Fallout 3 meets xbox 360?

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If it was anyone else besides Bethesda I would be a little worried about this. Anyways, The title speaks for itself, but here is the full story.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25330416

To be honest I'm a bit worried.
I know Im not the only FO zealot on here so any comments?

Considering how much money Bethesda has gotten from the console versions of Morrowind and Oblivion, you would have to be out of your god damned mind to think Fallout 3 would be PC exclusive.

They could make Fallout 3 for cell phones and I'd buy it.

Sinatar wrote:

Considering how much money Bethesda has gotten from the console versions of Morrowind and Oblivion, you would have to be out of your god damned mind to think Fallout 3 would be PC exclusive.

I really don't care if they make a FO3 360 version but why not port the PC version to the consoles. While I liked Oblivion I was hoping that fallout wouldn't be a hack n' slash game. From what I read, it sounds like Beth is hinting that it will be just that, TES: Fallout, with PC and console versions build together.

Kyreth wrote:

I really don't care if they make a FO3 360 version but why not port the PC version to the consoles. While I liked Oblivion I was hoping that fallout wouldn't be a hack n' slash game. From what I read, it sounds like Beth is hinting that it will be just that, TES: Fallout, with PC and console versions build together.

Which is exactly what I was expecting the moment Bethesda acquired the license. Bethesda is an alright developer, but they sure as hell don't have the chops to make a fallout game.

If Bethesda f*cks up Fallout 3 I'll be very very pissed. Fallout is not Elder Scrolls. Just give me a 3d isometric view point with turn-based combat set in a post-apocalyptic world where I have absolute moral freedom.

Vector wrote:

If Bethesda f*cks up Fallout 3 I'll be very very pissed. Fallout is not Elder Scrolls. Just give me a 3d isometric view point with turn-based combat set in a post-apocalyptic world where I have absolute moral freedom.

Good luck with that.

Sinatar wrote:
Vector wrote:

If Bethesda f*cks up Fallout 3 I'll be very very pissed. Fallout is not Elder Scrolls. Just give me a 3d isometric view point with turn-based combat set in a post-apocalyptic world where I have absolute moral freedom.

Good luck with that.

...I know :(. I'm expecting complete and utter disappointment. It doesn't help that I have had a very difficult time getting into other Bethesda games.

Simply remaking Fallout in todays market would be commercial suicide. It's foolish to believe that it would be a success outside a small hardcore market that even remembers Fallout. 3D Isometric turn based combat doesn't exactly scream next gen.

AT best hope for a good game....and thankfully you've got a good developer working on it.

Frankly, knowing that Bethesda would put Fallout on the 360 is why I bought one. Very early on Bethesda said the worst mistake it made on the original XBOX was publishing only one epic game on it. Shortly after they bought Fallout, they said they'd be fools not to have at least two epic games for this development cycle. To me that meant Fallout and I went out and got one the next month and played Oblivion like a fiend.

This could be bad, but I can't see another development company making the changes needed and still keeping true to the franchise. I just worry that the political climate will rule out things like drugs, morals, sex, killing children, things that made Fallout groundbreaking. I also worry about them including all these things, but in a very esoteric and nerdy way, or taking their D.C. setting and going all political on things and using their Democratic roots as a company to rip on Republicans.

It will not be isometric, but it may be turn based. It will dedfinitely be first person optional.

I don't even know what Fallout is. I suspect I will be beat now for that revelation.

If you like RPGs at all rockford, you owe it to yourself to go pick up the fallout games. You can probably find the two of them for $10 in a bargain bin somewhere or online.

SirRockford wrote:

I don't even know what Fallout is. I suspect I will be beat now for that revelation.

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The official story: Bethesda declined to comment on the interview, although Fallout 3 producer Ashley Cheng spoke highly of it in this blog. He also spoke of how he "hated" Fallout: BOS, indicating a 360 Fallout 3 would (hopefully) bear little resemblance to the PlayStation 2 and Xbox misfire.

This gives me a lot of hope.

Sorry guys. I just never played games on a PC. I have strictly been a console gamer, except for old adventure games like "Day of the Tentacle" and "Space Quest". I also dabbled in Everquest for a couple of months back in 1999.

Look, the article is nothing but speculation. Even so, I'd be honestly surprised if Bethesda didn't make an XBox version of Fallout 3, considering it uses the Oblivion engine, which already has an XBox port. What does that mean for the quality of Fallout 3? I don't know, but honestly I don't think it bodes well.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Look, the article is nothing but speculation. Even so, I'd be honestly surprised if Bethesda didn't make an XBox version of Fallout 3, considering it uses the Oblivion engine, which already has an XBox port. What does that mean for the quality of Fallout 3? I don't know, but honestly I don't think it bodes well.

