"Quantum of Solace" (James Bond) trailer online

Pharacon wrote:
vega wrote:

stuff...

You're thinking too much, the books are cannon the movies are a hack and slash of the books. For instance moonraker is not about making a space station populated with really hot chicks (but that would be cool) but of a crazed nazi getting revenge on the UK via nuke.

James Bond is an assasin! He goes in, figures out what the heck is wrong and kills people. So the cold blooded killer and gritty nature of the new movies is a great fit! But what is missing and hopefully toward the end of Quantum we will see is a more refined bond. But again because of excellent writing this thuggish Bond is great because that is how he started out. The refined Bond ios what Connery did a fantastic job of potraying. Bond knows he is going to die young, he doesn't have a 401k or any retirement thing going on. He is living life to the fullest knowing death can come at any moment. The reason why Bond survives longer than other double o's is because he is anal about awareness. In the books he will place loose hairs into the door jam when he leaves his room, and when he comes back even if it is there he will pull his gun out and then enter slowly. This has allowed him to live longer.

His no fear of death is also reinforced by him liking to cuckold his enemies, it is more of thrill. If you guys have not read the books go to your local library and read them, most of them are pretty short and they are wonderfully well written and engaging.

QFT

Looks amazing.

Pharacon wrote:

You're thinking too much, the books are cannon the movies are a hack and slash of the books.

At some point the movies popularity eclipses the books and the movies are cannon. Really who sits around arguing about the changes in "The Wizard of Oz"? Anyone actually read the books? Hell no, the movie is the Wizard of Oz. Same thing with the bond movies. The number of people who have read the books is tiny compared to the numbers who have seen the movie, and the books while good were never even really bestsellers.

I am not a big Bond fan, and still haven't seen Casino Royale.

Looking at this trailer... all I could think of is "The Bond Identity."

And the name! Gah! Could it BE any more nonsensical?

farley3k wrote:
Pharacon wrote:

You're thinking too much, the books are cannon the movies are a hack and slash of the books.

At some point the movies popularity eclipses the books and the movies are cannon. Really who sits around arguing about the changes in "The Wizard of Oz"? Anyone actually read the books? Hell no, the movie is the Wizard of Oz. Same thing with the bond movies. The number of people who have read the books is tiny compared to the numbers who have seen the movie, and the books while good were never even really bestsellers.

I have read all the Oz books.... Oz is in the books not the movie. I would bet more people have read the books than seen the movie as well.

Pharacon wrote:
farley3k wrote:
Pharacon wrote:

You're thinking too much, the books are cannon the movies are a hack and slash of the books.

At some point the movies popularity eclipses the books and the movies are cannon. Really who sits around arguing about the changes in "The Wizard of Oz"? Anyone actually read the books? Hell no, the movie is the Wizard of Oz. Same thing with the bond movies. The number of people who have read the books is tiny compared to the numbers who have seen the movie, and the books while good were never even really bestsellers.

I have read all the Oz books.... Oz is in the books not the movie. I would bet more people have read the books than seen the movie as well.

I've read all of the Oz books as well, but the MOVIE is by far more culturally significant.

SommerMatt wrote:

Looking at this trailer... all I could think of is "The Bond Identity.

Exactly what I wanted to post. Not that it's a bad thing, but this new Bond movie seems to have a lot of the feel of the Bourne movies.

This one is new, I believe: http://ve3d.ign.com/videos/36093/PC/...

Damn, the trailer on PSN is so freaking good. Communicates action without giving anything significant away. Best trailer in a long time, too many trailers these days give away the high points (I'm looking at you, Iron Man).

So wait, the only person James Bond can trust is George Lucas?

Ranger Rick wrote:

So wait, the only person James Bond can trust is George Lucas?

He can teach him how to duck out of the way of shots coming from point blank range.

Yea that guy did look like George Lucas didn't he. Except it's the faux inspector from Casino Royale that they hauled off to interrogate when Bond was in that hospital.

AMEN MR BEACH!

