9/11 Mastermind Confesses

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Republicans: See, Guantanamo works!

Democrats: It was coerced!

the man himself: I hope the prosecutors stand to their end of the plea bargain!

Great timing. Alberto who?

Maybe I'm a skeptic, but considering that he had actually already confessed years ago, as detailed in the 9/11 Commission report, why are we hearing that he confessed again? I wonder if there's any bad news that they are trying to get off the front page, something about US attorneys...

*edit* doh! jayhawker beat me to it

I wonder if we can get him to confess to the Lincoln assassination too.

Paleocon wrote:

I wonder if we can get him to confess to the Lincoln assassination too.

I'm sure if they keep beating him enough he will.

Word is, the first stuff they got from him under torture - waterboarding, etc - was useless, made up confabulations. The strategy that worked was the psychological gain-the-trust one that is so often used as a counter-example to torture. Again, according to anonymous CIA types that pop up occasionally in the news.

So is trotting out "confessions" the new "terror alert meter?"

baggachipz wrote:

So is trotting out "confessions" the new "terror alert meter?"

It appears so. I wonder if we can color code the confessions somehow.

Apparently Al-Qaeda hates Latinos, too... he mentioned a plot against Plaza Bank in Seattle. The Space Needle, Pike Place Market, B of A tower I could see... but Plaza Bank? What did they do, throw a dart at the phone book?

Paleocon wrote:

I wonder if we can get him to confess to the Lincoln assassination too.

No, but he did confess to a lot of other things:

1. I was responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center Operation

2. I was responsible for the 9/11 Operation, from A to Z.

3. I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, [Wall Street Journal reporter] Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan. For those who would like to confirm, there are pictures of me on the Internet holding his head.

4. I was responsible for the Shoe Bomber Operation to down two American airplanes.

5. I was responsible for the Filka Island operation in Kuwait that killed two American soldiers.

6. I was responsible for the bombing of a nightclub in Bali, Indonesia, which was frequented by British and American nationals.

7. I was responsible for planning, training, surveying, and financing the New (or Second) Wave attacks against the following skyscrapers after 9/11:
a. Library Tower, California.
b. Sears Tower, Chicago,
c. Plaza Bank, Washington state.
d. The Empire State Building, New York City.

8. I was responsible for planning, financing, & follow-up of Operations to destroy American military vessels and oil tankers in the Straights of Hormuz, and Straights of Gibralter, and the Port of Singapore.

9. I was responsible for planning, training, surveying, and financing for the Operation to bomb and destroy the Panama Canal.

10. I was responsible for surveying and financing for the assassination of several former American Presidents, including President Carter.

11. I was responsible for surveying, planning, and financing for the bombing of suspension bridges in New York.

12. I was responsible for planning to destroy the Sears Tower by burning a few fuel or oil tanker trucks beneath it or around it.

13. I was responsible for planning, surveying, and financing for the operation to destroy Heathrow Airport, the Canary Wharf Building, and Big Ben on British soil.

14. I was responsible for planning, surveying, and financing for the destruction of many night clubs frequented by American and British citizens on Thailand soil.

15. I was responsible for surveying and financing for the destruction of the New York Stock Exchange and other financial targets after 9/11.

16. I was responsible for planning, financing, and surveying for the destruction of buildings in the Israeli city of Elat by using airplanes leaving from Saudi Arabia.

17. I was responsible for planning, surveying, and financing for the destruction of American embassies in Indonesia, Australia, and Japan.

18. I was responsible for surveying and financing for the destruction of the Israeli embassy in India, Azerbaijan, the Philippines, and Australia.

19. I was responsible for surveying and financing for the destruction of an Israeli 'El-Al' Airlines flight on Thailand soil departing from Bangkok Airport.

20. I was responsible for sending several Mujahadeen into Israel to conduct surveillance to hit several strategic targets deep in Israel.

