The Witcher 2 Spoiler thread.

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Remember when games didn't have quick time events? That was so great.

THE DRAGON'S BACK over and over and over and over....

Who you kill changes the game dialog from the very beginning.

drdoak wrote:

Remember when games didn't have quick time events? That was so great.

THE DRAGON'S BACK over and over and over and over....

THAT part I had absolutely no trouble with - it was the EARLIER dragon scene with the burning shelters that I needed to re-do a few times.
I think in the end I just fluked it to the end with enough health to deal with the guards at the far side.

I don't really mind the quicktime events so long as they are used sparingly for dramatic scenes which would otherwise be impossible to include without looking wooden or just plain silly (such as running away from a big-arse dragon with a king slung over your shoulders).

Gotta keep track of this thread, but I'm not going to frequent it until I finish the game.

Also , can I assume everyone saw the Assassin's Creed Easter Egg in the Prologue

It's on the far side of the ballista you need to activate, if not - worth it for the +1 assassin skill (bonus damage when attacking from the rear) and the lol's

Regarding "The Dragon's Back" over and over again, do what I did and reduce your video settings to 640x480. Through it first time!

What happens if you let Philippa out instead of going after Triss? Does she die?

Also, where the hell did Iorveth go? We split up and I never saw him again.

I found Iorveth badly hurt (not dead, but hurt) surrounded by a group of marauders. It was after the dragon attack, I think. I wonder if I got a "bad end" for him; lying hurt in a corner doesn't seem a very fitting end for the leader of the Squirrels. Did anyone see something different for Iroveth?

I found my ending not as climatic as I expected, but I did get the feeling they were setting up for a LOT of future DLC storylines. So I'm excited. I hope we get to chase the Wild Hunt (into a different Sphere, maybe?), and go into the southern empire.

Oh damn, there was something about a prisoner but I didn't see him.
Saskia better damn well survive. Philippa was blind and still in castle / town thing, leaving that unresolved was a bit much.

Also, I read something about a Dagger that can break the spell on her, but I never heard about that in the game. Anyone know anything about that?

Oh! When I killed the marauders around Iorveth, I found Eilheart's Dagger on one of them. I guess that's it.

I went back and found it myself, I missed Iorveth the first time.
I've been digesting the ending some more and I think that the game is missing an actual epilogue. The epilogue chapter should just be contained in chapter 3 and there should be a proper epilogue after that.

Just finished. Here's a bit of a breakdown on what I got:

Spoiler:

- Sided with Roche at end of Act I
- Let Roche kill Henslet at the end of Act II
- Chose between going with Roche to get Folset's daughter or going for Triss in Act III. Chose to get Triss. (At some point in here Folset's son is killed? There's a reference to him being dead, but I never saw/heard about anything directly.)
- Roche recovers the daughter on his own, but is branded an outlaw, and goes into hiding with her
- Let the dragon live
- Let Letho live
- Never saw Iorveth after Act I. There were references to him being alive at the end.
- Never saw Saskia after Act II (where Zoltan convinced her to give me her sword). I have no idea what became of her during the battle in Act II.
- I don't think I ever encountered Phillipa directly

Like the game a lot, but Act III ended up feeling very rushed to me and there's a fair amount that didn't make a ton of sense. Seemed like a lot going on away from Geralt and being relayed to him second hand. No idea what Geralt/Triss move onto once the game ends. They just walk off.

EDIT: I went back and spoiler tagged this to be safe. Even though it's a spoiler thread since there's so much variability, I'm not sure what's expected.

Iorveth path:

Spoiler:

Here's something for you: Saskia is the Dragon
I guess you don't find out unless you side with Iorveth.

I really need to play the Roche path. We almost need two separate spoiler threads :P. Too late now!

edit: I'll return the favour then

ubrakto: I did everything almost the same as you except I killed the dragon. I figured I could go back to the save real quick and see what happens. It's odd because that was actually one of the most difficult choices I could make. In the end, I decided the situation was more like putting down a horse with a broken leg. It appeared he was mortally wounded.

Yeah, I'm not going to spoiler tag in this thread unless people protest. Anyone in here should have finished the game and not be to particular.

kyrieee: That's fascinating about the dragon! I will be replaying this game immediately with a couple mods, Polish voiceovers, and AMD crossfire hotfix drivers once those come out.

I absolutely loved the ending with Geralt/Triss walking off. The world has gone to s**t, and they're forced to deal with it as best they can. It's just like real life. I definitely did not feel the need for any more resolution. It's actually kind of refreshing.

Hearing about the diverging paths in this game is just so interesting.
For example there's apparently a whole quest to go through the mist to get some of Henselt's royal blood if you let Stennis live!

kyrieee wrote:

Hearing about the diverging paths in this game is just so interesting.
For example there's apparently a whole quest to go through the mist to get some of Henselt's royal blood if you let Stennis live!

For the life of me I can't even remember who Stennis is. I know I saw his name dropped a lot, but it doesn't ring a bell.

Also, just what the hell happened to Boussy?

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

ubrakto: I did everything almost the same as you except I killed the dragon. I figured I could go back to the save real quick and see what happens. It's odd because that was actually one of the most difficult choices I could make. In the end, I decided the situation was more like putting down a horse with a broken leg. It appeared he was mortally wounded.

Yeah, I'm not going to spoiler tag in this thread unless people protest. Anyone in here should have finished the game and not be to particular.

kyrieee: That's fascinating about the dragon! I will be replaying this game immediately with a couple mods, Polish voiceovers, and AMD crossfire hotfix drivers once those come out.

