GWJ musicians unite! Jam exchange program.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

I have 13 gauge with a CGCFAD tuning which is a little, ummm.... METAL.

Fixed?

Duoae wrote:

Just in case anybody didn't/doesn't know and it helps with grouping etc. i can sing (badly) play guitar and simple piano/keyboard. I have no skill or idea about backing such as drums and bass.... i wish i did ^_^*. Oh and my style is usually folky, soft rock or punk.

We should all post a list of instruments and genres we play; that way, if it's obvious that a certain track just needs theremin, we'll know who to turn to (not me, unfortunately.)

I play guitar and bass pretty well, I dick around with banjo, mandolin, harmonica, and keyboards, I can technically play piano and drums, though not very well, and I own a violin. I guess I can play it decently if I'm just plucking the strings, and not using a bow. I also play around in Reason from time to time.

I mostly play dance-punk, post-rock, and noise-rock with occasional forays into gothic Americana and disco (as well as an ill-fated attempt at blending the two).

Quintin_Stone wrote:

I'm willing to learn to play the recorder.

For some reason I have never, ever been able to play a recorder.

LiquidMantis wrote:

I can see the need to upload a mixed down version so people can record their own part with simpler software solutions, but I still hope people will upload the separate tracks. If everyone just adds to a mixed down version then it'll get muddy I think. With tracks one of the sound guys can EQ the separate parts and adjust panning so we can get a clear mix out of it. It'd be interesting to see different mixes with the same tracks too.

If we could all agree to use Audacity or something, we could post the .aup and the .wavs so that people can get in there and muck around in the guts with ease.

Podunk wrote:
LiquidMantis wrote:

I don't think I follow you as I can't see any need to divide up. I don't know that there will be enough people regularly contributing to divide up for one, but I just figured that the same root project can branch as people add tracks too, especially if they're just standalone tracks and not mixed down. I mean the sequencer guys can certainly start their own folder/project with a rhythm track. Unless I'm missing something can't they also record new tracks to a base rhythm track too?

Not unless there is some way to sync to time code, or to supply wavs as part of some larger project format that includes time code or MIDI data. Loops and sequences require more than just raw wavs and a tempo marking to play nicely with other peoples' projects. I've synced up sh*t like that by hand before and it is both incredibly time consuming and completely devoid of fun.

I've done it before as well, you are right, it's a royal pain in the a$$, but it can't be beat for flexibility.

Maybe we should all agree to use a common DAW? Reaper looks awesome from what I've seen, and is unlimited shareware. Otherwise there are free alternatives like mu.lab, which is pretty fully featured but not all that friendly.

Buuuut most people will want to use the software they are most familiar with....especially people who have dropped a fair amount of money on their software.

Whatever we end up doing will probably be easier than bouncing down 4 track stuff like they used to.

HaciendaSquish wrote:
MrDeVil909 wrote:

I have 13 gauge with a CGCFAD tuning which is a little, ummm.... METAL.

Fixed?

Yeah, very f&ckin' metal \m/

And nothing else,.. I'm mellowing with age.

Sounds interesting, I might be up for contributing. I play trumpet and have both a Bb and piccolo trumpet.

I want to do it now but I need to get some work done so this evening I'll get some real basic short segments up that can be looped. It's probably a whole lot easier to just get this started with some rudimentary jam tracks than trying any song composition. Or if nothing else recording some A, B type blocks that can be pieced together.

Podunk wrote:
LiquidMantis wrote:

I don't think I follow you as I can't see any need to divide up. I don't know that there will be enough people regularly contributing to divide up for one, but I just figured that the same root project can branch as people add tracks too, especially if they're just standalone tracks and not mixed down. I mean the sequencer guys can certainly start their own folder/project with a rhythm track. Unless I'm missing something can't they also record new tracks to a base rhythm track too?

Not unless there is some way to sync to time code, or to supply wavs as part of some larger project format that includes time code or MIDI data. Loops and sequences require more than just raw wavs and a tempo marking to play nicely with other peoples' projects. I've synced up sh*t like that by hand before and it is both incredibly time consuming and completely devoid of fun.

Could we use a 'beep' to do this? I know that Audacity has the provision to place a beep at a certain frequency for a certain time. You could use 1-5 beeps at the start of a track to align different wav files accurately.

[edit] Misunderstood what you were saying... ignore what i wrote

HaciendaSquish wrote:

If we could all agree to use Audacity or something, we could post the .aup and the .wavs so that people can get in there and muck around in the guts with ease.

The only problem is with uploading an .aup folder.... in my experience they can get very big very quickly.

LiquidMantis wrote:

I want to do it now but I need to get some work done so this evening I'll get some real basic short segments up that can be looped. It's probably a whole lot easier to just get this started with some rudimentary jam tracks than trying any song composition. Or if nothing else recording some A, B type blocks that can be pieced together.

Yeah, for an impromptu jam session that would probably be best. No doubt people are going to want to get more complex eventually, but that can grow organically.

Just want to give this a little bumpitydoo as I don't want it to fade out of awareness.

I tried to get some rhythm stuff recorded but I realized that without a bass player locking me in a groove my rhythm tends to float around more than I like and I couldn't get a take I felt comfortable uploading. I should try to record some stuff over a click track rather than a drum track.

If anyone needs a simple bass drum line send me a PM and what BPM you want it at... They are Korg syth drums though but its easy to calculate.

LiquidMantis wrote:

Just want to give this a little bumpitydoo as I don't want it to fade out of awareness.