The new Jack White/Alicia Keys theme song is available online.

Another Way To Die (links to iMeem)

It's actually not too bad. And it has a better James Bondish title than the movie does. Actually, that probably would have been a good title for the movie.

Similarities? A nod to the past? Hmmm...

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"Well, there it is. In homage to Jill Masterson's gilded asphyxiation in Goldfinger..."

Spoiler:

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Quantum of Solace has apparently filmed a similar scene in which Gemma Arterton's character covered in oil. "
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Source: http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/10/p...

I was hoping there was a newer thread.
Anyway, I saw it today. It was good.

spoiler wrote:

[color=white]The whole movie had elements of other bond movies, it was odd.
Who realized the real target was the water, not oil?
Although I admit I thought they were going to discover the real resource when they fell in the sinkhole.

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That would have been so old school Bond.
I also don't understand who that guy was at the end. Oh, well, I plan on watching it again at the dollar theater. Also, a link to the entire dialog would be helpful.

I so hope they one day bring back the huge, climactic firefights in the bad guy's fortress.

I just saw it today, in fact, (long non sequiter story about my sister and her friend at the theater trading voice mails with another friend who just got engaged the moment the lights started to dim not included) and I have to say it goes right up there in my top ten Bond movies. There rarely was a lull in the action; honestly, if you want to do a drinking game with friends when this comes out on Blu-Ray, set the rules to anytime Bond fights someone, beats someone up, or steals guns, clothes, or cars. It's like watching Daniel Craig playing a Grand Theft Auto game. If I had to rank the top ten Bond movies...

1. Goldfinger
2. You Only Live Twice (a very close second, actually)
3. From Russia With Love
4. Thunderball
5. Dr. No
6. Casino Royale (the Craig version, obviously)
7. Goldeneye
9. The Man with the Golden Gun
10. Quantum of Solace

I kinda wanna see this movie since I liked the last one, but I've been hearing there's lots of action with the stupid "cameraman is drunk and every action shot is blurry and you don't know what's going on" thing that has kinda ruined most movies from the last decade (Gladiator started the trend I think...).

One of the big reasons I didn't put Batman Begins in my favorite list is the confusing action scenes... =P

Mex wrote:

I kinda wanna see this movie since I liked the last one, but I've been hearing there's lots of action with the stupid "cameraman is drunk and every action shot is blurry and you don't know what's going on" thing that has kinda ruined most movies from the last decade (Gladiator started the trend I think...).

One of the big reasons I didn't put Batman Begins in my favorite list is the confusing action scenes... =P

Okay now you've done it again you filthy wonderful Mex. I have to know who would win in a brawl.

Mex wrote:

I kinda wanna see this movie since I liked the last one, but I've been hearing there's lots of action with the stupid "cameraman is drunk and every action shot is blurry and you don't know what's going on" thing that has kinda ruined most movies from the last decade (Gladiator started the trend I think...).

One of the big reasons I didn't put Batman Begins in my favorite list is the confusing action scenes... =P

Oh, you'll hate Quantum of Solace. Most of the action scenes are dull, incoherent and messy. Craig is still ace, but overall it's a really poor follow-up to Casino Royale.

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

I didn't like it at all.

1. No Q, no exotic technology, to tricky gadgets
2. No larger-than-life villan
3. No freaky villan's right-hand/henchman to be fought in a final standoff scene
4. The girl is ugly
5. Several utterly nonsensical scenes
6. Daniel Craig a complete goon

7. Song sucked donkey balls.

Could not disagree more with everything on Gorilla's list.

The only complaint I can kind of honor is number 5, because the story is not told in a very cohesive manner. It's all very random and feels almost out of order somehow.

The rest of it is rubbish. Especially the part about Olga Kurylenko being ugly

Thin_J wrote:

Could not disagree more with everything on Gorilla's list.

The only complaint I can kind of honor is number 5, because the story is not told in a very cohesive manner. It's all very random and feels almost out of order somehow.

