EVE Online - Catch All & new meat check-in

Look forward to seeing you ingame, V-O. I hope someone has already given you the welcome to eve gift basket. If not, ask me about it ingame.

Also going to fire this up and give it a soild try. I have always heard great things about EvE, just felt it was not an MMO you tried on a weekend...

I stopped playing EVE eventually...and I've had fun trying a diversity of other games in the mean time. EVE is okay, but to really get involved it DOES take time if try to do anything except log in. The main problems I had were people claiming one account was fine, but really giving no reason why less than one account was feasible. Every corp I ever tried people weren't very cooperative and any attempts usually ended up in them saying I should use a second account instead. I don't like the idea of one person metagaming by having two seperate characters with independent consequences to their actions. I also don't like how it's easy to trade real money for in-game money by buying GTC. That kind of ruined the whole idea of it being 'just a game' to me, when you can interfere with real life money.

Of course that's just an opinion, but I'm on my longest break ever since I found the game in 2002. I think it's been three months :p

Khyron Malafactor is my toon name... Also xandric is in under Ulin Rayn

Get yourselves onto the GWJ channel (password 'gwjeve'). I'll be on there in EU time to chat, particularly as I am waiting around to move my base station and there is a large war in my way

Nice nullsec cascading crash this morning. At least that's what I'm assuming happened. Question for you veterans. When I do look to join a corp (not ready just yet) is there anything to look for / look out for? I'm primarily interested in mining and helping a corp in that aspect but I'm not interested in running missions or PVPing.

I would like that thank everyone so far that has had advice and gave me isk - I feel like such a heel...

armedbushido wrote:

I would like that thank everyone so far that has had advice and gave me isk - I feel like such a heel...

Enjoy!

Besides, unless you have money to buy shiny items to put into new shiny ships, it's not as fun to loot your wreck after we blow you up....

V-O wrote:

Question for you veterans. When I do look to join a corp (not ready just yet) is there anything to look for / look out for? I'm primarily interested in mining and helping a corp in that aspect but I'm not interested in running missions or PVPing.

For the most part, you'll want to have a fair amount of active people in your timezone. Space can get lonely and with MMOs, it's always the people you play with that makes the experience better (or worse.)

fstarta wrote:
V-O wrote:

Question for you veterans. When I do look to join a corp (not ready just yet) is there anything to look for / look out for? I'm primarily interested in mining and helping a corp in that aspect but I'm not interested in running missions or PVPing.

For the most part, you'll want to have a fair amount of active people in your timezone. Space can get lonely and with MMOs, it's always the people you play with that makes the experience better (or worse.)

QFT. My suggestion would be to find a teaching Corp(EVE University is one of the better out there), and learn the ropes. From that point, look to find a place to move on to when you're comfortable in your skin.

Eve-U is a good start.

Things I look for when deciding on a corp:

* active players in the corp at all: dead silence is bad.

* active players in my timezone. Having 500 active players in the euro-timezones doesn't do much for a north america timezone.

* Corp activities: If they are doing things, that's a good sign.

* Corp activities I want to do: Doing things I don't want to do is a bad sign. I don't want to do Faction Wars, and they are hipdeep in it, bad fit.

* Presentation: If the corp recruiting notice is 7 words, half of them misspelled 'leet'....

* Goon corp, and you aren't a member of their b/o/y/s/ c/l/u/b/ forum: Probably not a good fit. Probably just gonna get scammed, unless you can offer up BoB on a silver plate...

* Stability: Check how long the corp has been around. Check how long the officers (as listed in the corp info and corp recruiting notice) have been playing Eve and how long they have been in the corp (employment history).

* Kill boards: If you see lots of poorly fitted ships dying while flying the corp logo, maybe this isn't the corp for you.

If you don't know how to do this sort of research, learn. Ask in the GWJ channel, I'm sure you can get some pointers there.

At the moment I'm kinda idle, not in a corp. Character is Morgen StMichael.

LtWarhound wrote:

Eve-U is a good start.

Things I look for when deciding on a corp:

* active players in the corp at all: dead silence is bad.

* active players in my timezone. Having 500 active players in the euro-timezones doesn't do much for a north america timezone.

* Corp activities: If they are doing things, that's a good sign.

* Corp activities I want to do: Doing things I don't want to do is a bad sign. I don't want to do Faction Wars, and they are hipdeep in it, bad fit.

* Presentation: If the corp recruiting notice is 7 words, half of them misspelled 'leet'....

* Goon corp, and you aren't a member of their b/o/y/s/ c/l/u/b/ forum: Probably not a good fit. Probably just gonna get scammed, unless you can offer up BoB on a silver plate...

* Stability: Check how long the corp has been around. Check how long the officers (as listed in the corp info and corp recruiting notice) have been playing Eve and how long they have been in the corp (employment history).

* Kill boards: If you see lots of poorly fitted ships dying while flying the corp logo, maybe this isn't the corp for you.

If you don't know how to do this sort of research, learn. Ask in the GWJ channel, I'm sure you can get some pointers there.

At the moment I'm kinda idle, not in a corp. Character is Morgen StMichael.

Thanks, xandric and I have been pondering corps as our next move - just kind of doing some research - so any advice is great.

Also thanks again to all GWJ that have given isk, it really makes starting out a lot easier when your not worried so much about each penny you spend.

