Doctor Who *Spoilers Abound! We've lost Containment*

Tenant has been great in the role, but his interpretation of the Doctor is a guy who is all but human. I'd like to see what ideas someone else has for the role. Changing doctors is a part of the series.

*Legion* wrote:
Nimcosi wrote:
Funkenpants wrote:

Then ditch Tenant. It's time for a new doctor anyway.

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I'm with this guy. :D

Me too!

Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee, Baker (the cool one), Davidson, Baker (the not cool one), McCoy, McGann, Eccleston and Tennant makes 10. An honourable mention goes to Cushing, but he is non-canon.

The Master went through at least 2 more bodies following his 12th regeneration/12 life, so it would seem that the rules are eminently bendy.

What about the new assistant? We have had love interest, unrequited love, and fraternal love. What's next? Paternal? The Doctor's "daughter" is around somewhere. A male companion would seem obvious, but it would ruin the balance of the show, and affect demographics, I think (even if the character turned out to be straight and not in love with the Doctor, which, given the show's history under RTD, seems unlikely!)

The new assistant would almost have to be from a fairly contemporaneous Earth, since that is the element that has leant the show it's humanising element since the return. Given the target audience, someone from the UK seems likely as well, since this is a BBC show.

Sally Sparrow would be great, but despite the above, River Song would be very good; one who knows the Doctor already, perhaps.

I think a male companion could work. Especially if he was Kirk-esque and had to bag every female alien they ran across.

What about two companions? Perhaps a young married couple. It could be their honeymoon!

oldmanscene24 wrote:

I think a male companion could work. Especially if he was Kirk-esque and had to bag every female alien they ran across.

You mean like Captain Jack?

I wouldn't mind seeing the Doctor's daughter again, but I think that the next companion will have to be River Song. That, or we should never, ever see her again. Moffat created both River and according to an audio commentary asked for the Doctor's daughter not to die, so I wouldn't be surprised to see either one.

And speaking of Moffat, don't forget to list the first season's The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances in his credits. Not only was it a brilliant story, but line "Are you my mommy?" was the creepiest thing in season 1 and the funniest thing in season 4.

Please, no more doctor's daughter. Please. I am begging you, BBC.

consciousness wrote:
oldmanscene24 wrote:

I think a male companion could work. Especially if he was Kirk-esque and had to bag every female alien they ran across.

You mean like Captain Jack? :)

How the hell did I forget about him? I even watch Torchwood! See, I need some new Who! I'm tweakin' man!

I dare say this could be cool or rather better be cool. But since it is a short, it won't be.

Anyone reading The Forgotten comic series? The cover of number one was the coolest.

During the last season of the original series the writers were following this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartmel_Masterplan

Some pretty interesting stuff in there.

Tennant is no more. I will miss him.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertain...

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!!!!!

I love him. This is just terrible, terrible news. I can't figure these guys out. Eccelson after 1 season, Tenent after 3. And these aren't even seasons as long as US television seasons.

I thought Eccelston perfectly captured the frantic schizoid nature of The Doctor, and was upset with his leaving at the end of series one.

Then series two began and I soon came to realize how perfectly Tennant filled The Doctor's shoes.

However, as I will miss Tennant, I am not as upset with his leaving as I was with Eccelstons, as in the intervening three years I've come to realize that the people behind Doctor Who absolutely know what they are doing and I'm confidant that whomever they cast as the new Doctor will be just as good in the roll as the prior incarnations.

What does this do for the plot of the woman from The Library that recognized him then realized it was a younger him that hadn't met her? Are they going to make it some "she recognized his soul" balderdash?

I'll add my voice to those that were really sad to see Eccelston go but got very attached to Tennant.

One of the things that strikes me about the modern series is that it's got more sophisticated writing than in the past. I might not like all the new episodes, but they are definitely getting higher quality writers than they could afford for the old series. If the scripts stay good, there's a good chance the new doctor is successful. If they don't, no matter who they get the series is going to seem like crap.

Any suggestions for the role? I figure the role doesn't pay enough for a big star to be interested. Who is out there in the lesser ranks of British actors waiting for a promotion? What age range will they go with? In the past we've had a considerable age range for potential doctors.

LiquidMantis wrote:

What does this do for the plot of the woman from The Library that recognized him then realized it was a younger him that hadn't met her? Are they going to make it some "she recognized his soul" balderdash?

My guess is that she'll meet him in one of these specials, before he regenerates.

Can't say I'm surprised. As soon as his career started to branch after his success on DW, it was only a matter of time.

Hopefully they'll tie his departure from the show in with the Doctor's failed regeneration at the end of series 4. I was a bit annoyed by the way they handled that, it felt like bit of a cop-out.

So,

Funkenpants wrote:

I might not like all the new episodes, but they are definitely getting higher quality writers than they could afford for the old series.

You just made Douglas Adams sad, posthumously.

HaciendaSquish wrote:

You just made Douglas Adams sad, posthumously.