The rest of it is rubbish. Especially the part about Olga Kurylenko being ugly :P

Indeed. Quantum of Solace has lots of problems, and I didn't particularly like it, but I'm entirely with you there.

The bit about Craig is also spectacularly wrong, he's a fantastic Bond.

I didn't like it at all.

1. No Q, no exotic technology, no tricky gadgets
2. No larger-than-life villan
3. No freaky villan's right-hand/henchman to be fought in a final standoff scene
4. The girl is ugly
5. Several utterly nonsensical scenes
6. Daniel Craig a complete goon

Edit:

7. The opening song sucked, as rightfully pointed out by RB.

Thin_J wrote:

Could not disagree more with everything on Gorilla's list.

The only complaint I can kind of honor is number 5, because the story is not told in a very cohesive manner. It's all very random and feels almost out of order somehow.

The rest of it is rubbish. Especially the part about Olga Kurylenko being ugly :P

I'd like to know exactly how "the rest is rubbish". These things are a the staples of James Bond movie-making canon. And you can only hack so much at the canon before the franchise gets watered down to just another spy movie kind of thing.

So what we got instead?

- A dismissable villain with an evil, but hardly world-threatening agenda
- A marshmallow pushover of a henchman
- A total of 1 minute of an Aston-Martin being abused
- Two scenes with a Sony Ericsson product placement
- A desert being the most exotic locale shown
- A fistfight at a burning hotel filling the place of a requsite apocalyptic showdown

Verdict: weaksauce.

And I stand by my assertion that Olga Kurylenko is completely unremarkable, if not unpleasant. You should really try and see past this usual syndrome of thinking that each and every B-list female is "hot" if she land a movie role. Besides, her casting (as well as casting of pretty much all other characters, especially the villain and his pushover henchman) is really a perplexing choice on the part of the director. Picking a Ukrainian to play a South American. I am sure there could be a more convincing choice made than that.

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

And I stand by my assertion that Olga Kurylenko is completely unremarkable, if not unpleasant. You should really try and see past this usual syndrome of thinking that each and every B-list female is "hot" if she land a movie role.

I haven't seen the movie but I found some pics of her and this girl is 100% grade A certifiable HOT

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9...

(maybe nsfw)

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

I didn't like it at all.

1. No Q, no exotic technology, no tricky gadgets
2. No larger-than-life villan
3. No freaky villan's right-hand/henchman to be fought in a final standoff scene
4. The girl is ugly
5. Several utterly nonsensical scenes
6. Daniel Craig a complete goon

Edit:

7. The opening song sucked, as rightfully pointed out by RB.

Pretty much agree with this all besides 4 and 6. I think Craig has some more range but they seem happy to just play him as a complete goon.

On the ride home with my friend we were both kinda confused how anti climatic the whole thing was. Wait what they are cornering the what market in which country? I don't care show me more girls and gadgets. Didn't even realize the lack of cool gadgets until the next day when I reflected that yes that was supposed to be a Bond film and there really was lacking amount of cool stuff and hot chicks.

so yea add 8. Lack of girls.

It is evident that Craig is giving the role 100%. It's just that it's not his role to play.

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

It is evident that Craig is giving the role 100%. It's just that it's not his role to play.

Maybe but I'm not sure how fair it is to say hes not good enough without offering a replacement. Who was in the running before again? Orlando Bloom? gah.

I think the best situation would of been Pierce never leaving but after Die another day I think everyone involved wanted a reboot.

edit: Kinda surprised actually no one else has tried to just straight up steal the genre with a clone. Besides Jack Bauer we really don't have enough special agent ass kicking entertainment. Closest thing we got is what Triple X?

A whole bunch of people were in the running. Reportedly, it included Christian Bale himself. After not getting the Bond role which he coveted greatly, he settled for, well, we know which role. And totally aced it. He'd make a Fantastic bond, I think. Smooth, sly, charismatic, just a touch creepy international super-agent bonvivan psycho killah.