Fable 2 catch all

LobsterMobster wrote:
Thirteenth wrote:

Pregnancy, don't forget about pregnancy, or did they take that out?

I think PM mentioned at one point he was thinking about taking it out/glossing it over to avoid a media sh*tstorm. Dunno what ever came of that.

Why would there be a problem with it? Wasn't there pregnancy in one of the many Sims expansions? Or even part of Sims 2?

All we need is Mr Molyneaux posting in the "Finished any games lately?" thread... he'd give it new meaning...

nsmike wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
Thirteenth wrote:

Pregnancy, don't forget about pregnancy, or did they take that out?

I think PM mentioned at one point he was thinking about taking it out/glossing it over to avoid a media sh*tstorm. Dunno what ever came of that.

Why would there be a problem with it? Wasn't there pregnancy in one of the many Sims expansions? Or even part of Sims 2?

Yeah, but unless there's a Sims expansion of which I am unaware, there's no way for your Sim to pick a fight and get stomped into the pavement. Mr. Molyneaux feels that the image of a pregnant woman getting beaten up might offend some people. They might leave it in, they might do a fade to black for 9 months of game time, or my favorite, they might make you unable to equip boots and lock you in a little house where you have the choice between the Create Pie command and the Create Sandwich command.

LobsterMobster wrote:

...or my favorite, they might make you unable to equip boots and lock you in a little house where you have the choice between the Create Pie command and the Create Sandwich command.

What, they aren't going to include the "Create an anchovie vanilla sundae" option. How will I make it through virtual pregnancy. Don't they know a person has needs?!

This conversation about removing pregnancy because depending on the pc actions /npc interactions, it could send a bad message or be spun badly in the media, reminds me of my surprise when I fired up Sacred: Underworld recently. My impression is that many devs do not include virtual kids running around their little virtual villages because for example, they dont want pc's to have the ability to attack them. I think they were removed from Arcanum and ToEE for this reason. So I was surprised as I ran my Sacred character through a virtual town and was chased by 3 or 4 little virtual kids who said very kid-like things to each other, while also calling out to the adventurer too. It was funny and definitely added to the game environment.

Yep, or in Fallout you could blow kids away and get the Child Killer reputation for it... even if you were playing the German version where they "fixed" the problem by making the kids invisible (they still said stuff from time to time too, kinda creepy).

I'm hoping Molyneaux has enough integrity to say to hell with overreacting media douchebags claiming Fable 2 is a simulator that rewards our children for stabbing pregnant women in the belly but who knows?

LobsterMobster wrote:
nsmike wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
Thirteenth wrote:

Pregnancy, don't forget about pregnancy, or did they take that out?

I think PM mentioned at one point he was thinking about taking it out/glossing it over to avoid a media sh*tstorm. Dunno what ever came of that.

Why would there be a problem with it? Wasn't there pregnancy in one of the many Sims expansions? Or even part of Sims 2?

Yeah, but unless there's a Sims expansion of which I am unaware, there's no way for your Sim to pick a fight and get stomped into the pavement. Mr. Molyneaux feels that the image of a pregnant woman getting beaten up might offend some people. They might leave it in, they might do a fade to black for 9 months of game time, or my favorite, they might make you unable to equip boots and lock you in a little house where you have the choice between the Create Pie command and the Create Sandwich command.

Well In the E3 video it did show that Peter's Character had a kid, So it's definitely possible that pregnancy is still in at least in some form.

I don't think he'd take out having kids entirely.

Anyone remember when he put having kids as "extra lives" early in fables 2 production -- you'd bascially pick up the game as the son ro daughter if you died? And surprise, surprise, players just ended up reproducing on a ridiculous level. Ah, that makes me smile.

Cramps wrote:

Anyone remember when he put having kids as "extra lives" early in fables 2 production -- you'd bascially pick up the game as the son ro daughter if you died? And surprise, surprise, players just ended up reproducing on a ridiculous level. Ah, that makes me smile. :)

It'd be awesome if you heard the Super Mario Bros. 1-Up sound whenever you conceived.

LobsterMobster wrote:
Cramps wrote:

Anyone remember when he put having kids as "extra lives" early in fables 2 production -- you'd bascially pick up the game as the son ro daughter if you died? And surprise, surprise, players just ended up reproducing on a ridiculous level. Ah, that makes me smile. :)

It'd be awesome if you heard the Super Mario Bros. 1-Up sound whenever you conceived.

That would be awesome in real life.

nsmike wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
Cramps wrote:

Anyone remember when he put having kids as "extra lives" early in fables 2 production -- you'd bascially pick up the game as the son ro daughter if you died? And surprise, surprise, players just ended up reproducing on a ridiculous level. Ah, that makes me smile. :)

It'd be awesome if you heard the Super Mario Bros. 1-Up sound whenever you conceived.

That would be awesome in real life.

"Don't worry son, when I die, instead of going away like fido, they'll scoop out your brain and put mine in your body! I woun't be going anywhere. See, everybody wins!"

Cramps wrote:
nsmike wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
Cramps wrote:

Anyone remember when he put having kids as "extra lives" early in fables 2 production -- you'd bascially pick up the game as the son ro daughter if you died? And surprise, surprise, players just ended up reproducing on a ridiculous level. Ah, that makes me smile. :)

It'd be awesome if you heard the Super Mario Bros. 1-Up sound whenever you conceived.

