SC2 Pro Tournament Discussion

Best of 3? Tastosis lied to us? I DEMAND A BEST OF 5!

liquid wrote:

Best of 3? Tastosis lied to us? I DEMAND A BEST OF 5!

It says Best of 3 right there on the GSL website for the round of 8

*** I should say that information came from Team Liquid, but now that I actually look at the Gom website I can't find a single mention of what format the round of 8 matches will be in.

Hopefully Artosis is right and it's Best of 5.

Thin_J wrote:
liquid wrote:

Best of 3? Tastosis lied to us? I DEMAND A BEST OF 5!

It says Best of 3 right there on the GSL website for the round of 8

*** I should say that information came from Team Liquid, but now that I actually look at the Gom website I can't find a single mention of what format the round of 8 matches will be in.

Hopefully Artosis is right and it's Best of 5.

I believe the original schedule was best of 5 for ro8 and ro4 and then best of 7 for the finals. But as you mentioned they seem to have taken that schedule off the site, so who knows.

:O THAT WAS AMAZING GAHHHHHHHHHHH

Wow, we need a best of 11 with MC vs Jinro because those games were just pure insanity.

Fun note: Choya is disqualified from entering the next GSL because of cheating on the ladder.

He was apparently pausing the game at the start and asking the opposing player to settle the game by somehow doing paper rock scissors. Apparently he only did it against favored players, so the times he lost he still only lost a couple of points, but when he won he'd gain about 20, and it made it look like he was playing way more games than is actually possible. Both him and his coach admitted it and accepted the punishment.

Thin_J wrote:

Fun note: Choya is disqualified from entering the next GSL because of cheating on the ladder.

He was apparently pausing the game at the start and asking the opposing player to settle the game by somehow doing paper rock scissors. Apparently he only did it against favored players, so the times he lost he still only lost a couple of points, but when he won he'd gain about 20, and it made it look like he was playing way more games than is actually possible. Both him and his coach admitted it and accepted the punishment.

that is a rather odd method of cheating. Why not just all-in and end it fast? or at least try... that as about a 50/50 chance, similar to rock paper scissors

Blotto The Clown wrote:

that is a rather odd method of cheating. Why not just all-in and end it fast? or at least try... that as about a 50/50 chance, similar to rock paper scissors

Well the joke of the whole thing is that Choya always goes all in on either one or two bases anyway, so it doesn't increase his odds of winning, it just means his "games" take a minute or so instead of 7 or 8 and he probably comes out about the same on his win percentage.

Damnit, I was hoping to skip a season to catch up on some things my SC2 viewing time has eaten into, but after skimming TL and this thread a bit, it seems pretty clear I'm missing out on the best GSL, yet. Guess it's time to watch a bunch of Starcraft

Today are the Reddit finals - Morrow vs. WhiteRa in a best of 7. http://www.justin.tv/screddit 6PM EST.
Just found out there will be a pregame showmatch with LiquidTyler aka nony.

Dyni wrote:

Damnit, I was hoping to skip a season to catch up on some things my SC2 viewing time has eaten into, but after skimming TL and this thread a bit, it seems pretty clear I'm missing out on the best GSL, yet. Guess it's time to watch a bunch of Starcraft :drink:

You can skip the Code A. Code S is where all the good stuff has happened.

Wow, WhiteRa is raping zergs left and right. After 4-1'ing Morrow and winning the Reddit Invitational now he 3-0'ed Sen for the Root Gaming Warzone Tournament. ~$5k less than 10 games. Not bad, not bad.

Koz wrote:
Dyni wrote:

Damnit, I was hoping to skip a season to catch up on some things my SC2 viewing time has eaten into, but after skimming TL and this thread a bit, it seems pretty clear I'm missing out on the best GSL, yet. Guess it's time to watch a bunch of Starcraft :drink:

You can skip the Code A. Code S is where all the good stuff has happened.

I'll echo that. There's been some awful games in Code A. The tiny number of good players in there (oGsTOP, for one) have just been rolling their opponents.

*NesTea crushed Choya this morning. Choya put on some early pressure in game 1, attacked with a few stalkers, some zealots and sentries, a Void Ray and a Phoenix, and managed to hit at a time when NesTea only had a Zergling and a spore colony.

NesTea still ended up defending and winning. I'll be blown away if Choya ever gets back into Code S after he spends the one tournament disqualified.

I didn't have time to catch any of MVP and Ki-Soo though. Save those for when I get home I guess.

