2011 Team Fortress 2 Tournament, this time with ACTUAL medals!

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Queueball wrote:

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Feeank! Design us a hat! Or better yet, we could use your weiner bomb hat as our official prize. The bun could be gold, silver, and bronze colored! I'm a genius.

ukickmydog wrote:
Queueball wrote:

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Feeank! Design us a hat! Or better yet, we could use your weiner bomb hat as our official prize. The bun could be gold, silver, and bronze colored! I'm a genius.

Seconded!!

Queueball wrote:

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Right, if those medals ever become a reality it'd be nice to wear them in addition to the new award.

cyrax wrote:
Queueball wrote:

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Right, if those medals ever become a reality it'd be nice to wear them in addition to the new award.

As much as I want unique medals and wiener hattes (and I really do), we should probably consider the consequences for a moment. We will have created two unique items that are more rare than even the golden wrench, over two separate tournaments — meaning that, presumably, there will be more tourneys with unique items in the future. So once word gets out, how do we prevent the dam that's holding back the festering cesspool of greater TF2-dom from bursting and infecting our lovely GWJ orchard? Without locking down all goodjer TF2 access to the point of absurdity?

Radical Ans wrote:
ukickmydog wrote:
Queueball wrote:

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Feeank! Design us a hat! Or better yet, we could use your weiner bomb hat as our official prize. The bun could be gold, silver, and bronze colored! I'm a genius.

Seconded!!

You mean the hat part, not the other part, right Radical?

Minarchist wrote:
cyrax wrote:
Queueball wrote:

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Right, if those medals ever become a reality it'd be nice to wear them in addition to the new award.

As much as I want unique medals and wiener hattes (and I really do), we should probably consider the consequences for a moment. We will have created two unique items that are more rare than even the golden wrench, over two separate tournaments — meaning that, presumably, there will be more tourneys with unique items in the future. So once word gets out, how do we prevent the dam that's holding back the festering cesspool of greater TF2-dom from bursting and infecting our lovely GWJ orchard? Without locking down all goodjer TF2 access to the point of absurdity?

My precious?

Minarchist wrote:
cyrax wrote:
Queueball wrote:

Those are medals from the last tourney that they said we would get, but never did (valve time and all). I suggested this time around we do hattes and/or tags since we have those now. We'd just need people to chip in. Which I'd be up for doing.

Right, if those medals ever become a reality it'd be nice to wear them in addition to the new award.

As much as I want unique medals and wiener hattes (and I really do), we should probably consider the consequences for a moment. We will have created two unique items that are more rare than even the golden wrench, over two separate tournaments — meaning that, presumably, there will be more tourneys with unique items in the future. So once word gets out, how do we prevent the dam that's holding back the festering cesspool of greater TF2-dom from bursting and infecting our lovely GWJ orchard? Without locking down all goodjer TF2 access to the point of absurdity?

It means you are only allowed to play on the private and never again can you play with the soiled masses that are the pubbies.

Koz wrote:

It means you are only allowed to play on the private and never again can you play with the soiled masses that are the pubbies.

And the downside is?

I'm in!

MyBrainHz wrote:

I'm happy to play in the tourney, and am honored to be nominated, but I really don't want to be a captain. I get enough wife aggro from doing server admin stuff as it is, I don't need *more* TF2 responsibilities. :roll:

I don't think the person who picks the team needs to also be the organizer/contact for the team. I believe that can be decided afterwards. I see no reason the captain has to do everything for the team. They should have a secretary. I believe all secretaries should receive a hat that has been named. Captains get the glory of being captains. Brainz, if you don't have to be an organizer would you be a captain?

Mex wrote:
Stele wrote:

Yeah Mex carried us to almost victory that night. :D

And it was a lot of fun n_n

I'd throw my hat for Team Captain but I don't have a mic and honestly I'd just wanna play this time around.

But with the pool of GWJers, it's impossible to have a team with at least one or two super experienced guys.

