Fringe Catch-All - You Are My Favorite Thing, Fringe. My Very Favorite Thing.

Aries wrote:

Sidenote: I just saw Leonard Nemoy in Vulcan (Alberta). He's in Calgary this weekend for a convention, and just took a side trip here to unveil a bronze bust of Spock, in celebration of Vulcan being named "Star Trek Capitol of Canada".

It was pretty cool.

Word is that Nimoy is retiring, considering his work on Fringe to be a high note he can go out on.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
Aries wrote:

Sidenote: I just saw Leonard Nemoy in Vulcan (Alberta). He's in Calgary this weekend for a convention, and just took a side trip here to unveil a bronze bust of Spock, in celebration of Vulcan being named "Star Trek Capitol of Canada".

It was pretty cool.

Word is that Nimoy is retiring, considering his work on Fringe to be a high note he can go out on.

I just don't get it. I know working on set can be tiring in it's own way, but for someone like him. Well they bend over backwards to make it as pleasant as possible. Why would you ever retire? At this point he can just pick any project he wants to work on. At least of those being offered. You could work right up until the day you die, and only do the stuff you find interesting.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:

Speculation related to the end of this weeks episode:

Spoiler:

Does anybody think that this "secretary" character is alternate universe Walter. It kind of looked like him in the gas mask thing at the end.

I absolutely think that:

Spoiler:

It's why the dying shapechanger's last words were "I'm sorry" to Walter.

Yup that was my thought too.

Can't really read any of this thread right now. Just started the show this weekend. Wanted to kinda mark this for later. And maybe give somewhere to post my initial impressions and then in a couple weeks when I'm caught up, can come back and see if you guys laughed at me or whatever.

My cousin recommended this and gave me the first season and he has the 2nd season saved as divx files, so that I can catch up quickly. Same cousin that got me into LOST a couple years back, so I trust him. And JJ Abrams, and Michael Giacchino. Just from the opening credits I'm intrigued.

So watched the Pilot last night. My wife is like "not another plane crash" but the plane of course did not crash. We both enjoyed the mystery. The mention of the Pattern. Immediately I want to meet the head of Massive Dynamics. Crazy Walter is funny, and we like Pacey... er, Peter. And stupid John... all that effort to save him and then he's gone.

Well we're through 105 Power Hungry now. And John doesn't quite seem gone, popping up as visions in Olivia's head. Walter has some secret about Peter that he vaguely mentioned in "Same Old Story" which makes me think he experimented on his own son at some point. Then we got the crazy appearances of the Observer, and his strange writing in The Arrival. And I just saw the Observer again in Power Hungry, getting off the elevator before our electric-guy got on there and killed everyone.

So I'm guessing the Observer was in the first 3 episodes too, but I just didn't know to look for him?

Oh and of course Broyles isn't telling Olivia everything. More cases she doesn't know about, and who knows what else. And he gave the woman terminator from Massive Dynamics that device that came from the DEA agent's hand. So I'm not sure if he's good, bad, or what? And I know that woman cyborg was in a meeting with him and others about the Pattern, but who is this group? And with MD involved in most of the cases early on, why is she part of the investigation team? So many questions so far.

And from Peter's behavior I'm not sure if his mob trouble story is real or what. There was a guy tailing him and taking pictures, but I got the feeling something else was going on.

Anyway seems like lots of long term mysteries planted. Very LOST-ish feel there. But also it feels more together, like maybe there's some plan. My cousin tells me there's some similar end-date negotiation like LOST as well, which makes me happy. Maybe we'll skip the boring 1st-half-of-3rd-season with all the stalling and dragging things out.

Anyway, so far I'm totally in. I loved X-Files when I was younger, but always wanted the mythology episodes. This thing seems to be freak of the week lathering in mythology and conspiracy. Perfect.

Maybe I'll check in tomorrow. Depends on how much the wife can take whether we make it all the way through season 1 this weekend. Most likely it'll be later in the week, but we'll see.

Stele, you're going to love it. Buckle up as the second half of Season 1 gets really good and the Second season doesn't letup - you're in a for a treat

Nosferatu wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:

Speculation related to the end of this weeks episode:

Spoiler:

Does anybody think that this "secretary" character is alternate universe Walter. It kind of looked like him in the gas mask thing at the end.

