Sucker Punch - Symbolic? It's more likely than you think! (spoilers)

That looks deeply f*cked on multiple levels. Can't wait.

Its just looks so cool.

Yes please!
This is the only movie I am really interested for next year.

um..YES please.

This is the first movie I've ever seen where I've thought "I'd rather play this as a game." The story looks like garbage, but it also looks like it'd be a blast to play.

Just watched the trailer, rocking music video. Gotta love that opening track, solid version of a classic. Handed the headphones to the other half, and she thinks this is worth going to see. The outfits look a bit 'fan-service' but the rest? Cool.

It's stylish, but wrapping this in a serious-sounding story about a troubled young woman in the '50s is stupid bordering on insulting. The trailer is 100% visions that a young woman from the '50s couldn't possibly have -- where would she see the movies they're torn from?

EDIT: maybe it's a time-travel flick and I'll have to eat my words.

EDIT EDIT: . . . but it does kinda make me want to play Bayonetta again.

I liked it better when it made less sense.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

I liked it better when it made less sense.

Who needs sense? It'll just get in the way of the awesome bodies and sword fights.

The crazy thing is the female lead is the oldest sister from Lemony Snicket!

This movie looks is so up my alley it...

*melts*

I'm a little mad they snubbed Legend of the Guardians when they mentioned Zach Snyder's other films. Yes, I know... demographics. But Legend of the Guardians was awesome and visually miraculous! (I also thought it did pretty well at the box office)

ranalin wrote:

Who needs sense? It'll just get in the way of the awesome bodies and sword fights.

Hence my statement:

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

I liked it better when it made less sense.

I feel like people are thinking too hard about a movie with Dragons, Samurai with Mini-Guns and Mechs.

fangblackbone wrote:

The crazy thing is the female lead is the oldest sister from Lemony Snicket!

Cool, I thought she did a great job in that one (and in the remake of Ghost Ship, as much as anyone could do with that role). Been waiting for her to resurface!

Edit, after checking IMDb: Totally missed this The Uninvited flick she was in. Doesn't look like I missed much.

I hate to be a pessimist, but even as a fan of Zack Snyder I'm 90% sure this movie will be an awful, disjointed mess. It'll be a very pretty mess, though.

If a movie requires me not to think hard, it needs to make me. It's not my fault if it fails to do so. To early to say if Sucker Punch will or won't--300 did, Watchmen didn't.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

If a movie requires me not to think hard, it needs to make me. It's not my fault if it fails to do so. To early to say if Sucker Punch will or won't--300 did, Watchmen didn't.

Um...could you re-state your post in the form of a flow chart?

0kelvin wrote:

I hate to be a pessimist, but even as a fan of Zack Snyder I'm 90% sure this movie will be an awful, disjointed mess. It'll be a very pretty mess, though.

I'm thinking a more action packed version of The Cell. That one was all about the visuals too, right?

ccesarano wrote:

I feel like people are thinking too hard about a movie with Dragons, Samurai with Mini-Guns and Mechs.

This.

(Sigged)

mudbunny wrote:
ccesarano wrote:

I feel like people are thinking too hard about a movie with Dragons, Samurai with Mini-Guns and Mechs.

This.

(Sigged)

Character limit denied.

grobstein wrote:

It's stylish, but wrapping this in a serious-sounding story about a troubled young woman in the '50s is stupid bordering on insulting. The trailer is 100% visions that a young woman from the '50s couldn't possibly have -- where would she see the movies they're torn from?

EDIT: maybe it's a time-travel flick and I'll have to eat my words.

EDIT EDIT: . . . but it does kinda make me want to play Bayonetta again.

What movies? She's either crazy, or moving into an actual parallel world, I'm guessing the latter. I don't think it has anything to do with movie tropes, or time traveling.

Mytch wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:

The crazy thing is the female lead is the oldest sister from Lemony Snicket!

Cool, I thought she did a great job in that one (and in the remake of Ghost Ship, as much as anyone could do with that role). Been waiting for her to Blossom!

FTFY

Yeah, cool looking visuals and hot girls are nice and all, but the story looks like crap. And yeah, I'm one of those people who gets bored watching explosions unless there's a decent script.

I mean, the Big Important Quote given at the end of the trailer is "If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything." Really? REALLY? I hope that's supposed to be ironic and funny.

I am expecting a ton of camp, whether intentional or not. And sometimes unintentional camp can be genious!

But this is a movie that will have to try hard to let me down when all I am expecting is visuals and hotness.

I think Zach Snyder should buy the rights to Battle Angel Alita from James Cameron. (not that Cameron won't do a great job with it, but he has been squatting on it forever!)

MrDeVil909 wrote:
grobstein wrote:

It's stylish, but wrapping this in a serious-sounding story about a troubled young woman in the '50s is stupid bordering on insulting. The trailer is 100% visions that a young woman from the '50s couldn't possibly have -- where would she see the movies they're torn from?

