Star Trek 2009 movie Catch-All (Now on DVD/Blu-Ray and sequel rumors)

dhelor wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Karl Urban is Dr. McCoy.

Damn. I was so hoping for Gary Sinise. Well, guess I won't be seeing this one either.

Isn't Gary Sinise like 55? I realize Bones was the oldest crew member, and Gary Sinise has the perfect voice and mannerisms, but he's just too old to play a younger Dr. McKoy.

Here's an article showing side by side comparisons of the different cast members.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/10/18/...

LockAndLoad wrote:

Here's an article showing side by side comparisons of the different cast members.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/10/18/...

The comparison shot for Checkov is striking: the actor they selected really could pass for a younger Walter Koenig.

Simon Pegg looks the part of Scotty.

In the photoshopped picture Pine looks like a handicapped 12 year old.

A Romulan villain, eh? Let's just hope we don't end up with another Nemesis on our hands.

*shudder*

Latest rumors are suggesting that Josh Lucas is up for the role of Captain Christopher Pike, Kirk's predecessor on the Enterprise and Spock's first commanding officer. This further jives with earlier rumors (SPOILERS) that Pike's part in the film will be substantial and perhaps warrant a known quantity in the role.

Gameraotaku wrote:
dhelor wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Karl Urban is Dr. McCoy.

Damn. I was so hoping for Gary Sinise. Well, guess I won't be seeing this one either.

Isn't Gary Sinise like 55?

No! He's only 52. But so what? Hollywood's constantly hiring people in their late twenties to play teenagers. A little makeup and digital manipulation is all it would take, if that.

Thirteen Days' Bruce Greenwood signed to play Captain Christopher Pike.

"I decide when this Federation goes to wah!"

Winona Ryder is Lady Amanda Grayson, wife of Sarek and mother of Spock. Damn, she looks good for her age.

Edit: And rumor has it that Jennifer Morrison of House and C&C3 fame was spotted on set the other day.

No sooner do I post it than we get confirmation that Jennifer Morrison is in the film, possibly as Kirk's former flame and mother to the son killed by those Klingon bastards, Carol Marcus. Also, the movie now has a Sarek. Given this actor's age plus Winona Ryder playing Amanda, logic suggests there'll be a flash-back scene to Spock's troubled youth on Vulcan. Let's just hope the little Vulcans aren't all running around dressed like this.

Edit: Goddamnit! Make up your goddamn minds!

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Plot details (Potential SPOILERS) start to emerge involving a nod to a very famous original series episode and the writer (kind of) of said episode, Harlan Ellison, is none too pleased about it. He may have a point except for the fact that elements from that episode have cropped up over the years in Trek comics and books without him getting miffed about it. And judging by the YouTube clip at the bottom of the article, he'll nickel and dime you for all you're worth.

Harlan Ellison

That is one angry dude... I've read about the various tirades he's thrown over the years but I've never seen video of him in action. Depending on who owns the material, and I'm pretty sure Paramount would have locked that deal up decades ago, he's probably in the wrong about what's owed to him since its a derivative work. He was paid for his original work and I don't think the royalties extend like that past the scope of the original.

I'm actually sad that I've seen that clip now. I'm a huge fan of his written work but seeing such a mean-spirited rant from him really puts his character in a bad light.

First spy photos of Zachary Quinto as Spock. Now that's some good casting there.

Rat Boy wrote:

First spy photos of Zachary Quinto as Spock. Now that's some good casting there.

Wow! He looks great! A couple of those (side shots especially) he looks EXACTLY like Nimoy. Oh man I hope he can act like him!

Problem is that he keeps cutting open the heads of his rivals and eating their brains.

And his voice will never be deep enough. Nimoy moved mountains when he said "Captain." But the went back to their original place when he said "illogical."

LockAndLoad wrote:
Harlan Ellison

Depending on who owns the material, and I'm pretty sure Paramount would have locked that deal up decades ago,

Harlan mentioned in the blog post quoted on that page that by the Separation of Rights clause of the Writers Guild's Minimum Basic Agreement, he has retained the rights to all his non-Star Trek character work on that episode. Thus, he is the one who holds the rights on the material.

he's probably in the wrong about what's owed to him since its a derivative work. He was paid for his original work and I don't think the royalties extend like that past the scope of the original.