I absolutely think that:

Spoiler:

It's why the dying shapechanger's last words were "I'm sorry" to Walter.

Yup that was my thought too.

I came here to post that exact theory.

HansomB1derful wrote:
Nosferatu wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:

Speculation related to the end of this weeks episode:

Spoiler:

Does anybody think that this "secretary" character is alternate universe Walter. It kind of looked like him in the gas mask thing at the end.

I absolutely think that:

Spoiler:

It's why the dying shapechanger's last words were "I'm sorry" to Walter.

Yup that was my thought too.

I came here to post that exact theory.

at this point i don't see how it could be anything else..but then again...its Fringe.

Actually from the first season to the second, they seemed to have

Spoiler:

abandoned the "Pattern" plot line to focus on the war between the dimensions. I had forgotten about the Pattern until Stele mentioned it.

I have to say, the preview for the next episode reminded me (and not in a good way) of the ST:TNG Holodeck episode. "We layed some heavy sh*t last week, so let's have everyone dress in old-tyme garb to lighten things up!"

Holla wrote:
HansomB1derful wrote:
Nosferatu wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:

Speculation related to the end of this weeks episode:

Spoiler:

Does anybody think that this "secretary" character is alternate universe Walter. It kind of looked like him in the gas mask thing at the end.

I absolutely think that:

Spoiler:

It's why the dying shapechanger's last words were "I'm sorry" to Walter.

Yup that was my thought too.

I came here to post that exact theory.

at this point i don't see how it could be anything else..but then again...its Fringe.

Spoiler:

Makes you wonder what happened with alternate Bell.

Nevin73 wrote:

Actually from the first season to the second, they seemed to have

Spoiler:

abandoned the "Pattern" plot line to focus on the war between the dimensions. I had forgotten about the Pattern until Stele mentioned it.

Spoiler:

Wasn't much of "The Pattern" caused by the wound in reality from Walter's crossing over into the parallel dimension? At/near the end of season one they noticed that all the monster-of-the-week stuff was happening along these dimensional faultlines emanating from the lake, and they went back to the lake and sealed the wound in order to prevent whatisname from crossing over.

ruhk wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

Actually from the first season to the second, they seemed to have

Spoiler:

abandoned the "Pattern" plot line to focus on the war between the dimensions. I had forgotten about the Pattern until Stele mentioned it.

Spoiler:

Wasn't much of "The Pattern" caused by the wound in reality from Walter's crossing over into the parallel dimension? At/near the end of season one they noticed that all the monster-of-the-week stuff was happening along these dimensional faultlines emanating from the lake, and they went back to the lake and sealed the wound in order to prevent whatisname from crossing over.

I must've missed the nuances of that. Thanks.

Preview for tomorrow night's episode, noir style

That was all kinds of awesome!

It's going to be a fun episode, I'm sure.

Is it actually going to be in black and white, because that'd make it even cooler.

I'm a sucker for a good retro-style ad. Chuck had a pretty good one this week, too.

Stele wrote:

Crazy Walter is funny, and we like Pacey... er, Peter. And stupid John... all that effort to save him and then he's gone.

Oh, come on, call him Pacey. I describe the show to friends and family as "Cedric Daniels assigns the FBI's hottest blond to recruit Pacey and Denethor into reopening the X-Files."

It's weird to have a television episode start with a Rush song and not be a flashback!

Quintin_Stone wrote:

It's weird to have a television episode start with a Rush song and not be a flashback!

I know! I was totally convinced it was a flashback until the regular fringe folks showed up simply because of the Rush.

Been meaning to check back in. Still can't read anything you guys are writing... but I finished season 1, and am now into season 2.

Holy crap, Spock is William Bell.

And holy crap the thing that Walter hinted at doing some science on Peter was weirder than I thought. They didn't exactly come out and say it yet where I'm at, but Walter goes to look at Peter's 7-year-old grave at the end of that one episode. So I'm guessing Walter took this Peter from the other world?

I like agent... Amy? I forget. From NYC. But she was only around the first couple eps of the season so far. I think I'm up through episode 5 or so of the 2nd season. Anyway hoping she will join the team.