?? Why was Oblivion a failure? I'm confused..

I'm completely content scavenging the wastes in an Oblivion-style world. What drew me to Fallout though was the writing, and it if is as bad as Oblivion's writing I'm going to be a little less happy about plunking down 70 bones.

TheGameguru wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

Look, the article is nothing but speculation. Even so, I'd be honestly surprised if Bethesda didn't make an XBox version of Fallout 3, considering it uses the Oblivion engine, which already has an XBox port. What does that mean for the quality of Fallout 3? I don't know, but honestly I don't think it bodes well.

?? Why was Oblivion a failure? I'm confused..

Wait, what? Who said Oblivion was a failure?

Quintin_Stone wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

Look, the article is nothing but speculation. Even so, I'd be honestly surprised if Bethesda didn't make an XBox version of Fallout 3, considering it uses the Oblivion engine, which already has an XBox port. What does that mean for the quality of Fallout 3? I don't know, but honestly I don't think it bodes well.

?? Why was Oblivion a failure? I'm confused..

Wait, what? Who said Oblivion was a failure?

I dont get what your saying then.. are you saying that Oblivion lacked quality and thus so will the 360 version of Fallout 3?? use small words.. and type slowly. I dont have a PHD.

The only thing that worries me about Bethesda's involvement with the Fallout franchise is that it might morph into a post-apocalyptic Elder Scrolls game. I don't want to see the various Fallout factions like the Brotherhood of Steel turned into a renamed variation of the Fighters Guild. I don't want gunfights to turn into the "shoot bow, sidestep to avoid incoming arrow/spell, rinse/wash/repeat" that you find in Oblivion and Morrowwind. I don't want the game's story to become less edgy because Microsoft's Standards & Practices Committee steps in and says a world of destroyed cities and feral, cannibal scavengers is unacceptable.

BUT, I'm willing to give the team at Bethesda a fair shake. From the early articles I read when they first acquired the license, they seemed to be genuinely focused on creating a true Fallout sequel. I just hope we don't have to wait two years for it to arrive.

LockAndLoad wrote:

The only thing that worries me about Bethesda's involvement with the Fallout franchise is that it might morph into a post-apocalyptic Elder Scrolls game. I don't want to see the various Fallout factions like the Brotherhood of Steel turned into a renamed variation of the Fighters Guild. I don't want gunfights to turn into the "shoot bow, sidestep to avoid incoming arrow/spell, rinse/wash/repeat" that you find in Oblivion and Morrowwind. I don't want the game's story to become less edgy because Microsoft's Standards & Practices Committee steps in and says a world of destroyed cities and feral, cannibal scavengers is unacceptable.

BUT, I'm willing to give the team at Bethesda a fair shake. From the early articles I read when they first acquired the license, they seemed to be genuinely focused on creating a true Fallout sequel. I just hope we don't have to wait two years for it to arrive.

given that so much time has past since Fallout 2 and more importantly so much technology has changed.. who really would you WANT to have develop Fallout 3? The original team is probably so fragmented at this point that in the end your basically looking at a completely new outside look and approach to an older franchise.

It would be sorta like reviving the Ultima franchise.. your basically going to start allover again since the original team(s) are so long gone..and technology has changed so much.

Thats the real danger with these sorta "remakes" our fond memory and more importantly the amount of time that has past makes it difficult for anyone to really do justice to the original games. I sorta feel sorry for Bethesda for even undertaking this.. because to me they're in a no win situation.

I might be in minority, but I have full faith in Bethesda to do a good job with Fallout... no matter what platform it is going to be released on. I mean, I'm happy for the simple fact that another Fallout is in the works!

TheGameguru wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

Look, the article is nothing but speculation. Even so, I'd be honestly surprised if Bethesda didn't make an XBox version of Fallout 3, considering it uses the Oblivion engine, which already has an XBox port. What does that mean for the quality of Fallout 3? I don't know, but honestly I don't think it bodes well.

?? Why was Oblivion a failure? I'm confused..

Wait, what? Who said Oblivion was a failure?

I dont get what your saying then.. are you saying that Oblivion lacked quality and thus so will the 360 version of Fallout 3?? use small words.. and type slowly. I dont have a PHD.

