I guess us folks up in Canada would wait til winter. Zombies have no body heat, so they freeze solid, and we merrily ski along the streets beheading them with hockey sticks.
Problem solved!
No, that works for "The Blob", not Zombie Apocalypses. Most you can hope for with Zombies is a nuclear strike.
Raptorman's diaries show that the exposure to nuclear radiation actually speeds the zombies up.
I assumed that in Canada, they fight zombies by 'pelting them with timbits'. A few years ago Certis claimed that this is how they deal rabid mooseys.
I assumed that in Canada, they fight zombies by 'pelting them with timbits'. A few years ago Certis claimed that this is how they deal rabid mooseys.
It's either that or pelt them with the 40 pounds of change you have to carry around because they have no dollar bills.
I assumed that in Canada, they fight zombies by 'pelting them with timbits'. A few years ago Certis claimed that this is how they deal rabid mooseys.
Poor Tim....
Y'all might want to read a bit of it before buying. I only got a few pages into the Advance Reader copy before deciding it wasn't for me. Just my 0.02, but the writing wasn't great and the concept doesn't work well as a novel. It'll probably make a great movie, though.
I bought me a copy at B&N yesterday. Got about 1/4 into it and enjoying it immensely thus far.
The only shortcoming I have to pick: the zombies, as depicted, are attacking their victims' random body parts and seem to only be concerned with stuffing their mouths full of fleshy meat. The book is failing thus far to explain, or to altogether describe, the zombies propensity specifically towards the living tissue of the fresh, warm, delicious human brains.
I bought me a copy at B&N yesterday. Got about 1/4 into it and enjoying it immensely thus far.
The only shortcoming I have to pick: the zombies, as depicted, are attacking their victims' random body parts and seem to only be concerned with stuffing their mouths full of fleshy meat. The book is failing thus far to explain, or to altogether describe, the zombies propensity specifically towards the living tissue of the fresh, warm, delicious human brains.
Maybe they're saving the brain for the main - the rest is just finger food.
OK, it's been two weeks....any further reviews/comments? I just found out the book is by the SON of Mel Brooks......
OK, it's been two weeks....any further reviews/comments? I just found out the book is by the SON of Mel Brooks......
That's pretty much what sold me on it. I'm all in on both books.
While I'm a touch baffled by the debate on Zombies and all, I do agree with Paleo in that the bigger threat would be the breakdown in civil order and support needs.
I finished reading it a week or two ago. A solid 4-star title, in Amazon classification. The end is kind of too cheerful. There isn't quite a total societal breakdown, you see. Some of the story's movements are a deliberately calculated grotesque, which feels quite implausible. USA saves itself by adopting Bolshevik-style Military Communism. Cuba saves itself by adopting white-bread kind of capitalism. Who would have thought.
The Terry Goodkin thread got me thinking about the last good book I read and this was it. A friend bought it for me for christmas and i'm not really that into zombies so I waited probably two months before reading it. But the book is fantastic. Even if your not really into zombies the post apocalyptic themes are great. Also it's kind of funny reading this thread because many of the ideas you guys are debating are addressed in the book including a very detailed military vs. zombie scene that is pretty well thought out. All in all the best book i've read in quite a while.
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[color=#ffffff]My favorite scene from the book and probably the best zombie scene i've ever read/seen is the part with the heart surgeon who transplants a zombie heart into a patient only to have him come back to life and eat his face off. Brilliant![/color]
I read it recently as well and enjoyed it.
Read it last fall and enjoyed it very much; some of the subtleties of the living civilization post-war were thrown out there and too easily missed in the excitement (guy from SA townships being a clipper-ship captain; the switch to non-petroleum energy sources, etc.).
I confess that, any time I'm out on a drive now I look at the indefensible suburban developments and shudder.....
It's lying on the floor next to my bed. I plan to read it soon.
Ants fighting a larger animal. The larger animal will win initially but the ants will win in the end if the larger animal doesn't move away. In this humans can't move away. There is no location to move away to. The threat gets larger and larger and the casualties only add to the number. As if they are automatic reinforcements. The wave pushes and pushes and over time they will break down the wall. The only way to kill them is direct incineration. Nuclear attack only takes out everything within the blast area. Radiation does nothing and only hinders those who aren't already dead. Fuel air bombs probably more effective. Chemical and Biological attacks do nothing. Napalm and Flamethrowers the best convention weapons to use. Eventually with the world economy going to sh*t in a hand basket the military may run out of munitions and fuel and maybe even geography. The only solution might be to leave planet. It's a interesting concept and not really one that has been touched upon except in 28 Days Later in part.
I still say that it wouldn't take very long or very much for a modern military to deal with this kind of threat. A single AC130 would put a very quick end to a zombie army. A flight of B-52's with daisycutters could pretty much end half the zombie population.