Sucks about Charlie. Really liked him. Wife called it that it was the shapeshifter. I just didn't want it to be true, but alas...

Not sure who/what this head thing is that they recovered. Definitely not good though, as "Belly" wanted Olivia to find it first.

Hm, what else? Oh yeah, good riddance to that one asshole, Harris was it? Mr "fringe is under review" for like 8 episodes. Can't believe he was kidnapping people. I just thought he was out to get Olivia. Once again my wife called it a couple episodes before.

I dunno, thoughts are jumbled a bit right now. The other universe thing is cool, these mercury-blooded shapeshifters are dangerous. I'm just not sure who to believe.

Can't believe Jones is gone too. After he survived before I figured he'd continue to be a nemesis for a while.

Speaking of him, weren't there more tests? I thought he mentioned 10 tests for the recruits, and Olivia only took the first with the lights.

Sam the bowling alley man is weird, but seems to be helping.

I dunno... maybe that's it for now. Crazy good show. Hope to catch up in another week or so.

Awe.

Some.

What great fun. In a bit of coincidence, my book club is reading The Maltese Falcon this cycle. It didn't exactly move anything forward, or really teach us anything new about the characters, but I loved every minute. Particularly the singing corpses and the glass heart image.

It feels like there should be a term for this sub-genre, the 40s tech sci-fi, along the lines of "steampunk". "Transistorpunk"? What's a good fundamental 40s technology?

This episode completely had me with the singing corpses. The episode was golden and could do no wrong after that.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

It feels like there should be a term for this sub-genre, the 40s tech sci-fi, along the lines of "steampunk". "Transistorpunk"? What's a good fundamental 40s technology?

Steampunk is fairly flexible in it's adoption, I think pretty much any pre-info age anochronistic tech can count. The ideal is the stereotypical Victorian gadgetry with superfluous gears, but most of what you see out in the wilderness is a scattershot pastiche of late 19th/early 20th century style.

ruhk wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

It feels like there should be a term for this sub-genre, the 40s tech sci-fi, along the lines of "steampunk". "Transistorpunk"? What's a good fundamental 40s technology?

Steampunk is fairly flexible in it's adoption, I think pretty much any pre-info age anochronistic tech can count. The ideal is the stereotypical Victorian gadgetry with superfluous gears, but most of what you see out in the wilderness is a scattershot pastiche of late 19th/early 20th century style.

Could we just call it Falloutpunk?

Why the retro style with the modern fish tank? It kept driving me nuts.

Nosferatu wrote:

Why the retro style with the modern fish tank? It kept driving me nuts.

And cell phones.

Hah! I didn't even notice until you pointed that out.

Paleocon wrote:
Nosferatu wrote:

Why the retro style with the modern fish tank? It kept driving me nuts.

And cell phones.

i posted that while watching the episode, by the time the cells showed up I was suffering from suspension of disbelief fatigue

Nosferatu wrote:
Paleocon wrote:
Nosferatu wrote:

Why the retro style with the modern fish tank? It kept driving me nuts.

And cell phones.

i posted that while watching the episode, by the time the cells showed up I was suffering from suspension of disbelief fatigue

That's pretty funny, since the whole episode was supposed to be a story told to a child, and not just that, but a story from the mind of a half-crazy man that had just gotten high smoking some apparently very good weed. I'm not sure suspension of disbelief is something you're supposed to really worry about with this particular episode...

*Tannhauser'd!

Yeah they had cell phones (and computers, LCDs, lasers, the internet...), but they were boxy retro-looking things with rotary phone ringtones. It's not a period drama, they were just trying to capture the aesthetic of an old detective movie. Besides, you're complaining about anachronisms in a story made up on the spot by an insane and incredibly stoned old man.

Loved the retro-style singing ep, geeked out when I saw Broyles as a Lieutenant in the police department like his role in The Wire :p

Whoa. Just watched 211 "Unearthed" Which is apparently 121? Charlie alive, and not a mercury-blooded imposter.

That was a very weird time to air an episode out of order. I mean I guess they had to show it sometime, but damn that was confusing.

Oh, Grey Matter was awesome. Confirmation that Walter did build a door to the other side, presumably to retrieve Peter, and Belly is the one that took apart his brain and hid his memories.