NCAA Football 2011 Season Catch-All

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I don't think there is a thread for this yet and I like having a catch-all for random thoughts (as we did with the NBA last year) so I figured I'd start this with an article I saw today that I liked.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/best_team_i_ever_covered/07/04/layden.nebraska/index.html#?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a2

The premise is basically that the Tommy Frazier Cornhuskers were one of the best teams ever. I have to say that I've felt that way for a long long time. I still can replay in my mind the amazing game Frazier played in 1995 and it gives me goosebumps to think about it. Fun fun team. Part of it is that I loved the option and the wishbone. I played in those offenses in high school and I thought they were genius. Anyway, kicking this off.

Exploiting the AI....wait, that was real?!?!

That offense was sick. I remember watching highlights and looking at box scores and just loling in my Apple Jacks.

Interesting article over at ESPN OTL.

The NCAA could go a long way to clean up college sports tomorrow with one rule change -- no special admissions for athletes. Tell athletes, you can only play for our team if you can enter college through the same door as other students, on your academic and other non-athletic credentials. OK, you were captain of your high school team, so you get a few bonus points for that. But not a free pass through admissions, courtesy of the coach.

Some of the most revealing documents that we came across in looking at Ohio State were those unrelated to the NCAA violations. They were a series of hand-written affidavits signed by Pryor, receiver DeVier Posey and running back Daniel Herron after several pairs of cleats disappeared from the locker room following a game last November. Police finally got around to interviewing the players seven months later, after each of them had been found to have sold memorabilia at the tattoo parlor. No one ended up getting charged for the missing cleats, but read their statements to police, and judge for yourself whether their spelling and grammar is that of college-level students.

Come on, they're OSU students...the bar shouldn't be TOO high.

Jayhawker wrote:
read their statements to police, and judge for yourself whether their spelling and grammar is that of college-level students.

What was that guy reading? I didn't see any spelling mistakes and grammar was decent. Especially considering that it was a police report. I grade the work of students who got into a university through "normal" channels and it is usually much worse than those three police reports. I agree that athletes should have the same standards of admission as other students but that example really doesn't help his point.

And, just so we're clear, I'm not defending OSU. I would be more than happy if they got the death penalty over this.

There are some grammatical errors and they read kind of "funny". I can see what Jayhawker is saying. Not sure if this is exhibit A, though. There are definitely worse examples out there.

Well, I didn't say it was bad, the ESPN writer did. I think the issue was that it was not written to level on would expect in college. But no, those weren't that bad. But you would think that if you were writing in a police report, you would at least want to achieve a level that would be acceptable to post at GWJ. They were clearly not that.

But overall, I'd like to see a complete elimination of waivers for athletes. It sends the wrong message to recruits and sets up all of the problems we see.

I'd also love to see athletes make get paid like any other University employee. I think it would have to be a regulated process in which the NCAA sets the amounts. But we are talking about kids whose effort is generating revenue for the school and NCAA, yet they are not even allowed an outside job to make extra money.

I agree with all of the above. It was always strange to me that there were some extracurricular activities that were work-study, essentially, and for which you got paid, but not sports. I'd love ideally see a semi-pro league and not force everyone to go to college, but the problem is that college sports are already established as a farm system.

Word all over the Texas A&M boards is that the Aggies will be joining the SEC for the 2012 season. Lots and lots of smoke, no official announcements from anyone yet. If that happens, lots of other dominoes will fall in short order...

I've pretty much accepted that the Big 12 will eventually fall. My hope is that Kansas jumps to the Big East, and the Big East becomes a 12 team conference. They may not be super, but there will be some great football and basketball to be played. I also hope that Mizzou fails to get into the Big 10 and joins conference USA.

Jayhawker wrote:

I also hope that Mizzou fails to get into the Big 10 and joins conference USA.

I still think Missouri has zero chance at the Big Ten. The only reason Nebraska got in was because of football. The Big Ten claims to be just as concerned with academics. If that's true, they were probably embarrassed by the fact that Nebraska was dropped from the AAU shortly after joining the conference. If the Big Ten expands further, I think it will only be if they can add Notre Dame (even though it's more undergraduate focused) and/or Texas (which they want just as much for their research as for their football).

I think its far more likely we see Texas, OU and some other teams join the pac 10 than Texas to the big ten.

boogle wrote:

I think its far more likely we see Texas, OU and some other teams join the pac 10 than Texas to the big ten.

Oh, I agree with you. I think it's very unlikely that either Notre Dame or Texas will ever join the Big Ten. I just think that those are the only two schools that they'll expand past twelve for.

MyBrainHz wrote:

Word all over the Texas A&M boards is that the Aggies will be joining the SEC for the 2012 season. Lots and lots of smoke, no official announcements from anyone yet. If that happens, lots of other dominoes will fall in short order...