You weren't asking me, but it was painfully obvious playing the PC version of Oblivion that it had been written for the XBox first WRT the interface, unlike Morrowind. Even though I plan on picking up a 360 in the next month or so, I'd still rather have a PC-centric Fallout 3.

given that so much time has past since Fallout 2 and more importantly so much technology has changed.. who really would you WANT to have develop Fallout 3? The original team is probably so fragmented at this point that in the end your basically looking at a completely new outside look and approach to an older franchise.

Also, a number of the spin-off development houses with old Fallout developers went on to make some of the most buggy and incomplete games around. I'm looking at you, Obsidian and Troika. At least we know Bethesda can knock them out of the park. I would only have been happier if Bioware picked up the license.

Jadawin wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

Look, the article is nothing but speculation. Even so, I'd be honestly surprised if Bethesda didn't make an XBox version of Fallout 3, considering it uses the Oblivion engine, which already has an XBox port. What does that mean for the quality of Fallout 3? I don't know, but honestly I don't think it bodes well.

?? Why was Oblivion a failure? I'm confused..

Wait, what? Who said Oblivion was a failure?

I dont get what your saying then.. are you saying that Oblivion lacked quality and thus so will the 360 version of Fallout 3?? use small words.. and type slowly. I dont have a PHD.

You weren't asking me, but it was painfully obvious playing the PC version of Oblivion that it had been written for the XBox first WRT the interface, unlike Morrowind. Even though I plan on picking up a 360 in the next month or so, I'd still rather have a PC-centric Fallout 3.

what just because of the interface? It worked well I thought.. I never got frustrated on either platform. and certain the existence of the 360 version of Oblivion didn't "dumb" down the game or make it less complicated.. I cant imagine even the most die hard PC gamer looking at Oblivion and saying.. "yeah.. this game is shallow"

Certis wrote:

Also, a number of the spin-off development houses with old Fallout developers went on to make some of the most buggy and incomplete games around. I'm looking at you, Obsidian and Troika. At least we know Bethesda can knock them out of the park.

This almost made me spit my proverbial coke on my keyboard. Bethesda has historically, the worst Q&A on their games of any developer/publisher in the history of our hobby. They've released exactly 2 properly "finished" games in the form of Morrowind and Oblivion. Hell as a publisher, they are still awful. Just look at their recent handling of the Star Trek license for some examples.

I would only have been happier if Bioware picked up the license.

Fanboy's wet dream right there.

TheGameguru wrote:

I dont get what your saying then.. are you saying that Oblivion lacked quality and thus so will the 360 version of Fallout 3?? use small words.. and type slowly. I dont have a PHD.

In my opinion, when PC games are developed parallel to a console version (or heaven forbid, ported from a console version) the PC game suffers. Not everyone agrees, certainly. This is my perspective as a PC gamer.

Fallout and Oblivion are very different games. I enjoyed Oblivion and put quite a few hours into it. It's still a different beast and the changes that they'd have to make to the Oblivion engine in order to start approaching the Fallout experience seem to me even less likely when they're targetting the Xbox at the same time. Now I certainly don't expect them to just remake Fallout with the Oblivion engine, complete with locked third-person isometric, flat environment (most towns had only 1 level unless there was an underground bunker of some sort), and other limitations of its age. Still, I think it's now even more unlikely that Bethesda will incorporate a tactical turn-based combat mode with the aim at a console. And dammit, that's one of the things I loved about the Fallout games.

SirRockford wrote:

Sorry guys. I just never played games on a PC. I have strictly been a console gamer, except for old adventure games like "Day of the Tentacle" and "Space Quest". I also dabbled in Everquest for a couple of months back in 1999.

Boo-urns on Rocky. Go play these games!

Sinatar wrote:
Certis wrote:

Also, a number of the spin-off development houses with old Fallout developers went on to make some of the most buggy and incomplete games around. I'm looking at you, Obsidian and Troika. At least we know Bethesda can knock them out of the park.

This almost made me spit my proverbial coke on my keyboard. Bethesda has historically, the worst Q&A on their games of any developer/publisher in the history of our hobby. They've released exactly 2 properly "finished" games in the form of Morrowind and Oblivion. Hell as a publisher, they are still awful. Just look at their recent handling of the Star Trek license for some examples.

And Morrowind needed some pretty massive patches right away, didn't it?

I'm not willing to give them the 'worst Q&A' title ( I think sole ownership of that goes to Troika .. Arcanum, Bloodlines, and the Temple Elemental Evil ) , but I'm afraid for FO3. I'm not going to enjoy running FedEx missions in a world I can't teleport ( not that they were that fun in worlds I could teleport around in, like Morrowind).

I have slim hopes for this, quite honestly.

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