For team captains I'd suggest (if they're up to it) : Erik, Brainz, Evilhomer, evilseed, ukick, Dimmerswitch, Phish, and lately Qball is really annoying with every class >_<, they have mics, regulars on the GWJ servers and they're great guys, I'd be happy to be on any of their teams =)

edit: Oh yeah Moondragon was also captain last time around and he did great with all the organizing and stuff and he has a mic too.

I think there are two ways of looking at captains. First, should captains be people whom we simply don't want on the same team? I've heard many people say Mex and ukick should not be on the same team. If Mex is not a captain and ukick gets first pick (which should not happen) should Mex be disallowed as ukick's first pick?

My thoughts are that Mex should be a captain despite the lack of a mic. Mex is too good to be in the general pool of players. I would be fine being a captain but I don't believe I belong in the Over 9000 club that shouldn't be teamed together. If the over 9k people (like brainz) don't wish to be captain maybe we set up the first two players on each team and then let captains go from there. That way if Mex and Brainz and Evilseed are not captains then we can set up teams so that two of them are not together.

How will the draft be conducted? How will the draft order be decided? Will the draft order be public?

So, should we all rank our top six players or something so that we can make sure we're agreed on who to split up? Frankly the top 20-30 people on the server are all pretty damn good, and talent slopes off steadily after that (rather than crashing hard), but I agree that there are a handful of folks that can change the game by themselves.

Kinda wish this was a GWJ TF2 CCG. Booster packs contain 1 Podcaster, 3 drunk over 9000er, and 7 Pubs.

Hm... I think I'll test out how well I can stream TF2.
I have a stream that I set up for the LoL tourny on own3d.tv and it works pretty well for that.
Maybe we could get some streamed/shoutcasted games going on?

FedoraMcQuaid wrote:

Hm... I think I'll test out how well I can stream TF2.
I have a stream that I set up for the LoL tourny on own3d.tv and it works pretty well for that.
Maybe we could get some streamed/shoutcasted games going on?

Might be useful during normal play just to wait during refresh fortress.

I am happy to help organize on any team I get put on, if needed. Just call me in from the bench.

Cheers,

SodaGremlin

Once we have set the number of people captains will be decided. The draft will be live with me and the captains, the draft order, and who got picked when would remain secret. This isn't grade school, so we don't need people worrying about being picked last.

I am open to other questions or suggestions about the draft, or the tournament in general.

Psych wrote:

Once we have set the number of people captains will be decided. The draft will be live with me and the captains, the draft order, and who got picked when would remain secret. This isn't grade school, so we don't need people worrying about being picked last.

I am open to other questions or suggestions about the draft, or the tournament in general.

Agreed, besides, your stock goodjer is still better than your "stock pro pubbie"

I think it's important to come up with an accurate list for our captains. According to the current list:

Over 9000
ErikTheRed
ukickmydog
Mex
Renji
evilseed
FlamingPeasant
VTSupie
WizKid
Boogle
jinnie
Tempestblayze

Are those all agreeable? I agree with all of them, except jinnie who I don't know.

Expert
cheeba
carrotpanic
MyBrainHz
cyrax
Stele
DanyBoy
Dimmerswitch
Nightmare
Phishposer
EvilHomer3k
Minarchist
Koz
Queueball
General Crespin
MoonDragon
Quintin_Stone
Omaha
Radical Ans
Sinkwater
cube
Merphle
taer

I'd bump to Over9000: MyBrainHz, EvilHomer3k, Queueball, Koz. (I'd actually bump a couple more up probably, but I know we need to make a division somehow). Don't think I'd bump anyone down.