That would be awesome in real life.

"Don't worry son, when I die, instead of going away like fido, they'll scoop out your brain and put mine in your body! I woun't be going anywhere. See, everybody wins!"

HA! Actually, I was referring to the 1up sound during conception, not the use of your children as hosts for your aging brain post-mortem.

nsmike wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
Cramps wrote:

Anyone remember when he put having kids as "extra lives" early in fables 2 production -- you'd bascially pick up the game as the son ro daughter if you died? And surprise, surprise, players just ended up reproducing on a ridiculous level. Ah, that makes me smile. :)

It'd be awesome if you heard the Super Mario Bros. 1-Up sound whenever you conceived.

That would be awesome in real life.

Aw Man! Now all I can think of is the music from when Mario gets the invulnerability star.

LobsterMobster wrote:

It'd be awesome if you heard the Super Mario Bros. 1-Up sound whenever you conceived.

Yes, a thousand times yes. No more panicked phone calls! You could just say "Baby, did you hear the 1-up sound this month? No? Then we're clear."

doubtingthomas396 wrote:
nsmike wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
Cramps wrote:

Anyone remember when he put having kids as "extra lives" early in fables 2 production -- you'd bascially pick up the game as the son ro daughter if you died? And surprise, surprise, players just ended up reproducing on a ridiculous level. Ah, that makes me smile. :)

It'd be awesome if you heard the Super Mario Bros. 1-Up sound whenever you conceived.

That would be awesome in real life.

Aw Man! Now all I can think of is the music from when Mario gets the invulnerability star.

Yeah, that's for when you're wacked out on meth.

Pub Game cards are already being given out for pre-orders. The actual pub games won't be out till next week, but the codes to download them for free (as opposed to 800 points) are ready at most gamestops as of now.

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LobsterMobster wrote:

My impression is that many devs do not include virtual kids running around their little virtual villages because for example, they dont want pc's to have the ability to attack them.

Hey, I think that would add a sense of virtual realism to the game. My neighbor's kid is the spawn or satan or something, who the other day ran right up to me and kicked me in the shin. The temptation to drop kick him into the lake was tremendous, unfortunately the right to defend one's life, liberty, and property does not extend to defending it from people under 4 feet tall. It's only a matter of time before he tries egging my house or launching bottle rockets in my direction, and what am I to do? Monsters come in all sizes, I propose that slaying monsters regardless of size or age is a righteous endeavor.

Moral of the story is next time I'm calling the cops, that kid is going to grow up to be a serial killer or something. Also, I should be allowed to attack bastard kids in games so I have an escapist release from the desire to do it in movie theatres, airplanes, and restaurants.

Release days out:

Oct. 21st

Did I read that link correctly? Did it say there were bonus dungeons available only to pre-order collector's edition?

Grenn wrote:

Did I read that link correctly? Did it say there were bonus dungeons available only to pre-order collector's edition?

That what it sounds like, but I need a second resource to verify that. It could just be odd wording. Maybe the dungeons are avaible
as DLC, and its just included in the CE without the extra step.

"The Wreckager" is a goofy name for a sword.

Noice, picked up my pre-order card after work. I have to stop using the gamestop in Rockefeller center, it's run by idiots and designed to just be a tourist trap . . .

HA! Actually, I was referring to the 1up sound during conception, not the use of your children as hosts for your aging brain post-mortem.

Boy, that's a sentence you just don't hear (or read, for that matter) often enough.

First 3 hours of Fable 2 on IGN

Sounds very neat. I'm leaning towards a definite purchase barring any scathing reviews. Two items that stood out for me though:

1. You can buy a bar in a town and give away free beer. Everyone in the town will be drunk and love you.

2. Molyneux said that the "exploit" in the Fable 2 pub game was no accident and that players who used it will be in for a surprise when they load up Fable 2.

2. Molyneux said that the "exploit" in the Fable 2 pub game was no accident and that players who used it will be in for a surprise when they load up Fable 2.

Oops.

Oh well, I like surprises. Honestly, I was a little disappointed to know that I wouldn't be having debt collectors coming after me, you know?

Dr._J wrote:

2. Molyneux said that the "exploit" in the Fable 2 pub game was no accident

Yeah, BS.

Dr._J wrote:

and that players who used it will be in for a surprise when they load up Fable 2.

Cool.

While I'm really psyched for Fable 2 I'm getting worried about how much Molyneaux has been talking about its problems. Like he's getting us ready for it to suck or something.

LobsterMobster wrote:
2. Molyneux said that the "exploit" in the Fable 2 pub game was no accident

Yeah, BS.

I'm thinking the same thing. Still, it is cool that they are doing something about it.

LobsterMobster wrote:
Dr._J wrote:

2. Molyneux said that the "exploit" in the Fable 2 pub game was no accident

Yeah, BS.

Dr._J wrote:

and that players who used it will be in for a surprise when they load up Fable 2.

Cool. :)

Well, hold on now... Has the game gone gold yet? If so, was it before the release of the Pub games? If so, then either the exploit WAS deliberate... either that, or it was discovered in-house and the "surprise" was added as another aspect of the game, rather than patch out the exploit.

I think I'm going to stop by Gamestop/EB to pre-order this on my way home this evening. I'll have to examine the CE box while I'm there.