Can peeps start putting their Eve names on their sig, so I can see who I've been handing out the GWJ goody bags to ?

Done and done...

Maybe a list added to the thread?

Since this thread has grown beyond my expectations I figured a name change was in order.

Eve name is in my sig now. Thanks for the gift basket last night. As armedbushido mentioned, it does make some the more expensive purchases much easier to pull the trigger on.

Thanks for all the GWJ love in EVE... The welcome packages have been much appreciated and have really helped to get things going. I had long stayed away mostly from the stories of how involved it was, but I must say that I am having a great time.

Glad to hear you're having fun, xandric. Always great to have more gwjers to play with. Now, only 2000 more people to go and we'll be able to match the size of the GWJ WoW players.

fstarta wrote:

Glad to hear you're having fun, xandric. Always great to have more gwjers to play with. Now, only 2000 more people to go and we'll be able to match the size of the GWJ WoW players.

Well all I can say is EvE has really made me think why I started with MMO's in the first place. Games like UO, EQ, WWII Online, SWG are some of my best gaming memories...

I guess I am just not fond of this whole MMO Hybrid movement: WAR, WoW, AoC, etc, and even as much as I like LOTRO it fits in this there as well. Right now I probably look at Vanguard in a more positive light.

armedbushido wrote:

Right now I probably look at Vanguard in a more positive light.

Until you try playing again (i keep trying with each free week they send me and it still hasnt worked)

Don't do it!

Even I'm willing to admit after going back to Vanguard. It has some sort of mystical pull because the concept is great, but when you actually play it is missing the polish need to impress and the focus to keep people who try it around.

I think the main thing EVE has over VG that draws people (cough, me) and others back time and time again is how the world connects together across what VG calls spheres (EVE it would just be how the economy, PvE, PvP, etc all work together).

ranalin wrote:
armedbushido wrote:

Right now I probably look at Vanguard in a more positive light.

Until you try playing again (i keep trying with each free week they send me and it still hasnt worked)

Sure, still the one world thing keeps pulling at me...

Hockosi wrote:

Even I'm willing to admit after going back to Vanguard. It has some sort of mystical pull because the concept is great, but when you actually play it is missing the polish need to impress and the focus to keep people who try it around.

I think the main thing EVE has over VG that draws people (cough, me) and others back time and time again is how the world connects together across what VG calls spheres (EVE it would just be how the economy, PvE, PvP, etc all work together).

Agreed, the concept is awesome!

Anyway loving EvE, got into EVE-UNI - however there is so many people that are new to game not sure how much I will get out of it. Still might look for a corp looking to train a couple of new players or two.

Don't forget that you don't have to exclusively just roll with your EVE-UNI pod pilots. We can all still hang out and do stuff together in empire (provided my alliance doesn't get war decced.)

So, anyone keeping track of the Apocypha expansion blogs? There's some info there regarding refactoring the character creation stuff which might affect the newer players (and maybe the older ones, too.)

I have kept an eye on eve for awhile now and with the new box set coming out soon, I was curious what you all thought of the game. I am a bit tired of the fantasy mmos but a sandboxy, space sim caught my eye. I read about things that happen in eve with awe and wonder if its a place for me. Is eve a world for a new player? I keep hearing two differing opinions with the majority stating:
1. Learning curve is too steep
2. Real time skill progression keeps new players from being competitive

What do you think?

blackanchor wrote:

I have kept an eye on eve for awhile now and with the new box set coming out soon, I was curious what you all thought of the game. I am a bit tired of the fantasy mmos but a sandboxy, space sim caught my eye. I read about things that happen in eve with awe and wonder if its a place for me. Is eve a world for a new player? I keep hearing two differing opinions with the majority stating:
1. Learning curve is too steep
2. Real time skill progression keeps new players from being competitive

What do you think?

I'd say the real-time skill progression actually *helps* new and casual players be competitive. That is, you don't have to grind away for hours and hours to be decent at something. That said, early on you're going to need to pick one or two things and train to be decent at those, but as time goes on, you can gradually expand your oeuvre to include more different things. Also, if you build you character right, you start out with a fairly beefy set of skills right off the bat.

As far as the learning curve goes.....well, it's not any worse that Europa Universalis 3.=) I'd say it's not that hard to figure out how to fit your ship and start running missions. Certainly, there are plenty of guides out there to help you as well. Things like manufacturing and PvP are a little more complicated, but you can ease into those.

Well PVP isn't that hard really, its more just a question of keeping your head, and setting up your ship correctly to match your gang (if any). Manufacturing isn't that bad, but reserach is a pain in the ass. Well I guess POS manufacturing can be annoying as well, but I wouldn't touch running a POS with a 10000000000ft. poll.

And the skill training is a bonus to new players as necroyeti says. Sure you won't be able to fly the same ships as some older players but it really doesn't take you that long to be able to if you speciallize correctly, and the "more advance" ships really aren't that much better than the basic onces.

Hey guys,
I'm not a new EVE player. However, I am a relatively new member to GWJ. I quit for awhile, but some friends "forced" me to come back. I'll have to check out the GWJ channel when I get home from work. Be expecting Thayer Murdock to join up and say "Hi!". I'm hoping to gain some more friendly contacts in the cutthroat world of EVE... and you guys seem friendly enough.