In many other forms of writing, you do get paid whenever your original work is reused after the original publishing (as long as you retain the rights, which Harlan has). But I think his argument is that they would be violating his copyright by re-using his creations without his explicit permission - permission he would have granted, had they been willing to pay him. And with that, he'd have a very solid case in court.

As a writer myself, I don't see why anyone should expect us to let someone use our copyrighted work for free (unless it were specifically part of the original agreement). There are a lot of naive or desperate writers out there who are willing to let people use/reuse their work without compensation (in the name of "publicity", which, unless you're just starting out, is worthless), and as Harlan said, some of the less scrupulous decision makers will try to use that to their advantage. (I imagine there are many "less scrupulous decision makers" in Hollywood.) It does make it harder for the writers with a more professional outlook, who view writing as a business and not a charity. His vitriol aside, I 100% agree with Harlan here. (And, btw, the writers currently on strike, who I am following with keen interest.)

As "cranky old man" as he comes across in that video, I have to agree Harlan seems to make some good points. He ought to be paid if the movie is re-using his plot devices.

And after reading (most of) the comments on the page, I actually find myself loving the idea of re-using the Guardian of Forever. It opens up a lot of cool possibilities, and I'm not one to examine time-travel plots too closely, if the stories are entertaining. Hopefully this will be entertaining.

It'd be nice to see Q in a Star Trek film.

Uberstein wrote:

As "cranky old man" as he comes across in that video, I have to agree Harlan seems to make some good points. He ought to be paid if the movie is re-using his plot devices.

And after reading (most of) the comments on the page, I actually find myself loving the idea of re-using the Guardian of Forever. It opens up a lot of cool possibilities, and I'm not one to examine time-travel plots too closely, if the stories are entertaining. Hopefully this will be entertaining.

Yeah, for as many points as he brings up, he does come across as an awful messenger. By all accounts, if you get on Harlan's bad side, you better watch out. The story goes that the script for "City on the Edge of Forever" was up for the WGA award for 1967, but it was a revised version of his script and not the rewritten one that was used for filming. He won, went on stage, and berated the producers of the show (who were in the audience to show their support for him) for how he felt they had treated him and his script, which he held up and loudly proclaimed, "Don't ever let THEM rewrite you!" Naturally, the writer-dominated audience went into uproarious applause while Herb Solow, Trek's executive producer, glanced down at his place setting and debated which knife he was going to use to stab Harlan to death (he settled on the butterknife, since it'd be slower and more painful). Gene Roddenberry, meanwhile, laughed it off and said, "So what else is new?"

I know it's not gonna happen (Shatner has denied involvement in the reboot repeatedly) but I think it'd be fun to have Kirk somehow restored to life by Spock's doings in the past. Perhaps he'd be waiting at the GoF when Spock returns.
"The needs of the many indeed, old friend."

I'm know many will think it's a lame idea, but I'd like it. I was never a fan of the way Kirk died on Veridian III in Generations.

Jennifer Morrison as Number One?

Or perhaps as Kirk's mommy? Yeesh, I've never seen so much fussing over a movie before in my life.

Whether he's right or not, there's not a single person on this earth I think I care less to hear rant about stuff than Ellison. The guy's insufferable.

Heh, no argument there Matt. The man is a pompous arse.

SommerMatt wrote:

Whether he's right or not, there's not a single person on this earth I think I care less to hear rant about stuff than Ellison. The guy's insufferable.

No argument from this quarter.

Rat Boy wrote:

Or perhaps as Kirk's mommy? Yeesh, I've never seen so much fussing over a movie before in my life.

There is no force of geek-dom cult nation greater than the Trekkie. More so than Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. Trekkies bring scary cult stalker fandom to it's own level. So I have no surprise at all that the internet exploded with rumors, blogs, gossip and rants all based around the new Star Trek movie. I wouldn't be surprised if it got even worse.

kilroy0097 wrote:

There is no force of geek-dom cult nation greater than the Trekkie. More so than Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. Trekkies bring scary cult stalker fandom to it's own level. So I have no surprise at all that the internet exploded with rumors, blogs, gossip and rants all based around the new Star Trek movie. I wouldn't be surprised if it got even worse.

I think there's a radical group of Firefly/Joss Whedon fanatics that trump any other group of fans for outright scariness.

On the Star Trek line of thought and related to media entertainment but nothing to do with the movie itself.
Check out this cool Next Generation Star Trek Home Theater Room

There have been a few others but this one looks the best in my opinion.

There's just some damn good casting for this movie. Too good, methinks.