Micheal Moore and Oscars

I don''t know about that. After all, Michael Moore wasn''t in prison after the show, doesn''t have any fear of official retaliation, and can go right back out into the street and say whatever he feels. I''d argue that those who boo had just as much right to free speech as Moore, and just as much right as he to express their disgust with him.

Usually I like Michael Moore, but I''m not really with him on this one. It was an intentionally inflammatory, and controversial position to take. Considering how many people made heartfelt and reasonable pleas for peace, and were applauded, I don''t think it''s as much Moore''s sentiments as his delivery that turned the house against him. I have no doubt that Michael is quite pleased with himself and the reaction. He seems to live for this kind of thing.

OK Rant time.

It''s nice to see we can have a decent adult debate about anything her at GWJ.

I''d made the mistake of starting to read the comments on E.A.''s site about Michael Moore and the Oscars. I have to admit to getting pretty wound up reading to some of the comments some people were making.

I hate it when people can''t come together and have a reasonable debate about any subject without resorting to swearing and calling anybody who doesn''t agree with their viewpoint an a**hole!

I can understand that certain subjects are always going to cause differences of opinion but just because someone doesn''t agree with your viewpoint doesn''t make them evil or wrong.

It''s worse when someone presents a well argued case for their point of view only to be called something pretty vile by someone who only read the beginning of the argument and immediately got annoyed and put their keyboard in gear while their brain was still in nuetral!

I personally think that while inflammatory and not entirely appropriate he does have the right to say what he wants, I just don''t think it was the right forum for his sentiments.

I did actually find an interesting link to a well written and researched article on the comments section of EA''s site

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/...

Not everyone''s cup of tea and you amy not agree with the conclusions or even any of it but it is very well written and researched.

There, I''m happy again now that I''ve got that off my chest!

Oh, you''re right, it''s a pretty stupid comment. I''d just woken up and I''d just finished reading the Evil Avatar''s post and thread on this subject.

Never mind.

No...you don''t understand, Free Speech means that you''re allowed to say whatever you want and no one can disagree with you.

My problem with Moore is that he''s against the war because he hates Bush. Moore is a useful idiot. He doesn''t care why we''re going to war and if those are good enough reasons (which people can discuss and not insult each other) he just doesn''t like Bush. He''s like Jesse Jackson.

O.k. Moore is a lying jerk, as for his documentary please read the 2 following url''s:
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html(long)
and
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/1209/059.html(short)

Not only was his ""documentary"" staged/bullshit, which has been the case for most of his work, he has no ability to handle any critcism at all. Ever watch an interview of him where someone disagrees with him? He starts ranting at them. While at times he can be amusing, the fact that he''s such a polarized zealot & his constance use of lies/bullshit means very little of anything he says/does can be taken seriously at ALL. So yes I would have been booing along with a lot of others at the Oscars, had I watched/gone.

Also, as to wether this is a free country 2 things to note:

1. Go to france and insult the PM, Chrirac, and then take a look at the lovely $30k fine, least the''re stopping the mandatory jail time.

2. Try making a ""conservative"" speech/argument on a College campus in the US, and watch how you must retract/apologize, and then be forced to undergo ""diversity"" or ""sensitivty"" training, otherwise you''ll be punished/expelled.

That really depends on the comment, and smacks, I think, of exaggeration. Otherwise, I don''t think there''d be a whole lot of College Republicans walking around. Also, this largely depends on the region of the country you visit. I recently visited the University of South Alabama, and noted that there were no anti-war posters, leaflets, pamphlets, etc. to be had anywhere. I know when I attended Auburn University, liberalism was relatively taboo. To even imagine that universities in Georgia are anything like those in California, or those in Texas like those in Wisconsin, is a bit off.

A lot of incidents on that site sound like the issues surrounding the PGA holding a tournament at Augusta.

If you are a private organization or you are an organization affiliated with the state or federal government, at what point in popularity or size does it become irresponsible to not be gender, race, or religiously neutral? At what point does this irresponsibility justify legal action?

Woah there! Calm down. I wasn''t insulting you or the site you linked to. The only reason I stopped reading the further incidents on the site was because I found 2 of the first few interesting.

The political cartoon issue at the university was baffling. I saw nothing remotely wrong with the cartoon. *shrugs*

The fraternity wanting to display the confederate flag issue was interesting as well. If they want to display the flag, so be it. They can remain a fraternity and the university can absolve formal links and support for it and not allow it to participate in university sponsered events.

However, I don''t see how posing the question on irresponsibility and whether it can justify legal action is synonimous with banning free speech?

Here is my thoughts

**** MICHAEL MOORE

**** his politics, they SUCK. I''m sure I can point his flabby fat assed to a burger king though.

*Edited by Admin*

You''ve been warned before Valcron, tone down the language.

Last chance.

- Admin

You know, if I can''t say the F word on here WTF CAN I SAY?

I''ve abided by your wishes and not attacked anyone, and have watched what I said.

I think I have a right to say the F word. If not should we rename this site to www.homelan.com?

And no, Certis didn''t just break his own rule; he was quoting. And so am I.