Some of you may know I've been having big problems in TF2 lately with choppiness and artifacts.
I installed Speedfan and found that my video card temp is high. 63C. Supposedly that's the core temp. Ambient isn't coming in.
CPU Cores are at 24C.
HD is at 41C.
ACPI(whatever that is) is 43C.
So, it seems my video card is way too hot.
The wife's laptop just ate it 2 weeks ago. Video card went kersplat. She still doesn't have an acceptable replacement, but at least she can boot up and see her monitor now.
So, what do I do? How do I make things cooler in this laptop? It seems to be the video card that's worst off. I think the other stuff isn't *too* hot, just the Video.
Inspiron 9400(the 17" laptop) with nVidia 7900GS if that helps.
63 is about normal. When you get close to 80, then worry.
That's not hot. That's not even warm. Some Google searching suggests that the chip's throttle temperature is 101-102 Celsius.
Here, we see people overclocking the 7900 GS in your very laptop (as well as the E1705), running in a normal operating range of anywhere from 60-80 Celsius just fine.
Anything below 80 is completely normal. Now, the GPU itself may be dying, which could lead to your artifacts, but it's not because it's running "too hot".
That said, if you're talking about 60 Celsius as a purely idle temperature, then maybe it's hitting some high temps at load. If so, first thing to do is crack that case open and blow all of the dust out of the fan vents and heat sinks. I did that with my Inspiron 6000 when my CPU temperature was getting too high, and it plummeted over 20 degrees Celsius after that.
First response: So?
Second thought: Legion already went farther than I would have ^^^
The artifacts could be bad ram, or a previously damaged/failing GPU. I've had quite a run of dying 7900 GT desktop cards lately. Things like covering an active video overlay with green equals signs, or another had a flickering hot pink line.
Strangely, I don't generally see the artifacts in HL2. I haven't fired up portal in forever, but I'm only seeing choppiness and artifacts in TF2.
I guess I'll see if I can find a good HowTo on opening this damn thing up.
Our video errors were in edit bays, and generally only showed up in the active window of our NLE. When you switched windows the problem moved, but only in the NLE, not in any other programs.
Nothing short of changing video cards fixed it.
63 is pretty good, I would say too good to be the upper limit of what the card hits under load, especially in a laptop. What was the machine doing when you got that reading?
Good cleaning never hurt nobody btw....here is a link to the service manual.
I'll echo the rest. I have a 7900GS in my laptop and it hits the high 80's under load. No artifacting or heat related issues that I've ever seen.
And actually I think we even have the same laptop, maybe a year seperated? I have the E1705, which is just a 9400 with a new name if I remember correctly.
My video card (8800GTX-KO) hovers anywhere between 59C and 80C (if I forget to set it to manual and turn up the fan after startup because nvidia sucks.)
You can adjust your fan settings in the Bios.
Dude, when I was playing TF2 on my thinkpad the 7900 in it went up to 90.
Im with the other sowhats. My card sits just under 60 24/7 and I haven't turned my machine off for more than a reboot in 6 months or so.
I'll try to remember to tab out of TF2 next time I see an artifact and get a reading.
Use RivaTuner to get GPU temperature readings while in-game. Here's a guide, check out the Hardware Monitoring setup part.
RivaTuner is a bit involved to set up, but if you own an NVIDIA card, it's extremely useful.
Im with the other sowhats. My card sits just under 60 24/7 and I haven't turned my machine off for more than a reboot in 6 months or so.
You are a crazy person rabbit. My power bill will not allow me to keep mine running in such a manner. Do you read by light of a 300W halogen flood-lamp?
rabbit wrote:Im with the other sowhats. My card sits just under 60 24/7 and I haven't turned my machine off for more than a reboot in 6 months or so.
You are a crazy person rabbit. My power bill will not allow me to keep mine running in such a manner. Do you read by light of a 300W halogen flood-lamp?
I run my lappy and my 750w PSU for my desktop continuously basically. Then again, I'm in college and have an all bills paid room.
Its really easy to re-download.
I would suggest that, and driver updates at this point.
Looking at some of the support results from Valve, I too would vote reinstall. It's easy, just takes a while.
You might try uninstalling the drivers and running something like Driver Cleaner. We've had a couple of folks lately with problems like yours that cleaning out old drivers took care of.
Any chance you have some examples (screenshots) of the artifacts?
Re-install sounds like a great idea, but looking at the output you pasted I'm wondering if our definition of "artifact" should be in question here. Wild ass guess, but I think results of the issues listed would look more like missing textures.
Hmmm... 167.51 is the latest driver they have for Go/M cards.
169.21 is the latest for other 7 series cards.I wonder what would happen if I installed the non-Go/M drivers?
A tear in the fabric of reality, which will expand and consume the universe over the course of the next hours.
Oddly, the older version has been updated more recently.
If I remember, it just won't take that driver. Female Doggoes about not having appropriate hardware or something like that.
I wont say that isn't an artifact (fits the definition afaik), but the ones Ive gotten from hot cards are no where near that....tame.
Did you get a chance to re-install yet?
My 3850 AGP is 45C idle, but I am sure it climbes to the 60s during 3D operation. In general I found that the best defense against an overheating peripheral lies in vacuuming the dust out of their fan and heatsinks. A small car vacuumer can provide very powerful suction and it works well for me.
My 3850 AGP is 45C idle, but I am sure it climbes to the 60s during 3D operation. In general I found that the best defense against an overheating peripheral lies in vacuuming the dust out of their fan and heatsinks. A small car vacuumer can provide very powerful suction and it works well for me.
I'm more of a blow guy myself. Vacuums can generate significant static charges. (which is why you use a little car one, I know)
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