EDIT: maybe it's a time-travel flick and I'll have to eat my words.

EDIT EDIT: . . . but it does kinda make me want to play Bayonetta again.

What movies? She's either crazy, or moving into an actual parallel world, I'm guessing the latter. I don't think it has anything to do with movie tropes, or time traveling.

Kidding about the time travel. My point is, these fantastic visions or shared hallucinations or whatever that are presumably supposed to come out of the mind of a troubled young woman in the 1950s take their visual style from action movies in the 1990s and 2000s -- they are the visions of someone who has seen a lot of those movies. They may not be intended as comments on movie tropes, but they sure look awfully familiar.

It would be more interesting and more honest, I think, for those fantasies (if they are fantasies) to look like something someone could possibly have conceived of in the 1950s. If you don't want to do that, Zack Snyder, well sh*t, you get to invent the frame story; invent something better.

grobstein wrote:
MrDeVil909 wrote:
grobstein wrote:

It's stylish, but wrapping this in a serious-sounding story about a troubled young woman in the '50s is stupid bordering on insulting. The trailer is 100% visions that a young woman from the '50s couldn't possibly have -- where would she see the movies they're torn from?

EDIT: maybe it's a time-travel flick and I'll have to eat my words.

EDIT EDIT: . . . but it does kinda make me want to play Bayonetta again.

What movies? She's either crazy, or moving into an actual parallel world, I'm guessing the latter. I don't think it has anything to do with movie tropes, or time traveling.

Kidding about the time travel. My point is, these fantastic visions or shared hallucinations or whatever that are presumably supposed to come out of the mind of a troubled young woman in the 1950s take their visual style from action movies in the 1990s and 2000s -- they are the visions of someone who has seen a lot of those movies. They may not be intended as comments on movie tropes, but they sure look awfully familiar.

It would be more interesting and more honest, I think, for those fantasies (if they are fantasies) to look like something someone could possibly have conceived of in the 1950s. If you don't want to do that, Zack Snyder, well sh*t, you get to invent the frame story; invent something better.

Yeah, I thought the time travel thing was a joke.

I don't think that they are fantasies though. I strongly suspect that the 'visions' are of a real parallel world.

But even if they are fantasies the events and things depicted; trench warfare, dragons, robots etc are things that were thought about in the fifties. The visual style is modern because it's a modern movie, and the anachronism of the whole melange is part of the draw.

Of course, some people will find the dissonance distracting. I like dissonance.

Heh, but here we are speculating about the plot of a movie based on a minute long trailer. Gotta love the internet.

mudbunny wrote:
ccesarano wrote:

I feel like people are thinking too hard about a movie with Dragons, Samurai with Mini-Guns and Mechs.

This.

(Sigged)

WHOO!

feeank wrote:

Mytch wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:
The crazy thing is the female lead is the oldest sister from Lemony Snicket!

Cool, I thought she did a great job in that one (and in the remake of Ghost Ship, as much as anyone could do with that role). Been waiting for her to Blossom!

FTFY

Speaking of which... I feel much less guilty about lusting after this beauty as she was of age then. She has since seasoned very nicely:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0691600/

I love me some Zack Snyder. This is definitely my current, "most anticipated movie." I love all of his films, although I haven't seen "Guardians..." What has got me excited is that we get to see an original story from him, for the first time. Although not his actual first film, it kind of feels like that for me.

This movie is porn straight out of my 13 year old mind. Well... at least one kind of porn.

Feeank wrote:
Mytch wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:

The crazy thing is the female lead is the oldest sister from Lemony Snicket!

Cool, I thought she did a great job in that one (and in the remake of Ghost Ship, as much as anyone could do with that role). Been waiting for her to Blossom!

FTFY

Lol, I suppose!

Being an educator, I'm so conditioned to not view teenage girls as anything approaching "hot" that, if I first encounter them at that age (in person or in film), it's tough for me to think of them as "attractive," no matter how much they grow up. So while I may know cognitively that, for example, Natalie Portman is widely regarded as "smokin' hot," to me she'll always be Mathilda, begging Léon to let her into his apartment.

At any rate, what I liked about Ms. Browning in Lemony Snicket (am I the only one that enjoyed it?) was the steel core that initially revealed itself through the eyes and worked its way outward over the course of the movie...which it appears will serve her and Mr. Snyder well in this movie. I'm in, and I suspect the wife will be on board as well.

Mytch wrote:

So while I may know cognitively that, for example, Natalie Portman is widely regarded as "smokin' hot," to me she'll always be Mathilda, begging Léon to let her into his apartment.

After like five years of having that on my Must See list, I finally watched it the other day. 1) Luc Besson continues to be right up there with my favorite Directors like Edgar Wright, Ridley Scott and David Fincher. 2) Half of my time spent watching that movie was thinking "JESUS CHRIST THAT'S NATALIE PORTMAN!"

It's a damn shame, too, because her performance in The Professional was SO GOOD, and then George Lucas, as with all his actors, just f*cked it all up.