Mass Effect 2 Catch All

Random thought: When I played as standard male Shepherd, whenever he went up to Kaiden on the Normandy to have a chat and right before the dialogue starts, Sheperd always looks like he's having a really tense awkward moment with Kaiden. To me, it always looks like Shepherd is about to deck Kaiden for some unspoken evil. This makes the ensuing small talk pretty disappointing...

Grubber788 wrote:

Random thought: When I played as standard male Shepherd, whenever he went up to Kaiden on the Normandy to have a chat and right before the dialogue starts, Sheperd always looks like he's having a really tense awkward moment with Kaiden. To me, it always looks like Shepherd is about to deck Kaiden for some unspoken evil. This makes the ensuing small talk pretty disappointing...

That's because they used the same animation and camera angles for that scene when you play as the female shepherd, so the male shepherd gets stuck with the same sexual tension vibe. I always found it amusing.

SommerMatt wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:
SommerMatt wrote:

I just played the game a few weeks ago with a 100% paragon rating, but for the life of me I can't think of a time I had to make a choice to "save an entire race." Are they talking about the Thorian thingy on Feros? I can't remember any other situation like that...

More than likely it's the Rachni on Noveria.

Aaaaahhhhhhhhh yes. OK.

They better not come back to f*ck with me after I saved them

Does this really need spoilered? wrote:

[color=white]There was also the issue regarding the cure to the genophage which would allow Wrex' people to breed and not die out.[/color]

AnimeJ wrote:
SommerMatt wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:
SommerMatt wrote:

I just played the game a few weeks ago with a 100% paragon rating, but for the life of me I can't think of a time I had to make a choice to "save an entire race." Are they talking about the Thorian thingy on Feros? I can't remember any other situation like that...

More than likely it's the Rachni on Noveria.

Aaaaahhhhhhhhh yes. OK.

They better not come back to f*ck with me after I saved them

Does this really need spoilered? wrote:

[color=white]There was also the issue regarding the cure to the genophage which would allow Wrex' people to breed and not die out.[/color]

I suppose you could be right... I seem to recall something about that. I am pretty sure I told Wrex "too bad" in that situation. Was there a way to "cure" it in the game? I must admit that I never once put Wrex into my active party.

No way to cure it that I know of, but I'm pretty sure AnimeJ is referring to whether

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]you put a bullet in his brain or talk him down.[/color]

I don't know about anybody else, but I played through multiple times. Three times with the same character to get the "Level 60" level cap achievement, with another two plays with another character. At this point, I don't even remember what I did with my Shephard during her most recent playthrough!

I guess I'll just have to play through again. Aw, shucks.

I started a second replay, just for the DLC. The problem is, I gave up shortly after restarting because I was inundated with other games. I may go back to it after I finish my game-of-the-pile-for-this-month. If I don't finish the second replay with the same character, does anyone know what will happen when I import the save games into the new one? Will it take the information from the last completed playthrough?

I suspect that you will only pick one save game to import and whatever you did in that game is what affects the new one.

I have two completed saved games (one Paragon, one Renegade; one saved the Rachni, one killed them; one saved Wrex, one killed him; one saved the Council, one didn't and so on) I'm hoping to be able to play ME2 through with both.

So, if I get that quote correctly, we'll be able to point ME2 to an ME1 save game file when starting a new game. It will read it and use it to configure all relevant choices that can be inferred from the ME1 save. So, if you have a save file that is only half way through the game, it will apply those choices you made to ME2, but the rest will be filled in with defaults?! Interesting.

I'm going to be extremely PISSED if the game doesn't have a record of my initial play-through.

I beat the game, 100% paragon, saved Kaiden, saved Wrex, saved the Rachnii. The only reason I restarted was to play the "Bring Down The Sky" DLC, and on THAT play-through I decided to try and be a renegade. I don't know if I'm even going to bother playing through the game again more than once, but if the stuff I did on the original play-through doesn't count, it will be bad and I will cry.

My prediction is that you will only be able to import a "clear" save from the game end, and that it will only record what you did on your last playthrough; but I don't think there has been any official word. Like the exact fate of Commander Shephard they are playing their cards close right now.

SommerMatt wrote:

I'm going to be extremely PISSED if the game doesn't have a record of my initial play-through.

I beat the game, 100% paragon, saved Kaiden, saved Wrex, saved the Rachnii. The only reason I restarted was to play the "Bring Down The Sky" DLC, and on THAT play-through I decided to try and be a renegade. I don't know if I'm even going to bother playing through the game again more than once, but if the stuff I did on the original play-through doesn't count, it will be bad and I will cry.

I played through a few times with different characters and the game has made a new 'end game' save for each.

To see the different character saves (they are called careers) choose 'Load Career' on the first screen. This loads the list of current saves for your character. Hit 'Y' to switch careers. You will then see a list of 'careers.' I have one save for Frank Shepard who finished the game at level 47 and one save for Sarah Shepard who went round twice and finished the game for the last time at level 60.

Alien Love Gardener wrote:

No way to cure it that I know of, but I'm pretty sure AnimeJ is referring to whether

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[color=white]you put a bullet in his brain or talk him down.[/color]

No, there was a cure for it in that place you went. However, he was really pissed that no attempt to find it was being made. I suppose there's no real choice to be made there :/

I had to reformat my computer. Bye bye saved games. Bye bye achievments. Guess I have to play back through it again. *sigh. Should I be nice and get a blue girlfriend? Or be an asshole and give to Ashley? Either way Kaiden's gonna burn.