21. I was responsible for the bombing of the hotel in Mombasa that is frequented by Jewish travelers via El-Al airlines.

22. I was responsible for launching a Russian-made SA-7 surface-to-air missile on El-Al or other Jewish airliner departing from Mombasa.

23. I was responsible for planning and surveying to hit American targets in South Korea, such as American military bases and a few night clubs frequented by American soldiers.

24. I was responsible for financial, excuse me, I was responsible for providing financial support to hit American, Jewish, and British targets in Turkey.

25. I was responsible for surveillance needed to hit nuclear power plants that generate electricity in several U.S. states.

26. I was responsible for planning, surveying, and financing to hit NATO Headquarters in Europe.

27. I was responsible for the planning and surveying needed to execute the Bojinka Operation, which was designed to down twelve American airplanes full of passengers. I personally monitored a found-trip, Manila-to-Seoul, Pan Am flight.

28. I was responsible for the assassination attempt against President Clinton during his visit to the Philippines in 1994 or 1995. . . .

29. I shared responsibility for the assassination attempt against Pope John Paul the second while he was visiting the Philippines.

30. I was responsible for the training and financing for the assassination of Pakistan's President Musharraf.

31. I was responsible for the attempt to destroy an American oil company owned by the Jewish former Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, on the Island of Sumatra, Indonesia.

32. I was the one who canceled Star Trek.
33. I am Sparticus

WTF? Apparently, it's this guy and Bin Laden, a metric ass load of cash, and a bunch of ninnies who are against us. Problem one solved. Now, for Bin Laden and the ninnies... Unfortunately, they're still not in Iraq. Discuss.

Interesting that a guy can be held by the US government, confess to a laundry list of crimes, and not be held responsible in a court of law for his actions. In four years, he's not been tried.

34. I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll.
Interesting that a guy can be held by the US government, confess to a laundry list of crimes, and not be held responsible in a court of law for his actions. In four years, he's not been tried.

The hearing he was given was an "Article 5" hearing, conducted by a military tribunal, to review whether someone captured on the battlefield is in fact an enemy combatant. Presumably the tribunal will find that he is indeed an enemy combatant, since he expressly acknowledged as much during the hearing. This means that he can be detained for the duration of al Qaeda's conflict with the U.S.

Though I wouldn't be surprised to see him tried for war crimes.

The hearing he was given was an "Article 5" hearing, conducted by a military tribunal, to review whether someone captured on the battlefield is in fact an enemy combatant. Presumably the tribunal will find that he is indeed an enemy combatant, since he expressly acknowledged as much during the hearing.

This is an extra-judicial process which assumes guilt and asks the person to demonstrate innocence without benefit of counsel, evidence against him or witnesses for his position. It also allows hearsay and evidence gathered under torture. While no one doubts KSM's guilt - these confessions are several years old and are not in any way news - nor that of the other 13 special prisoners, this system has held hundreds of people for years who have been deemed safe to release. For all the hype, the "enemy combatant" designation has not served us well, in my opinion. This stuff should all have stayed deep black; if the President had not wanted show captives to show his progress, we'd not have had all these questions floating around - and there'd be a lot more dead Al Quaeda guys.

KSM wrote:

35. Made Greedo shoot first.

36. I sabotaged Janet Jackson's bra.
36. I was responsible for the assassination attempt on the Zionist Iceberg using the HMS Titanic.
37. I was Rex Grossman's quarterback coach.
38. I made the Kitty Kat dance.
KSM wrote:

39. Cancer. Yes, all of it.

39. I engineered Sanjaya winning American Idol.
40. I posted "Poo comes out of Ass" on the Edmonton Journal website.
41. Killed Inigo Montoya's father.
41. I'm the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby.
Paleocon wrote:
39. I engineered Sanjaya winning American Idol.

Truly a despicable feat.

42. I'm #23.

This is the problem with using torture: any claim we make is fatally compromised.