Intermediate
Fxeni (ugh :P)
i38warhawk
FedoraMcQuaid
iaintgotnopants
Latrine
animefan420
wanderingtaoist
Norfair
Nevin73
Jolly Bill
The_Judge
Lucky Wilbury
Asterith
jadefire21
Lars
nel e nel
Chumpy
Grubber788
Shawnosaurus
atomicvideohead
OG_slinger
ranalin
fuzzyb
Hockosi
Itsatrap
Strewth
LtWarhound
PandaEskimo
Pirate Bob
*Legion*
Rexneron
DF7
pop58
Nathaniel

I'd bump up Fxeni, FedoraMcQuaid, iaintgotnopants, Latrine, Norfair, ranalin, Itsatrap, Strewth.

Beginner
Nuean
Speedhuntr
koshnika
Sparhawk
BadMojo
absurddoctor

What the hell's Nuean doing at beginner? Should be bumped up to Expert.

To those I didn't mention I'd bump up - that doesn't mean I don't think you're good. It most likely means I don't know you, since I took a long break from TF2 and don't know a lot of people now.

However, I'm pretty confident that my choices have undervalued themselves.

Therefore, in my revised list, there would be at least 14 Over 9000's. So we're going to get 2-3 per team. Is it fair to say one team can't have ukick and Mex if the other teams get 3 Over 9000's and they only get the 2? May be. Personally I like Homer's idea that we should pick out captains but the captains are just in charge of picking the team and not administering them. We should perhaps ask every Over 9000 who wants to be captain, then we'll probably have a smaller pool to pick from.

As long as I get to keep the players I pick and not have the team randomly assigned to me, I don't care about anything else. What Psych says sounds good to me. I also nominate supie to be my secretary.

Edit: also, jinnie is donut

ukickmydog wrote:

I also nominate supie to be my secretary.

You just like his low-cut dresses!

I'll pass on the captain thing. I just got back in the game a couple weeks ago and there are quite a few new people I don't know.

Filled out the form and added my name to the list.

Psych wrote:

we don't need people worrying about being picked last.

I'll wear the badge proudly, thank you.

ukickmydog wrote:

I also nominate supie to be my secretary.

For the last time, just because someone is your secretary it does not mean you get to sleep with them.

Psych wrote:
ukickmydog wrote:

I also nominate supie to be my secretary.

For the last time, just because someone is your secretary it does not mean you get to sleep with them.

Doesn't stop them from trying though

But what if I wanna play with ukick u_u

I don't think it's that important to rank everyone based on skill, sometimes a team just works together real good...

Psych wrote:

For the last time, just because someone is your secretary it does not mean you get to sleep with them.

Pretty sure it does...

Psych wrote:
ukickmydog wrote:

I also nominate supie to be my secretary.

For the last time, just because someone is your secretary it does not mean you get to sleep with them.

This is one of the many reasons why I left my office job last year.

For all the talk about keeping the top players apart, I don't think it's worth that much fuss. For the most part a draft system will circumvent stacking. And captains should just be people who think they have what it takes to lead a team. I started typing in things here that teams can do that will be more advantageous than having a star player, but then I realized that I don't want most of you bastards reading it. Who knows what team you'll be on.

I mentioned it in IRC, but posting it here will push me off the fence.

This week (though it's been more than a little crazy) has been incredibly productive, which should let me participate in the tourney as a teammate, not just a mercenary.

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Queueball wrote:
FedoraMcQuaid wrote:

Hm... I think I'll test out how well I can stream TF2.
I have a stream that I set up for the LoL tourny on own3d.tv and it works pretty well for that.
Maybe we could get some streamed/shoutcasted games going on?

Might be useful during normal play just to wait during refresh fortress.

Well I'll test is out a bit tonight I guess.
Help me out here: http://www.own3d.tv/live/10886
give me feedbacks through steam. From watching it myself it seems a bit stuttery in game even though I'm not stuttering...

Dimmerswitch wrote:

I mentioned it in IRC, but posting it here will push me off the fence.

This week (though it's been more than a little crazy) has been incredibly productive, which should let me participate in the tourney as a teammate, not just a mercenary.

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