I absolutely loved the ending with Geralt/Triss walking off. The world has gone to s**t, and they're forced to deal with it as best they can. It's just like real life. I definitely did not feel the need for any more resolution. It's actually kind of refreshing.

I did like watching them walk off, but was hoping for a little more. I was adamant about staying faithful to Triss in this game to the point where I was ready to let Foltest's daughter die if it meant saving Triss. Was hoping that would come back into play with regards to the rose that you give her earlier in the game. The whole, it won't wilt if the love is pure or true or whatever. I figured if I cheated that I'd find out at the end it would wilt or something. Disappointed that never came back up again. Guess I could've gone and whored it up.

ubrakto wrote:
kyrieee wrote:

Hearing about the diverging paths in this game is just so interesting.
For example there's apparently a whole quest to go through the mist to get some of Henselt's royal blood if you let Stennis live!

For the life of me I can't even remember who Stennis is. I know I saw his name dropped a lot, but it doesn't ring a bell.

Also, just what the hell happened to Boussy?

Stennis is the Aedirnean Prince. You first see him at the summit during the start of Chapter 2

Anyway, I just went back and replayed chapter 3 and it was much more satisfying this time around. I got the two kickass swords, I saved both Saskia and Iorveth and I got to chat with them too. In the first ending I got their fates were undecided and it felt very unresolved. I thought for sure that Triss would die if I didn't go after her, but no, you just get a worse ending. It's not completely unfair though.

I also heard that there's a secret boss somewhere in the sewers who allows you to respec, or alternatively drop some awesome loot, but I wasn't able to find him.

kyrieee wrote:

Stennis is the Aedirnean Prince. You first see him at the summit during the start of Chapter 2.

Only if you side with Iroveth! I thought this was cool:

I went back to my end-of-Chapter 1 save file and chose Roche instead of Iorveth. When you go through the opening of Chapter 2 someone asks where Stennis is, and someone's just all, "oh, him? He died on his way here."

That's it. He's just gone. And I think that's really cool. CD Projekt has swagger.

(At least, I'm pretty sure that happened. I may have heard wrong.)

I was talking to a buddy of mine about (he sided with Iorveth) and you really do play almost two completely different games in Chapters 2 and 3 based on the Iorveth/Roche decision.

Did anyone come across any mention of the assassin from the ending cutscene in the first game?
Letho mentions that there were only three witchers who knew about the mission, and it's mentioned that he has two friends with another group of Scoia'tel. Letho never said anything about the failed assassination attempt on Foltest. It struck me as a bit weird.

kyrieee wrote:

Did anyone come across any mention of the assassin from the ending cutscene in the first game?
Letho mentions that there were only three witchers who knew about the mission, and it's mentioned that he has two friends with another group of Scoia'tel. Letho never said anything about the failed assassination attempt on Foltest. It struck me as a bit weird.

I might be wrong, but isn't that brought up very early on in the game? I believe when you're in the tent with Triss at in the Prologue, you can ask her about how the autopsy on the assassin went. You conclude that it was probably a witcher. A bit later, you're allowed to bring it up with Foltest.

Maybe that's a different assassin.

No no, you're right, I guess what I mean is I don't see how he fits into the story of the game because Letho specifically mentions the number of people involved and they're all alive accounted for.

kyrieee wrote:

No no, you're right, I guess what I mean is I don't see how he fits into the story of the game because Letho specifically mentions the number of people involved and they're all alive accounted for.

I suppose you could just assume that he wasn't part of Letho's group. I got the impression from the ending talk with Letho, that his group were assassin's for the emperor (I really don't remember anything about an emperor being mentioned before that). Maybe the assassin from the ending of TW1 was just part of another group hired by the emperor.

I started a new playthrough and decided to give Roche some attitude. Turns out he can actually kill you in the prologue. Pretty cool!

kyrieee wrote:

I started a new playthrough and decided to give Roche some attitude. Turns out he can actually kill you in the prologue. Pretty cool!

Ho ho. That's awesome. I'm going to try that.

kyrieee wrote:

I started a new playthrough and decided to give Roche some attitude. Turns out he can actually kill you in the prologue. Pretty cool!

Say, wha?

That's awesome.

I started over again last night as well, this time with my PC upgrade in place. Great googly moogly does this game look incredible. And, while it's stating the obvious, the combat is sooo much better when you stay over 30fps (compared the teens I was getting in my first run-through).

Well, technically Ves kills you but whatever

I thought the prologue was better on a 2nd playthrough as well, but I still didn't like the 1vs6 fight in the yard with Foltest cheering you on. You have to be so defensive that it's not fun.

kyrieee wrote:

Well, technically Ves kills you but whatever

I thought the prologue was better on a 2nd playthrough as well, but I still didn't like the 1vs6 fight in the yard with Foltest cheering you on. You have to be so defensive that it's not fun.

I think that is the toughest part of the prologue. I relied on the explosive trap (forget the type, but it got me a couple insta-kills), and the trap sign (Yrden?) for the big guy (if I could line it up right). Still took a few tries, but I got it before it got too frustrating (on Normal).

Really fun game. Sad that Chapter 3 is on the short side, but considering how differently everyone's playthrough has turned out, I suppose I should let it slide. They were ballsy by essentially denying content -- more importantly I love how you never get the complete story when you choose one route over the other.

Some rough edges though. With the Roche route I felt like I was always doing something that didn't sit right. Geralt seems more than complicit to help Henselt even though he's a complete ass -- going to need to playthrough Iorveth's path and see if that changes things or if I'll still be led around by self-centered characters.

One question I'm dying to ask:How much does a savegame from TW1 affect TW2? I could never get myself to finish the first Witcher (never clicked for me). Are there characters you end up meeting otherwise or does it not change much at all?

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