I am reading TexAgs every chance I get! Let's do this thing!

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I am reading TexAgs every chance I get! Let's do this thing!

SEC announcement expected tonight or tomorrow. Board of Regents meeting has been moved up to this coming Monday; agenda item for athletic conference alignment is now listed.

I blame the longhorns

MyBrainHz wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:

I am reading TexAgs every chance I get! Let's do this thing!

SEC announcement expected tonight or tomorrow. Board of Regents meeting has been moved up to this coming Monday; agenda item for athletic conference alignment is now listed.

:D

I am refreshing TexAgs like it's my job. SEC, here we come! And we really need to hand out some beatings this year on our way out of this lame duck conference.

The REALLY interesting question is whether any other schools will receive an invitation to the SEC this Sunday as well. I've heard all kinds of names, like Florida State, OU, VA Tech, etc.

Florida State will never receive a bid as long as Florida has a say. They want to keep the Florida recruiting ground to themselves as the SEC representative.

But, there are some in the ACC who want to return to being the best basketball conference and FSU has never been viewed as better than the third best team in the conference.

The Aggies leaving the Big 12:

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I hope to be at Jerry World for the game this year.

I'm not 100% sure that the deal is all the way done until TexAgs says so, but it would be a hell of a derailing if we stopped now.

MyBrainHz wrote:

Word all over the Texas A&M boards is that the Aggies will be joining the SEC for the 2012 season. Lots and lots of smoke, no official announcements from anyone yet. If that happens, lots of other dominoes will fall in short order...

Hell, yes! Welcome to the SEC West, hands down, best conference in the nation! Looking forward to the closest away game in the conference (especially if we can keep playing at Jerry World). Don't expect to come up here and own the place though. Now we need Oklahoma, OSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Florida State.

I'm so hyped for this season that I can barely contain myself. The Razorbacks are going back to the BCS this season! Losing Mallett is a downside, but go watch the Auburn/Arkansas game last season. Tyler Wilson is a powerhouse, backed up by an extremely aggressive and experienced run game some fast guys maybe. Add Coach Bobby Petrino to the mix and this is going to be an exciting season. I cannot see a less than 10-2 outcome.

Woo Pig Sooie and f*ck Texas! Hopefully I can make it down to the Jerry World game.

Edit: Best post on the Razorback forums

Any way you guys can get some girl cheerleaders?

Second Best

It took us a long time to quit worrying about what UT did or thought. Hopefully you can make quicker progress than we did. You're in the best conference in college sports.

Third best

Can't wait until TAMU beats Texas and chants SEC.

Edit 2: Sad edit

Morning news confirms it. All-SEC HB Knile Davis out for the season :(.

Texas A&M will not join for 2012. However the door has not been closed for future expansion.

Dang, well I still might see some of you guys at Jerry World. Looks like I might be in the standing room only section.

Ego Man wrote:

Texas A&M will not join for 2012. However the door has not been closed for future expansion.

I don't think this is correct, especially if all you're going off of is today's statement from the SEC. There are indications that statement was legal CYA. A&M is supposedly announcing its intentions to leave the Big XII tomorrow, at which point the SEC is able to invite them without threat of lawsuit.

Ego Man wrote:

Texas A&M will not join for 2012. However the door has not been closed for future expansion.

You're reading the wrong Twitters; what MBH said.

I was reading USA Today. They have a new article that changed their reporting.

"The SEC Presidents and Chancellors met today and reaffirmed our satisfaction with the present 12 institutional alignment," the statement read. "We recognize, however, that future conditions may make it advantageous to expand the number of institutions in the league. We discussed criteria and process associated with expansion."

Machen's statement doesn't kill the Aggies' chances of eventually bolting the Big 12 for the SEC, but the SEC would likely then need to add another school in order to have seven in each of its divisions. Which school that might be is unknown.

It seems like they might have to recruit another school to do this and since FSU has only said that they were never contacted........

Billy Liucci has been claiming all along that the SEC would take A&M as a 13th and word about 14 later. We'll see.

I have seen Florida State mentioned, but I've also heard that some of the schools have teamed up to block any additional schools from their states - including Florida.

Yeah, Florida, Georgia and South Carolina are very anti-expansion, partly because of the effect it will have on their recruiting. They'd no longer be the only option for in stater's looking to play in a premier conference. But look at Alabama. It's a much smaller state, and both Auburn and Alabama have top 25 recruiting each year with a lot of good players coming from in state. Honestly, I think competition is always better.

Hey, I'd love to see the Seminoles in there. Just sharing what I read.

Anybody read the Yahoo article about Miami?

Yup.

Auburn, Ohio St. and Oregon are all doing the happy dance because everyone just forgot them.

Paying for stripper/prostitutes and then paying for the follow up abortion!

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