Looking at his involvement in Doctor Who on Wiki, he seems to be known primarily for one great story in the Tom Baker years. I must have seen it at some point, but it doesn't stand out in my mind. It was probably pretty good. Was the series' writing as consistently high quality and polished as it has been over the past few seasons during the earlier run of the doctor? I still say no.

Funkenpants wrote:

Any suggestions for the role? I figure the role doesn't pay enough for a big star to be interested. Who is out there in the lesser ranks of British actors waiting for a promotion? What age range will they go with? In the past we've had a considerable age range for potential doctors.

Chris Barrie?
Danny John-Jules?

Sorry, I'm just always hoping for something from the old Red Dwarf crew.

Funkenpants wrote:
HaciendaSquish wrote:

You just made Douglas Adams sad, posthumously.

Looking at his involvement in Doctor Who on Wiki, he seems to be known primarily for one great story in the Tom Baker years. I must have seen it at some point, but it doesn't stand out in my mind. It was probably pretty good. Was the series' writing as consistently high quality and polished as it has been over the past few seasons during the earlier run of the doctor? I still say no.

I honestly don't know. When I was small I learned that Douglas Adams had written for it, so I tried to watch a few episodes, but the bad video quality, combined with the thick accents, combined with my youthful inability to focus on one thing for more than five minutes made it a lost cause.

He only wrote, like, three episodes at the most.

HaciendaSquish wrote:

...the bad video quality, combined with the thick accents, combined with my youthful inability to focus on one thing for more than five minutes made it a lost cause.

If you get interested, check out the Tom Baker episodes on DVD. To me, he's kind of like Sean Connery is to Bond. I like the other guys who have played the doctor, but Tom Baker just seems to have defined the role.

Agree that the video quality and the special effects in the old shows are terrible. They just didn't have big budgets and the cheap CGI stuff we have now wasn't available. You have to fill in some aspects of the early shows with your imagination and be forgiving.

MikeSands wrote:
LiquidMantis wrote:

What does this do for the plot of the woman from The Library that recognized him then realized it was a younger him that hadn't met her? Are they going to make it some "she recognized his soul" balderdash?

My guess is that she'll meet him in one of these specials, before he regenerates.

It would be good if they tied this up a bit, but they don't really have to. We don't see everything that the Doctor does; we never did find out what he and Martha were chasing with a bow and arrow in "Blink" for example, and there are several references to places that he and his companion du jour went that we did not see.

bighoppa wrote:
Funkenpants wrote:

Any suggestions for the role? I figure the role doesn't pay enough for a big star to be interested. Who is out there in the lesser ranks of British actors waiting for a promotion? What age range will they go with? In the past we've had a considerable age range for potential doctors.

Chris Barrie?
Danny John-Jules?

Sorry, I'm just always hoping for something from the old Red Dwarf crew.

Unfortunately, the cast of Red Dwarf won't be available for Doctor Who as they'll be too busy making...

RED DWARF.

Huzzah!

I'm sad to see Tennant go, but I do understand his reasoning for leaving. He was probably my 2nd favorite Doctor only behind Tom Baker.

It will be interesting to see who becomes the next Doctor.

A quick hit of info. Here's a BBC article speculating on the potential actors to play the next Doctor. Two of the potentials were in Jekyll, a six episode series written by Stephen Moffat. If you liked any of Moffat's Dr. Who eps, you may find Jekyll worth your time during this lull in TARDIS travel.

For those looking for good writing on the old series, you want to keep an eye out for Robert Holmes. He was script editor during the best era of the show, created the Autons and Sontarans, and his credits include, among others, The Talons of Weng-Chiang, The Caves of Androzani, The Pyramids of Mars, and The Ark in Space.

I actually preferred Eccleston's Doctor to Tennant's, but they both have left some very big shoes to fill. I am very much looking forward to seeing what Moffat does with an entirely new TARDIS crew.

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consciousness wrote:

A quick hit of info. Here's a BBC article speculating on the potential actors to play the next Doctor.

Some really good, and radically different, options there. Rumors are that a "black" Doctor is next...prompting internet wags to speculate about Mos Def as a possibility.

I have no preference. It always seems to work out.

I would support Mos Def as the next doctor.

Though I enjoy Mos Def in the roles he's been in (Equilibrium springs instantly to mind as well as HHGTTG and Be Kind Rewind) I can't seem him as the Doctor. Any of the actors listed in the article would be good. The problem with using a well known actor is you get what we got with Eccleston - one season (if that) and out. I would prefer they find someone who will be there for five or more if possible. Granted, Tennant said that at the beginning and look what happened to him. I guess I'm just getting nervous because the Doc is getting dangerously close to that 12th regeneration. I know the Master has had like 14 now, but the Doctor is not The Master. Also remember that once the Doc hits #12 we get the Valeyard incarnation from the Colin Baker years where he supposed goes evil and tries to start stealing regenerations from himself.

bighoppa wrote:

Though I enjoy Mos Def in the roles he's been in (Equilibrium springs instantly to mind

You're thinking of Taye Diggs.

Unfortunately, when I think of Mos Def, I usually think of 16 Blocks.