Unless the zombies retain some innate human cunning (eg: know how to head for cover, avoid observation, attack only in coordinated fashion when numbers ensure victory) I see the problem being solved relatively quickly.
The problem would be solved quickly in our reality where we know about zombies already. In zombie fiction, the world always has to learn and seems to be slow on the uptake. Destroy the brain! Duh.
I still say that it wouldn't take very long or very much for a modern military to deal with this kind of threat. A single AC130 would put a very quick end to a zombie army. A flight of B-52's with daisycutters could pretty much end half the zombie population.
Unless the zombies retain some innate human cunning (eg: know how to head for cover, avoid observation, attack only in coordinated fashion when numbers ensure victory) I see the problem being solved relatively quickly.
Yeah, but if the military doesn't act like a bunch of arrogant {ableist slur}s there wouldn't be much of a story to tell.
If they do turn this into a film, they really need to make it a high-budget documentary, not a feature film. That's the only way to do it right.
Speaking of zombie fiction: check out the Walking Dead graphic novel series. Great stuff.
I assume that it will play out much like it did in Shaun of the Dead. After a brief period of chaos, order will be restored and the undead will be put to work doing menial labour.
Speaking of zombie fiction: check out the Walking Dead graphic novel series. Great stuff.
I actually have been picking up that comic since after the first graphic novel; I was too impatient to wait for further trade paperback releases. Great stuff!
I still say that it wouldn't take very long or very much for a modern military to deal with this kind of threat. A single AC130 would put a very quick end to a zombie army. A flight of B-52's with daisycutters could pretty much end half the zombie population.
Unless the zombies retain some innate human cunning (eg: know how to head for cover, avoid observation, attack only in coordinated fashion when numbers ensure victory) I see the problem being solved relatively quickly.
The problem would be solved quickly in our reality where we know about zombies already. In zombie fiction, the world always has to learn and seems to be slow on the uptake. Destroy the brain! Duh.
I think you're both wrong. In the Z-verse, they did not have George Romero movies? Even WWZ references the Zombie Handbook.
Our human scaffolding would break down, especially if there were no Black Ops Units expecting this very threat. Our real society could not even protect us against a flu pandemic, never mind the dead walking the earth.
But at least, look at the bright side, if a zombie apocalypse ever did come- unless you're extremely unlucky, you have possess more knowledge than 98% of Earth's population does about the subject. )
Even WWZ references the Zombie Handbook.
That's because its the same author. He's advertising his other book! (err, unless you aren't referring to the Survival Guide)
Zombie double post.
Paleocon wrote:I still say that it wouldn't take very long or very much for a modern military to deal with this kind of threat. A single AC130 would put a very quick end to a zombie army. A flight of B-52's with daisycutters could pretty much end half the zombie population.
Unless the zombies retain some innate human cunning (eg: know how to head for cover, avoid observation, attack only in coordinated fashion when numbers ensure victory) I see the problem being solved relatively quickly.
McChuck wrote:The problem would be solved quickly in our reality where we know about zombies already. In zombie fiction, the world always has to learn and seems to be slow on the uptake. Destroy the brain! Duh.
I think you're both wrong. In the Z-verse, they did not have George Romero movies? Even WWZ references the Zombie Handbook.
Our human scaffolding would break down, especially if there were no Black Ops Units expecting this very threat. Our real society could not even protect us against a flu pandemic, never mind the dead walking the earth.
But at least, look at the bright side, if a zombie apocalypse ever did come- unless you're extremely unlucky, you have possess more knowledge than 98% of Earth's population does about the subject. )
In many ways a zombie outbreak would be many times easier to deal with from a public health perspective than an outbreak of pandemic influenza.
1) victims are immediately symptomatic.
2) disease vector is obvious and observable.
3) unaffected population will automatically self-quarantine
4) disease vector requires direct person to person or extreme proximity contact
Influenza would be many times more difficult to handle.
For those of you interested in checking out World War Z, I stumbled onto something pretty cool. I was listening to the latest This Week In Tech podcast and they were plugging a website called Audible.com. If you go to www.audible.com/twit you can get a free audio book to try out which is what I did... So I signed up for it and chose World War Z for my free audio book and it is absolutely FANTASTIC to listen to. The cast is the thing that shocked me most... Here's the official blurb on it.
An all-star cast including Alan Alda, Mark Hamill, Jürgen Prochnow, Henry Rollins, John Turturro, Rob and Carl Reiner, and many others deliver their parts with such fervor and intensity that listeners cannot help but empathize with these characters. Max Brooks acts as the interviewer, providing an inquisitive but stagnant demeanor.
All in all, its definately a real treat to listen to.... almost like an NPR Radio "All Things Considered" piece from the future. Plus you get to hear Luke Skywalker cuss a bit.
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