" for disallowing legendary transmogrification (could band name right there). Who but the most hardcore of achievement wh**es are farming Thunderfury, Thoridal, Glaives and Co. anyway? Why not let them enjoy it? Killing 2 birds with one stone, it may have fixed the Rogue drought as well.

Keep in mind that Thunderfury and Hand of Rag can be gotten solo. Glaves and Thoridal can be gotten by a 5-man group without much effort.

The Wrath legendaries need a raid, but definitely under 10 people. They just take forever to get.

NSMike wrote:

Not specifically Cata-related, but HOLY CRAP USEFUL.

You see, you install this...

http://ontopreplica.codeplex.com/

And you can do this:

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Finally tried this out. Awesome! One can easily play something else while waiting for a LFG invite as a DPS.

I find the choice of visited links fascinating.

So... I apparently haven't played WoW since 2005 (other than a couple of hours here and there in trials); my main was a 60 Mage on Ner'zhul, having beaten Onyxia, Ragnaros, and the first 2 dragons in BWL. With Burning Crusade now bundled as part of base WoW, I thought I'd give it a spin to see what's up with that, and what's changed over the years. I'd like to transfer over to Blackhand to join everyone here, but it looks like there's no free transfer available from Ner'zhul; do I have any options other than a $25 fee?

The new zones are remade, good storylines and quick so you can reach lvl 60 in a couple of weeks no problem on a new server.

But but but... my main!

There haven't been free transfers for a while now. Plus Blackhand isn't that underpopulated, so it'll probably never be a destination realm.

Leveling is super fast now because the goal is to get folks to 85 asap. Might as well re-roll a toon or two and see how it feels. WoW has changed a ton since Vanilla.

merphle wrote:

But but but... my main! :(

Exactely! Level 60 takes about 30-50 hours played now. Your choice what your time is worth to you.

By keeping your main you'll also have the "wow, my epics get replaced fast" effect the same way we all did for the first time when TBC was released.

Whatever you do though, stick with Gnome Mage, because gnomes are awesome.

So, um... Yeah, I transferred.

Grats. If you want in the GWJ Alliance guild, talk to one of the officers when they're on. Best time to catch folks seems to be right before the raids.

Enix wrote:

Grats. If you want in the GWJ Alliance guild, talk to one of the officers when they're on. Best time to catch folks seems to be right before the raids.

... which is on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays around 8pm server time.

Greg Street wrote:

Tier 13 will not be available at all from valor points.

This is interesting.

Greg Street wrote:

Yes, you're right! It is a pair of agility one-handers, and they are, in fact, daggers, and they are Rogue-only.

Oh shiny!

ELewis17 wrote:
Greg Street wrote:

Tier 13 will not be available at all from valor points.

This is interesting.

This is ... a plot to make me stay up late!

/crankyoldman

More dungeons here.

Obtainng both legendary daggers makes the rogue a mount. Badass.
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ELewis17 wrote:

Obtainng both legendary daggers makes the rogue a mount. Badass.

What the hell...

As from the MMO-C comments, I wonder how long until it turns into Aion. Just turn the players into ascended super-beings and be done with it.

Hello, Red Bull dagger jokes.

Minus another 800k subscriptions, to 10.3m. - http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3...

I think this will provide a good data point from before they offered the yearly offer, and the next expansion. Cataclysm was rough to them though.

Scratched wrote:

Minus another 800k subscriptions, to 10.3m. - http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3...

I think this will provide a good data point from before they offered the yearly offer, and the next expansion. Cataclysm was rough to them though.

That's still north of $120m USD revenue per month...

Yes, they're still at the stage where the sum total of their losses would be like a mountain of players for most other games. Still, it's going to be interesting to watch the landscape over the coming years, it seems like WoW is no longer the default safe/good MMO (at least in China) and perhaps the competition is no longer merely snapping at WoW's heels.