I tried to get some rhythm stuff recorded but I realized that without a bass player locking me in a groove my rhythm tends to float around more than I like and I couldn't get a take I felt comfortable uploading. I should try to record some stuff over a click track rather than a drum track.

I'll throw down some walking bass lines in various keys...once I buy a mic. And that once is sort of an if.

LiquidMantis wrote:

Just want to give this a little bumpitydoo as I don't want it to fade out of awareness.

I tried to get some rhythm stuff recorded but I realized that without a bass player locking me in a groove my rhythm tends to float around more than I like and I couldn't get a take I felt comfortable uploading. I should try to record some stuff over a click track rather than a drum track.

This weekend I'm going to be getting a bunch of VST instruments up and running so I will be able to do some synth lines and loops. Some of the instruments are pretty natural sounding, and some squelchy stuff could be good for horizon expansion.

I tried putting together just a beat track last night but didn't really come up with anything compelling. Typically, I work from the main melody down (bass, drums, synth fills, etc...), so just trying to do that was an interesting experiment for me. I might give it another shot tonight.

I must say that I am fascinated by the idea you guys have put together. I play guitar at about an intermediate level and plan to play around with whatever it is you guys come up with, though I'm not sure I'll be able to contribute anything of value myself. The setup I have is very basic. My sound card has a panel into which I can connect a quarter inch plug either directly from my guitar or from my amp.

HaciendaSquish wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

I'm willing to learn to play the recorder.

For some reason I have never, ever been able to play a recorder.

Like any other instrument, learning to play it well takes some time. If you're already a woodwind player, it will be easier. I've been playing recorder for about 12 years, and it's only been the last year or so I've felt that I'm really approaching the advanced intermediate level of play. (If I practiced more, I'm sure I'd be better). I own recorders in sizes from sopranino (think piccolo) down to great bass (low note is C below middle C, up two and a half octaves... though that last octave is kind of iffy, and fits better on the other instruments.)

I may download the tracks to see what you're up to, and what it inspires me to play.

Keep this going for a year, so I can be passably competent at bass by then.

Yay, a bump! The great thing about bass is that you don't need a lot of skill for a rudimentary bass line. You could do something as simple as basic four-on-the-floor following the changes and make an awesome contribution.

This is a really great idea. My hobbies go through phases, and just last night I blew the dust of my old Yamaha synth and hooked it back up to my PC, just for a laugh -- I love noodling around with the filter knobs and arpeggiator for a laugh. It's usually around this time of the year that I get grandiose ideas about entering the RPM Challenge, even though all I've managed to write in the last few years is a few minutes of techno twaddle.

Still, this sound like fun, so I'll help out if I can!

I tried to put some stuff together over the last while, but working on the car has kept me away from learning Reaper. Still on the burner when I get tired of smelling like oil.

I can see this idea being a slow burner, we must just keep it alive.

This sounds cool and I can toss down some lap steel when needed.

Cool to see interest. Just a reminder to people to pm their LiveID to LiquidMantis so he can give you SkyDrive access.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Cool to see interest. Just a reminder to people to pm their LiveID to LiquidMantis so he can give you SkyDrive access.

Do you mean microsoft Live? Or is there another LiveID service type thing?

Yes! ....er....I think..... Windows Live.

MS and their poxy generic names for things, their whole marketing department needs to face a firing squad.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

Yes! ....er....I think..... Windows Live.

MS and their poxy generic names for things, their whole marketing department needs to face a firing squad.

Fox News wrote:

Microsoft layoffs were announced today via an anonymous third party through a message board post on the internet. Mr Devil - thought to be Bill Gates himself - noted with some dissatisfaction that the whole marketing dept. should face 'a firing squad'.

In other news, Mr Gates today applauded the imminent retirement of Steve Jobs - the CEO of Apple, makers of the iPod. Mr Gates stated that it was high time that new and innovative blood be left to guide the company into the coming years.

Duoae wrote:
MrDeVil909 wrote:

Yes! ....er....I think..... Windows Live.

MS and their poxy generic names for things, their whole marketing department needs to face a firing squad.

Fox News wrote:

Microsoft layoffs were announced today via an anonymous third party through a message board post on the internet. Mr Devil - thought to be Bill Gates himself - noted with some dissatisfaction that the whole marketing dept. should face 'a firing squad'.

In other news, Mr Gates today applauded the imminent retirement of Steve Jobs - the CEO of Apple, makers of the iPod. Mr Gates stated that it was high time that new and innovative blood be left to guide the company into the coming years.

Gah! rumbled!

Well I finally got around to playing with Reaper and seeing if I couldn't figure it out.

I had a lot of nasty line noise, but did manage to pull out a few loops that I liked. Very basic, noisy, loops. Hopefully I can figure out how to get some better quality recordings out of my setup. That and figure out how to stay remotely on tempo for more than a few bars. o_O

It wasn't very obvious where the share was, so I edited the OP to have the link to the root.

Hooray! There's stuff on there now! Also, bump!

sure if i can find a way to record my music i'll post some… i play guitar and mostly bits and pieces i'm self-taught so it's nothing special.

I've been playing Bass for 13 years now in case you all are still looking... All I have to record is my super sweet Fatal1ty Sound Blaster input and recording suite. I'm open to new suites if they're cheap or free.

Hopefully you're not going for studio quality.

Hello I am Arovin and I am lacking in any musical talent what so ever.

But I brought a copy of FL Studio a while back in the hopes that one day I would take the time to learn how to use it. Would this project allow me a chance to learn how to mix? Can I contribute?