Grenn wrote:

Should I be nice and get a blue girlfriend?

Well, technically, you can get two blue poons in the game.

I'm interested to see how they handle Wrex in the game. There are actually THREE options with him; Option one, you shoot him on the beach. Option two, you talk him down at the beach. Option three, you never get him into your party. My first playthrough I chose option three, so he'd be around, but he shouldn't have any kind of knowledge of my George Shepard or the greater scheme of things. Hell, he shouldn't even be aware there was a cure for his species as I sure as hell didn't bring him there.

Can you not get Wrex in your party? I tried to ignore him on one playthrough and I thought he kind of shows up and says "I'm coming with you." Was there a way to turn him down?

Yeah I don't envy the programmers who have to deal with this using an old save file option. Especially when it comes time to play out the rest of the game with only the survivors of the first game...that would become a rats nest of code real quick.

CrashedHardrive wrote:

Yeah I don't envy the programmers who have to deal with this using an old save file option. Especially when it comes time to play out the rest of the game with only the survivors of the first game...that would become a rats nest of code real quick.

Which is why I bet the characters from ME1 will only play a limited, supporting role in ME2, just like Carth and Bastila did in KOTOR2. What we saw in the new video hints at something catastrophic happening that'll shake up the status quo.

CrashedHardrive wrote:

Yeah I don't envy the programmers who have to deal with this using an old save file option. Especially when it comes time to play out the rest of the game with only the survivors of the first game...that would become a rats nest of code real quick.

I really wonder about this, too... especially because they keep talking about how this is being done as a trilogy, and that by the third game, every player would have made further and further choices that would make THEIR Sheppard very different than someone else's. That's a lot of time and effort spent on variable paths that most gamers will never see.

Allegedly leaked stuff from OXM magazine.

Spoilers for ME2 & last novel wrote:

[color=white]Interesting that Omega and Cerberus, both big players in the most recent book, are playing a big role in the game, just as Captain Anderson and Saren also had big roles in both the first novel and first game.[/color]

Rat Boy wrote:

Allegedly leaked stuff from OXM magazine.

Spoilers for ME2 & last novel wrote:

[color=white]Interesting that Omega and Cerberus, both big players in the most recent book, are playing a big role in the game, just as Captain Anderson and Saren also had big roles in both the first novel and first game.[/color]

Yeah, that would make sense.

In reference to above spoilers wrote:

[color=white] I'm on my third play through and just played through the area in which the Doctor on the Citadel was being blackmailed by someone. Someone by the name "Baines" comes up in relation to Cerberus, but you only come up with a dead end when you try to investigate the man. In fact, the whole Cerberus subplot sort of ends on a cliffhanger, so I would be surprised if it wasn't a major part of the new game[/color]

Other possibilities of major plot elements could be the Batarians who had an interesting introduction in Bringing Down the Sky.

I think you'll probably get a Salarian teammate, since they were the most notable omission from the team of an alien species that could fight and were not evil. The Volus, Endor and Hanar council politics could be explored more too. Oh, the geek goodness!

Personally I thought the...

[color=white]Cerebus plotline came to a good conclusion in the game after you took out their Rikti manufacturing outposts. After all, you had that whole drama with them killing that Admiral who was standing around in the Council room. They just don't seem that important to be a primary antagonist in ME2.[/color]
Latrine wrote:

Personally I thought the...

[color=white]Cerebus plotline came to a good conclusion in the game after you took out their Rikti manufacturing outposts. After all, you had that whole drama with them killing that Admiral who was standing around in the Council room. They just don't seem that important to be a primary antagonist in ME2.[/color]

I'm not so sure about that. Cerberus seemed like a very insidious organization that may have its hands in all aspects of human existence. The little snippets that we got in the original game were there to show us how unscrupulous and limitless their corruption is. How far they will go in their quest for power. So, if humans are now on the council (or are the council), then it would make sense that Cerberus will seek to expend its power and dominion across other races.

I think I may be officially entering the media blackout phase for this game. The marketing hype is getting a bit too spoilerific and if I really want to enjoy the game, the less I know about it the greater the chances of it surprising me in a good way.

Enough with the teases of teases already!

MoonDragon wrote:

I think I may be officially entering the media blackout phase for this game. The marketing hype is getting a bit too spoilerific and if I really want to enjoy the game, the less I know about it the greater the chances of it surprising me in a good way.

I'm right there with you. I know I'm going to get it at this point so there isn't much point in following it past this point beyond when the release date is.

Well . . . that was kind of lame. Anticlimactic.

Anyway, why can't Dragon Age look this good?

inspiringsn wrote:
MoonDragon wrote:

I think I may be officially entering the media blackout phase for this game. The marketing hype is getting a bit too spoilerific and if I really want to enjoy the game, the less I know about it the greater the chances of it surprising me in a good way.

I'm right there with you. I know I'm going to get it at this point so there isn't much point in following it past this point beyond when the release date is.

Agreed. I know all I want to know about the game at this point. It was always going to be a purchase for me, so anything beyond this point would just spoil things. The real question is, do I finish my second run through with my "Paragon" character or do I create a new "Renegade"?