Pretty lopsided Code S games today. Tester with some very poor playing unfortunately. NesTea v. MVP should be good though NesTea already said he's going to lose, so that may turn out poorly as well.

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I may be the only one out of the loop, but here is a really handy link for anyone else wanting to catch up and cherry pick the good games.

Ugh, such a disappointing series.

liquid wrote:

Ugh, such a disappointing series.

Absolutely. Extremely anti-climactic. I'd seen it predicted more than once that the series would actually be determined by the spawn positions in the 4 player maps and that's a good part of what happened.

I mean, how screwed up is it that the most exciting game was a six pool on Jungle Basin?

Also: I'd like to take a moment to flip the bird at GomTV for their busted ass website. That's three consecutive times I've tried to watch Code S live and been unable to without resorting to a crappy restream on Justin.tv.

Yup. Very disappointing series from Idra and Jinro, at least what I was able to see of it. And now MarineKing v Nada has gotten pretty weird. What exactly are the conditions for an auto-draw? And is that even active in the GSL, or just ladder games?

Edit: Nada got greedy. In retrospect, I think it's clear he should have played for a draw rather than killing his own units. It was just too much of a risk while MarineKing still had a Command Center.

I don't think that cost him the game, once his rax scouted the depots down he should have taken all of his marines there. The top Foxer rax were gonna be taken care of with just 4-5 marines. I'm so angry foxer won this one...

MarineKing vs Nada on Shakuras: craziest game ever
Holy crap

My feeling is that as soon Foxer was able to safely land his Orbital, it was almost inevitable that he was going to be able to build scvs, and use them to scatter depots around the map faster than Nada would be able to take them down. But definitely, Nada wasting time on those top barracks didn't work out for him.

And...a rush in the second game. Here's hoping Jinro can do better against Foxer this time than last.

Edit: And now no bases in Game 3. How is this happening again!?

Did Nada go braindead before the games started? So many stupid mistakes... I'm frustrated.

4dSwissCheese wrote:

And...a rush in the second game. Here's hoping Jinro can do better against Foxer this time than last.

Jinro was actually in a good spot, had a very solid contain and a supply lead but MKP's drop was just so deadly and he didn't spot it soon enough. I think Jinro's chances are good.

liquid wrote:

Did Nada go braindead before the games started? So many stupid mistakes... I'm frustrated.

Yeah, watching big blobs of siege tanks attack unsieged over and over again into big balls of marine/medivac was maddening.

All he had to do was slow down his push and leapfrog groups of tanks, and he *crushes* in those games.

In the third game didn't MKP have two orbitals? Plus a much bigger worker count, so NaDa had to get something done. The problem with leapfrogging with his tanks there is that he can't force MKP to engage the tanks, and he risks getting run past. Clearly he didn't put his tanks to good use, but I don't know what he could've done. It's such a weird situation, he can't do a regular contain and MKP plays almost Zerg-like, using stimmed marines to abuse the immobility of tanks.

kyrieee wrote:

In the third game didn't MKP have two orbitals? Plus a much bigger worker count, so NaDa had to get something done. The problem with leapfrogging with his tanks there is that he can't force MKP to engage the tanks, and he risks getting run past. Clearly he didn't put his tanks to good use, but I don't know what he could've done. It's such a weird situation, he can't do a regular contain and MKP plays almost Zerg-like, using stimmed marines to abuse the immobility of tanks.

Sure, but I'm not talking about once the ridiculous base trade happened. Before that. More consistent and steady play earlier in the game would have prevented all that insanity from happening in the first place.

On a non GSL note, IEM is going on right now, with the SC2 games getting broadcast here.

Unfortunately it's almost a mirror of the GSL with all but two players still left being Terran. The other two still left are Protoss. All the Zerg players are out.

I couldn't finish watching the Code A semis. TvT is just so boring when played standard.

Koz wrote:

I couldn't finish watching the Code A semis. TvT is just so boring when played standard.

Get used to it. If tournaments keep going the way they have been recently we won't get much else.

Thin_J wrote:
Koz wrote:

I couldn't finish watching the Code A semis. TvT is just so boring when played standard.

Get used to it. If tournaments keep going the way they have been recently we won't get much else.

I won't get used to them because I won't be watching the games.

Turns out Jinro heard the commentators make lots of "ooohhhhhhh" sounds at the beginning of the last game . He said it on the interview so props to him for saying it. GOM seems to have removed the interview to cover it up or something.

Regardless they were amazing games.

Here it is on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFE_N...